New Updates on 12 April 2005

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Will there be any updates this time around for 98SE and are there any more
security issues that need to be addressed in 98SE? I know about the
annoyance of the one patch running seperately but I am sure Microsoft will
address that in the future as time allows because Microsoft primary work is
with trying to make XP SP 2 more secure which still amuses me because as
Chris Quirke, MVP has enlightened many of us that the NT (New Technology aka
Not There) cannot be made secure without a maintenance operating system and I
will go even further to say that XP SP 2 cannot be made secure without an
overhaul of the entire source code which hopefully Microsoft will release for
the masses with the release of Longhorn in 2007. Have a nice day and thanks
in advance for any information pertaining to the updates from Microsoft.
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    ">Will there be any updates this time around for 98SE and are there
    any more
    >security issues that need to be addressed in 98SE?"

    Microsoft says they have stopped generating modifications to Win98.

    >but I am sure Microsoft will
    >address that in the future as time allows because Microsoft primary work is
    >with trying to make XP SP 2 more secure

    TIme available has nothing to do with it. Microsoft has created
    corporate policies about the kinds of support they give to products
    that they sold earlier, and they follow these policies. The policies
    are mainly designed to limit the amount of effort that Microsoft
    personnel put into products that they sold earlier. In general,
    Microsoft personnel are much more interested in creating new products
    than in modifying products they no longer sell. They say the antitrust
    agreement between Sun and Microsoft makes it impossible for Microsoft
    to sell Win98 after Jun 2004.


    Bill Starbuck (MVP)
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    We'll only know for sure on the 12th.

    Microsoft Security Bulletin Advance Notification:
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security

    Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx


    Dan wrote:
    > Will there be any updates this time around for 98SE and are there any more
    > security issues that need to be addressed in 98SE? I know about the
    > annoyance of the one patch running seperately but I am sure Microsoft will
    > address that in the future as time allows because Microsoft primary work
    > is with trying to make XP SP 2 more secure which still amuses me because
    > as Chris Quirke, MVP has enlightened many of us that the NT (New
    > Technology aka Not There) cannot be made secure without a maintenance
    > operating system and I will go even further to say that XP SP 2 cannot be
    > made secure without an overhaul of the entire source code which hopefully
    > Microsoft will release for the masses with the release of Longhorn in
    > 2007. Have a nice day and thanks in advance for any information
    > pertaining to the updates from Microsoft.
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    Thanks Bill and Robear. I really do hope that IE 7 will be available for
    98SE as well but I know this is really unlikely but I can always hope and
    request Microsoft to release it for 98SE due to the fact that someone hacked
    my XP SP2 and Chris Cquirke, MVP's point was proven about the inherent
    weakness of the New Technology aka Not There source code in XP SP2.

    http://cquirke.mvps.org/whatmos.htm

    "PA Bear" wrote:

    > We'll only know for sure on the 12th.
    >
    > Microsoft Security Bulletin Advance Notification:
    > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx
    > --
    > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security
    >
    > Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
    >
    >
    > Dan wrote:
    > > Will there be any updates this time around for 98SE and are there any more
    > > security issues that need to be addressed in 98SE? I know about the
    > > annoyance of the one patch running seperately but I am sure Microsoft will
    > > address that in the future as time allows because Microsoft primary work
    > > is with trying to make XP SP 2 more secure which still amuses me because
    > > as Chris Quirke, MVP has enlightened many of us that the NT (New
    > > Technology aka Not There) cannot be made secure without a maintenance
    > > operating system and I will go even further to say that XP SP 2 cannot be
    > > made secure without an overhaul of the entire source code which hopefully
    > > Microsoft will release for the masses with the release of Longhorn in
    > > 2007. Have a nice day and thanks in advance for any information
    > > pertaining to the updates from Microsoft.
    >
    >
  4. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    Dan,

    "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:22FD2B0D-CD39-405E-9D0C-DE6352357F5B@microsoft.com...
    > Thanks Bill and Robear. I really do hope that IE 7 will be available for
    > 98SE as well but I know this is really unlikely but I can always hope and

    I really recommend you to check Internet Maxthon 1.2.
    I think this is (and will be) great alternative to IE7
    on Windows 98 platform.

    Support at forums http://forum.maxthon.com/
    is great.

    Maxthon tabbed browser is based on IE DLLs and has
    good AD/Popup/ActiveX filter.

    There are two (free) editions: Combo and Standard.
    I (use and) recommend "standard" since it does
    NOT include additional plugins and skins.

    It is translated into many languages

    Roman
  5. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    Thanks roman modic. I currently use and am happy with Mozilla Firefox. I
    mention this because of Gary S. Terhune's, <MVP> comments about the
    importance of all of Windows being kept secure and since Internet Explorer is
    an integral part of Windows as was told to us by Microsoft in the lawsuit
    against Microsoft by the Justice Department.

    "roman modic" wrote:

    > Dan,
    >
    > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:22FD2B0D-CD39-405E-9D0C-DE6352357F5B@microsoft.com...
    > > Thanks Bill and Robear. I really do hope that IE 7 will be available for
    > > 98SE as well but I know this is really unlikely but I can always hope and
    >
    > I really recommend you to check Internet Maxthon 1.2.
    > I think this is (and will be) great alternative to IE7
    > on Windows 98 platform.
    >
    > Support at forums http://forum.maxthon.com/
    > is great.
    >
    > Maxthon tabbed browser is based on IE DLLs and has
    > good AD/Popup/ActiveX filter.
    >
    > There are two (free) editions: Combo and Standard.
    > I (use and) recommend "standard" since it does
    > NOT include additional plugins and skins.
    >
    > It is translated into many languages
    >
    > Roman
    >
    >
    >
  6. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    Hello,

    "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:2BE79531-DECB-47AF-9DB7-0E4A443E1743@microsoft.com...
    > Thanks roman modic. I currently use and am happy with Mozilla Firefox. I
    > mention this because of Gary S. Terhune's, <MVP> comments about the
    > importance of all of Windows being kept secure and since Internet Explorer
    > is
    > an integral part of Windows as was told to us by Microsoft in the lawsuit
    > against Microsoft by the Justice Department.
    >
    > "roman modic" wrote:

    If MS will release IE7 for Windows 98 SE, I will be pleasantly surprised.
    If you (or everybody else) have power and influence to force MS to make
    such decision, that would be great.

    Roman Modic
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    Don't hold your breath.

    --
    Gary S. Terhune
    MS MVP Shell/User
    http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
    http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

    "roman modic" <modicr@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
    news:erfVBCBQFHA.4052@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

    > If MS will release IE7 for Windows 98 SE, I will be pleasantly
    surprised.
    > If you (or everybody else) have power and influence to force MS to
    make
    > such decision, that would be great.
    >
    > Roman Modic
    >
    >
    >
    >
  8. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    Exactly right, Gary but hopefully you, Chris Quirke and I can exact some
    small amount of influence on Microsoft. BTW, Microsoft did give me 5-7 hours
    of free technical support for 3 days from two people in Canada and three
    people in India. LOL, of course this was for XP PROFESSIONAL SP 2 that had
    been hacked into but the stupid dumb hackers fell into my trap which was to
    show Microsoft that you, I and Chris Quirke, MVP and the texts on Microsoft's
    history on the Not There aka New Technology code are right. BTW, I can email
    you information on my current status of testing for Longhorn if you like
    since you are an MVP you have certain rights that the general community
    cannot know. Have a great day and I still cannot wait for Chris Quirke, MVP
    to post again. Sincerely, Dan

    "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

    > Don't hold your breath.
    >
    > --
    > Gary S. Terhune
    > MS MVP Shell/User
    > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
    > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
    >
    > "roman modic" <modicr@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
    > news:erfVBCBQFHA.4052@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
    >
    > > If MS will release IE7 for Windows 98 SE, I will be pleasantly
    > surprised.
    > > If you (or everybody else) have power and influence to force MS to
    > make
    > > such decision, that would be great.
    > >
    > > Roman Modic
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
  9. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    roman modic wrote:
    > If MS will release IE7 for Windows 98 SE, I will be pleasantly surprised.

    Put away your nitroglycerine tablets: You will not be surprised at all.
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security

    Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
  10. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    > Put away your nitroglycerine tablets: You will not be surprised at all.

    :)
  11. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    LOL!!

    "PA Bear" wrote:

    > roman modic wrote:
    > > If MS will release IE7 for Windows 98 SE, I will be pleasantly surprised.
    >
    > Put away your nitroglycerine tablets: You will not be surprised at all.
    > --
    > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security
    >
    > Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
    >
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