Norton Missing Driver

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"irvingr5" <irvingr5@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> message, upon booting up, in DOS fashion warning me that NAV could not
> be loaded. I finally followed Symantec's instructions in deleting the
> NAV (using Add/Remove and removing the registry folder) and
> re-installing NAV. Now, everything is working fine and I have no
> problem, but I'm wondering what could have caused those problems?

There is another way of looking at it.
1. So far as you know, you first installed NAV
correctly and were running it correctly.
2. NAV malfunctioned on its own, not because
of anything you did.
3. Do you really trust software like this to protect
you from malware designed to harm your PC ?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

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> NAV was running well for almost a year. (Subscription expires in
> June.) If I can't trust NAV, who can I trust? I might also add that

I agree with you irving, and i dare any of the 'representatives' here
to tell Norton to their faces how much they dislike their product.
I too have been running Norton for about 8months, never had
a problem with a virus or otherwise. It checks every incoming
and outgoing piece of data regarding my comp'.
There was some scuttle-bug in this group a few weeks ago about
Norton failing in a certain area...... but then I realised it was just
a guy who posts here causing un-necessary alarm, especially as
I am still on the net and virus free.
If you paid your Norton subscription, then keep on using it; mine
runs out in about 4 months and i see no reason not to re-new it
unless i find a company who can offer the same security for less
money...... but that would take heaps of time just for me to trust
another companies blurb.
jane

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Just because you "paid good money" doesn't mean that the software isn't
bad. Norton's consumer-level products (as opposed to corporate-level
offerings) have long been problematic on Windows systems. It gets worse
when you realize that Windows 98 is a "legacy" OS, one for which many
companies have simply stopped providing development or support.

If you think Diskeeper caused the problem, which is a fair assumption,
then the answer is to stop using it. Personally, I haven't had good luck
with Norton apps on Windows systems since before the turn of the
millennium. NAV consists of a massive amount of overhead that simply
isn't necessary to get the job done. And Diskeeper, too, is snake oil.
You simply don't need or want that kind of activity when using Windows
normally. Much better solution is regular maintenance procedures
performed at decent intervals, after temporarily creating a safe
environment and cleaning out garbage. See the "Clean Boot" article in my
sig.

For myself, the answer to your "who can you trust?" question, at least
where it concerns AV, is "ETrust, from Computer Associates." See the
"Security" article in my sig.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"irvingr5" <irvingr5@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> NAV was running well for almost a year. (Subscription expires in
> June.) If I can't trust NAV, who can I trust? I might also add that
> Diskeeper 9 was running at the time. I kind of suspect that Diskeeper
> is the problem. I had a problem with this utility before because I
was
> also defragging without it. I found out the hard way that this is not
> compatible. I really think Diskeeper is the cause, but I don't know,
> and since I paid good money for it, I hesitate to remove it.
>

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I am currently using the free version of Avast A-V, and find it to be an excellent
product over the past year.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx

"Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
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> irvingr5 wrote:
> > NAV was running well for almost a year. (Subscription expires in
> > June.) If I can't trust NAV, who can I trust? I might also add that
> > Diskeeper 9 was running at the time. I kind of suspect that Diskeeper
> > is the problem. I had a problem with this utility before because I
> > was also defragging without it. I found out the hard way that this
> > is not compatible. I really think Diskeeper is the cause, but I
> > don't know, and since I paid good money for it, I hesitate to remove
> > it.
>
> Lot of passion on this thread, some of it seemingly out of proportion to the
> knowledge brought to bear on the subject. Not everyone's experience is the
> same, so I will refrain from "do this do that" and just relate my own. I use
> dial-up and had been having problems with the modem (a true hardware modem,
> not a winmodem) needing to reestablish the handshake with the ISP on perhaps
> half of my clicks - for www, mail, and newsgroups. So a connection that
> should have been initiated in three or four seconds on a modern computer was
> routinely taking forty or fifty. Because Norton quit supporting NAV03, I
> switched to Avast, one of the better regarded "small footprint"
> installations, and the difference, totally unanticipated, was like night and
> day. Now I have NO handshake problems whatever. Dial-up will never be a
> particularly satisfying experience, but at least now what potential it
> offers I can take advantage of. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you
> really have an objective handle on the costs AND benefits of removing Norton
> as regards your own personal situation.
>
>

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Thanks Glen and Roger! Do you consider the paid or free version of AVG to be
good anymore?

"glee" wrote:

> I am currently using the free version of Avast A-V, and find it to be an excellent
> product over the past year.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
>
> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
> news:%23QQMQp9PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > irvingr5 wrote:
> > > NAV was running well for almost a year. (Subscription expires in
> > > June.) If I can't trust NAV, who can I trust? I might also add that
> > > Diskeeper 9 was running at the time. I kind of suspect that Diskeeper
> > > is the problem. I had a problem with this utility before because I
> > > was also defragging without it. I found out the hard way that this
> > > is not compatible. I really think Diskeeper is the cause, but I
> > > don't know, and since I paid good money for it, I hesitate to remove
> > > it.
> >
> > Lot of passion on this thread, some of it seemingly out of proportion to the
> > knowledge brought to bear on the subject. Not everyone's experience is the
> > same, so I will refrain from "do this do that" and just relate my own. I use
> > dial-up and had been having problems with the modem (a true hardware modem,
> > not a winmodem) needing to reestablish the handshake with the ISP on perhaps
> > half of my clicks - for www, mail, and newsgroups. So a connection that
> > should have been initiated in three or four seconds on a modern computer was
> > routinely taking forty or fifty. Because Norton quit supporting NAV03, I
> > switched to Avast, one of the better regarded "small footprint"
> > installations, and the difference, totally unanticipated, was like night and
> > day. Now I have NO handshake problems whatever. Dial-up will never be a
> > particularly satisfying experience, but at least now what potential it
> > offers I can take advantage of. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you
> > really have an objective handle on the costs AND benefits of removing Norton
> > as regards your own personal situation.
> >
> >
>
>

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Thanks!

"glee" wrote:

> Yes, but I find it currently inferior to Avast...YMMV.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8C7A2CE1-FABF-42F5-8695-8C36FA38277B@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Glen and Roger! Do you consider the paid or free version of AVG to be
> > good anymore?
> >
> > "glee" wrote:
> >
> > > I am currently using the free version of Avast A-V, and find it to be an
> excellent
> > > product over the past year.
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/communiti [...] fault.mspx
> > >
> > > "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
> > > news:%23QQMQp9PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > irvingr5 wrote:
> > > > > NAV was running well for almost a year. (Subscription expires in
> > > > > June.) If I can't trust NAV, who can I trust? I might also add that
> > > > > Diskeeper 9 was running at the time. I kind of suspect that Diskeeper
> > > > > is the problem. I had a problem with this utility before because I
> > > > > was also defragging without it. I found out the hard way that this
> > > > > is not compatible. I really think Diskeeper is the cause, but I
> > > > > don't know, and since I paid good money for it, I hesitate to remove
> > > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Lot of passion on this thread, some of it seemingly out of proportion to the
> > > > knowledge brought to bear on the subject. Not everyone's experience is the
> > > > same, so I will refrain from "do this do that" and just relate my own. I use
> > > > dial-up and had been having problems with the modem (a true hardware modem,
> > > > not a winmodem) needing to reestablish the handshake with the ISP on perhaps
> > > > half of my clicks - for www, mail, and newsgroups. So a connection that
> > > > should have been initiated in three or four seconds on a modern computer was
> > > > routinely taking forty or fifty. Because Norton quit supporting NAV03, I
> > > > switched to Avast, one of the better regarded "small footprint"
> > > > installations, and the difference, totally unanticipated, was like night and
> > > > day. Now I have NO handshake problems whatever. Dial-up will never be a
> > > > particularly satisfying experience, but at least now what potential it
> > > > offers I can take advantage of. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you
> > > > really have an objective handle on the costs AND benefits of removing Norton
> > > > as regards your own personal situation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>