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3.2/3.4GHz vs AMD Athlon 64 3500+

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April 25, 2006 2:13:16 AM

well my friend wants to buy a new computer, theres these 3 systems that basically hav the same features, the only big difference are the CPUs, so anyone wana tell me which ones better?

Pentium 4 640 3.2GHz/650 3.4GHz vs. AMD Athlon 64 3500+

More about : 4ghz amd athlon 3500

April 25, 2006 2:22:09 AM

What will this computer be used for ?

What is the complete configuration of each system, specifically the motherboard, GPU and memory ?
April 25, 2006 2:31:31 AM

well the computer will be gaming at the most i assume and work

heres the other parts:
Gigabyte 8N-SLI Mainboard
200GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Disk Drive
1024MB DDR Ram
Pioneer 16 X Dual Layer DVDRW
256MB Nvidia 6600 PCIe VGA Card
500 Watt ATX Tower Case

(its a budget pc at $999 so yer :p )
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April 25, 2006 2:39:51 AM

Well You Can Pretty Much Dump a

Pentium 4 640(Prescott) 3.2Ghz or 650(Prescott) Out of this Race, its one of the Worst Pentium 4 Cores avalible you can possibly get Because of Overheating problems and some Voltage issues people and Sp2 issues on BIOS updates. Ask any one else about Prescott Cores they are absolutely Worthless to get. About as useful as Heaters Would'nt you say Wusy? or RichPLS or even Dvdpiddy??
April 25, 2006 2:42:10 AM

That covers the 640 and 650, what about the motherboard on the A64 3500+ system ?

That 6600 is somewhat weak, even for a 1000$ 'rig and it is odd to see an SLI motherboard in such a system.

I guess that those systmes will be bought pre-assembled, have you considered the possibility of building them yourself to save money and/or get better hardware for the same price ?
April 25, 2006 2:45:52 AM

I'd upgrade the Vid card and try to go for 2 gb of RAM if possible. More and
more games are starting to come out that need more than 1gb.
April 25, 2006 2:49:47 AM

Tell him to get what ever is cheapest :)  all 3 sound realy nice ! I let the sticker get my vote :p  hmm also good to take into consideration what the comp comes with like the CPU can be super fast but if the mobo sucks ass its gonna be a dog :( 
April 25, 2006 3:00:08 AM

the motherboard for the amd is a K8N-SLI, well they dont do custom builds but at $999 in AUSTRALIA is pretty cheap im gona hav to say,
this is like the cheapest in Victoria (the state we live in) i could find
unless u ppl got som other shops IN VICTORIA that u could give me :D 
April 25, 2006 3:02:16 AM

what if you get a 3000+ and something like a 7600GS/GT?
April 25, 2006 3:08:47 AM

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well the computer will be gaming at the most i assume and work

heres the other parts:
Gigabyte 8N-SLI Mainboard
200GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Disk Drive
1024MB DDR Ram
Pioneer 16 X Dual Layer DVDRW
256MB Nvidia 6600 PCIe VGA Card
500 Watt ATX Tower Case

(its a budget pc at $999 so yer :p )

The important part in a gaming computer is the video card. That card you have picked really sucks. For $999 you can get a much better gaming computer than that. Get an AMD 64 3200+ and a 7600GT 256MB (or similar card).
April 25, 2006 3:13:02 AM

well its a prebuilt system, wat can i do lol, how abt u gimme a site that sells cheaper+better parts
April 25, 2006 3:49:14 AM

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Pentium 4 640 3.2GHz/650 3.4GHz vs. AMD Athlon 64 3500+


DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER 90nm CPUs anymore, ESPECIALLY if they are Prescotts and they cost about 10 bucks more.

Why are you getting an SLI motherboard??
April 25, 2006 3:51:14 AM

As I mentionned it before, building your own computer is the best way to save money, you get absolute control over the hardware that goes inside your computer and may gain a few insights which could prove to be usefull down the road.
April 25, 2006 3:54:03 AM

i didnt choose the SLI motherboard, the system is prebuilt, and i chose this system bcoz it would b great for future upgrade, the 8n-sli motherboard can easily b upgraded to dual core and dual vga cards
April 25, 2006 4:28:24 AM

Quote:
Well You Can Pretty Much Dump a

Pentium 4 640(Prescott) 3.2Ghz or 650(Prescott) Out of this Race, its one of the Worst Pentium 4 Cores avalible you can possibly get Because of Overheating problems and some Voltage issues people and Sp2 issues on BIOS updates. Ask any one else about Prescott Cores they are absolutely Worthless to get. About as useful as Heaters Would'nt you say Wusy? or RichPLS or even Dvdpiddy??


P4 540/640 Prescott is the WORST P4 to get. I'm staring at mine right now; it's sitting on the desk being jealous of my A64. The P4 works but after five minutes, it gets to 70C+ and shuts down. The crappy HP proprietary board is fried, as well.

Prescotts are very good for making tea. You take off the HS/F, put some AS5 on the bottom of your teacup, fill it with water, boot the system, wait a couple minutes, and voila! A Prescott is an efficient electric stove!

Right now, I think I'll kill the chip by taking it outside, and running it w/o a cooler. I'll make a video. I can't wait :) .
April 25, 2006 4:29:12 AM

Just build your own.
April 25, 2006 5:27:09 AM

Pentium 4 640 3.2GHz/650 3.4GHz vs. AMD Athlon 64 3500+

AMD Athlon is way better than Pentium 3.2 Ghz.
April 25, 2006 6:28:08 AM

trust me, in australia or at least victoria where i live, custom builds with those same parts or worse are way more than $999
April 25, 2006 6:43:43 AM

Those ppl a re bullsh***g you
First of all i have p4 650 and temp in windows is 37-42 degrees, only first prescott on sck478 was overhitting, second use cpu charts on toms hardware and see that p4 650 is equal to athlon 3500+, in some cases better for 1,5%, so pick any of these to proc.
April 25, 2006 7:01:33 AM

Wow, you mean you can get a 3700 system, with an Asus mobo, for the same price as a 3.2 ghz Intel system?
For a gamer, that's like saying you can get a steak at the same price as a burger, but the steak is one of those japanese jobs, that are hand feed, and drank too much beer, while that burger is a genuine big mac.
April 25, 2006 7:44:41 AM

no idea wth u on abt dude
April 25, 2006 1:55:51 PM

Screw you; Big Macs kick ass! I eat them 'Nuff said.
April 25, 2006 3:26:44 PM

Let's get away from Macca's since I haven't eaten it for over 5 years now.

For purely gaming just about any AMD cpu will own any Intel cpu worth as much. For the OP, whoever is putting that system together is making some money. You can get your parts cheaper - and you can also DIY if you read a bit and use common sense.

Try www.staticice.com.au or the less reliable but quicker-to-use au.pricespy.biz

Or an Australian site like www.ocau.com for people who are from the same landmass as yourself? Plus, the standard of posting is higher, almost NO useless "intel is better than amd" fanboy threads, and no MMM et al with nothing better to do than to hijack threads with flame and counter-flame at any perceived slight aimed their way. (Yes, this *IS* a red rag to a bull... :p  )

Any of 640/650/3700+ will do fine since the 6600 non-GT is underpowered for games (256mb on a 6600 core is a waste of RAM chips and at least 50 of your bucks). I would get a P-D 805, since they're cheaper ($185 at MSY atm) and will easily OC to 3.2GHz - and you get TWO cpu's too!. Plus you can put the $100 you save towards a better video card.

And since here in Melbourne it's already bloody cold, the sooner you get your Prescott (or two in a Smithfield 8xx) the better. :oops:  <- that's you heating up
!