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Anonymous
April 11, 2005 4:52:19 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with
minimal help from Dell

A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone
that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It
is my understanding that it is good to do every once in a
while is that correct?

Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95
reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know
abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what
do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that was
for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a 98
upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way?
(because I do need to do 95 first, right)

Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do
afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media
players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the
things that MUST be done after a reinstall.

thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails
me instructions would be greatly appreciated

Eric
Anonymous
April 11, 2005 9:07:55 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Badour once wrote...
RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you
can install it to a blank hard drive; however, when installing to a
blank drive, install will ask to see the qualifying system (i.e., W95)
disk(s).


You want to do a FRESH Install? Are you pure Windows or OEM, such as
Compaq? If you are OEM, then you can get back to factory condition by
using their recovery CD, such as QuickRestore, which may contain
proprietary drivers and add-ons. Otherwise...

http://www.hexff.com/index.html How to Clean Install
This first has it all, but..
(a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, &
(b) You may rather have multiple partitions, &
(c) Attend it's warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral drivers
available to install afterwards. Here...
http://www.pchelpandconsulting.com/links/windows.html WinDrvExpert
http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free version
Those two supposedly back up all currently installed drivers, such that
they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen a favorable
report.

http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html Badour has one
http://aumha.org/win4/a/clean.htm Aumha has one
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=250928 How to Reinstall Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193902
How to Reinstall Windows into a new folder

"Setup.txt", located in the same folder as "Setup.exe", either on CD or
hard drive. This instructs how to run it from a folder on the hard
drive, but "hexff" says it better.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;129971&Product=w98
"SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Me Setup

Get a Startup Diskette from
http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the Startup
Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will say which
letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter higher than
normal.)

Here is what I know of those Installation CD's. The full list of
capabilities of each type of CD is as follows, says Harper. Each
requires a valid Product key. "Proof" means it must see you had a prior
version. So, if it isn't sitting there, expect to insert a floppy or
earlier CD.

FULL VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of existing
OS. Does not ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version.

UPGRADE VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of
existing OS. Will ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version if
one is not installed.

WIN98 SE UPDATES: Will only install if Windows 98 is present on the hard
drive. Cannot be used for a clean install at all.

OEM VERSION: Only installs on a clean, fresh-formatted hard drive. May
be customized to include or omit components that would be found/not
found on a retail CD.

Be sure of your ProductKey...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
ProductKey "12345-12345-12345-12345-12345"

(1) "START, Run, RegEdit"
(2) Click plus signs beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE", & ending with
"Windows".
(3) Click "CurrentVersion" in the left pane under "Windows".
(4) Look in right pane for ProductKey.

That is the one that was used to install your current Windows. Jot it
down, as it may work if different from the one on your Windows 98 Manual
or CD case.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"eric0668" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:009e01c53ecf$f874e550$a601280a@phx.gbl...
| I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with
| minimal help from Dell
|
| A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone
| that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It
| is my understanding that it is good to do every once in a
| while is that correct?
|
| Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95
| reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know
| abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what
| do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that was
| for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a 98
| upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way?
| (because I do need to do 95 first, right)
|
| Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do
| afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media
| players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the
| things that MUST be done after a reinstall.
|
| thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails
| me instructions would be greatly appreciated
|
| Eric
Anonymous
April 11, 2005 9:07:56 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

WOW. Very confusing.

How do I know if I have pure windows OR OEM. Whats the
difference. No it is not Compaq. It is Gateway, and I
have reinstall 98 and 95 disks, but not a system restore
disk.

I don't mean to ask you to baby me or tell me how to read
it, but thats exactly what I am going to do.

I am a bit overwhelmed by what you wrote. seems like a
lot to do. How would you break it down

Thank you oh so much
Eric
>-----Original Message-----
>Badour once wrote...
>RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade
W95/98 to SE or you
>can install it to a blank hard drive; however, when
installing to a
>blank drive, install will ask to see the qualifying
system (i.e., W95)
>disk(s).
>
>
>You want to do a FRESH Install? Are you pure Windows or
OEM, such as
>Compaq? If you are OEM, then you can get back to factory
condition by
>using their recovery CD, such as QuickRestore, which may
contain
>proprietary drivers and add-ons. Otherwise...
>
>http://www.hexff.com/index.html How to Clean Install
>This first has it all, but..
>(a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, &
>(b) You may rather have multiple partitions, &
>(c) Attend it's warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral
drivers
>available to install afterwards. Here...
>http://www.pchelpandconsulting.com/links/windows.html
WinDrvExpert
>http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free
version
>Those two supposedly back up all currently installed
drivers, such that
>they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen
a favorable
>report.
>
>http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html
Badour has one
>http://aumha.org/win4/a/clean.htm Aumha has one
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=250928 How to
Reinstall Windows
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193902
>How to Reinstall Windows into a new folder
>
>"Setup.txt", located in the same folder as "Setup.exe",
either on CD or
>hard drive. This instructs how to run it from a folder
on the hard
>drive, but "hexff" says it better.
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;129971&Product=w98
>"SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and
Windows Me Setup
>
>Get a Startup Diskette from
>http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one
from "Control
>Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
Startup
>Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will
say which
>letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
higher than
>normal.)
>
>Here is what I know of those Installation CD's. The full
list of
>capabilities of each type of CD is as follows, says
Harper. Each
>requires a valid Product key. "Proof" means it must see
you had a prior
>version. So, if it isn't sitting there, expect to insert
a floppy or
>earlier CD.
>
>FULL VERSION: Will perform either clean install or
upgrade of existing
>OS. Does not ask for proof of ownership of an earlier
version.
>
>UPGRADE VERSION: Will perform either clean install or
upgrade of
>existing OS. Will ask for proof of ownership of an
earlier version if
>one is not installed.
>
>WIN98 SE UPDATES: Will only install if Windows 98 is
present on the hard
>drive. Cannot be used for a clean install at all.
>
>OEM VERSION: Only installs on a clean, fresh-formatted
hard drive. May
>be customized to include or omit components that would
be found/not
>found on a retail CD.
>
>Be sure of your ProductKey...
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVers
ion
>ProductKey "12345-12345-12345-12345-12345"
>
>(1) "START, Run, RegEdit"
>(2) Click plus signs beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE",
& ending with
>"Windows".
>(3) Click "CurrentVersion" in the left pane
under "Windows".
>(4) Look in right pane for ProductKey.
>
>That is the one that was used to install your current
Windows. Jot it
>down, as it may work if different from the one on your
Windows 98 Manual
>or CD case.
>
>
>--
>Thanks or Good Luck,
>There may be humor in this post, and,
>Naturally, you will not sue,
>should things get worse after this,
>PCR
>pcrrcp@netzero.net
>"eric0668" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message
>news:009e01c53ecf$f874e550$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>| I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with
>| minimal help from Dell
>|
>| A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone
>| that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It
>| is my understanding that it is good to do every once
in a
>| while is that correct?
>|
>| Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95
>| reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know
>| abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what
>| do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that
was
>| for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a
98
>| upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way?
>| (because I do need to do 95 first, right)
>|
>| Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do
>| afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media
>| players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the
>| things that MUST be done after a reinstall.
>|
>| thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails
>| me instructions would be greatly appreciated
>|
>| Eric
>
>
>.
>
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Anonymous
April 11, 2005 11:36:18 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

If your upgrade is from MS, you can just install 98 directly from the
upgrade. It will ask for your previous version disk just to verify that you
had it. It will be cleaner that way.
You will have to install a whole bunch of upgrades. First thing you will
need will be internet connectivity. If the PC has a network card, it will
need drivers probably. Then you'll need a browser. I suggest Mozilla
Firefox. The download is only 5Mb compared to IE6 at 18+ Meg! If you can
download it on another machine and transfer it, you won't have to mess with
IE3 which loaded on W98.

"eric0668" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:009e01c53ecf$f874e550$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with
> minimal help from Dell
>
> A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone
> that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It
> is my understanding that it is good to do every once in a
> while is that correct?
>
> Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95
> reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know
> abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what
> do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that was
> for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a 98
> upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way?
> (because I do need to do 95 first, right)
>
> Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do
> afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media
> players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the
> things that MUST be done after a reinstall.
>
> thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails
> me instructions would be greatly appreciated
>
> Eric
Anonymous
April 12, 2005 8:11:54 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

As Richards said, post precisely what is on your label. He will compare
it to what Richards wrote (in my earlier quote) or to the full panoply
of what Badour wrote (below). After that, read through some of the URLs
I posted, & come back with a plan & specific questions. If you have a
functioning system, it could be wise to make a full system backup of it
first, as one never knows. Would you like my list of full system backup
apps?

RETAIL FULL INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you
can install it to a blank hard drive.

RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade W95/98 to SE or you
can install it to a blank hard drive; however, when installing to a
blank drive, install will ask to see the qualifying system (i.e., W95)
disk(s).

OEM FULL INSTALL. This SE CD is designed to be installed to a blank
hard drive; however, there is a possibility that you can trick it into
upgrading. For info, go to:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/upgrade.html Be aware that if you
buy an OEM disk, it might be customized for installation on a particular
computer; however, this will probably be primarily with a used disk.

UPDATE CD: This CD will only update a functioning copy of W98 to W98SE.
When MS sold them, they were $20 and came with a ProductKey. Some
venders were selling them and advising customers to use the W98
ProductKey which may or may not work--don't get stung.

RECOVERY CD: Some companies will brand an OEM CD and call it a recovery
CD. You should avoid these unless it is the exact recovery CD you are
looking for. Many recovery CDs will only install on the equipment they
were intended for.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"eric0668" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:01a501c53eed$93eab150$a601280a@phx.gbl...
| WOW. Very confusing.
|
| How do I know if I have pure windows OR OEM. Whats the
| difference. No it is not Compaq. It is Gateway, and I
| have reinstall 98 and 95 disks, but not a system restore
| disk.
|
| I don't mean to ask you to baby me or tell me how to read
| it, but thats exactly what I am going to do.
|
| I am a bit overwhelmed by what you wrote. seems like a
| lot to do. How would you break it down
|
| Thank you oh so much
| Eric
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Badour once wrote...
| >RETAIL UPGRADE INSTALL: This CD will either upgrade
| W95/98 to SE or you
| >can install it to a blank hard drive; however, when
| installing to a
| >blank drive, install will ask to see the qualifying
| system (i.e., W95)
| >disk(s).
| >
| >
| >You want to do a FRESH Install? Are you pure Windows or
| OEM, such as
| >Compaq? If you are OEM, then you can get back to factory
| condition by
| >using their recovery CD, such as QuickRestore, which may
| contain
| >proprietary drivers and add-ons. Otherwise...
| >
| >http://www.hexff.com/index.html How to Clean Install
| >This first has it all, but..
| >(a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, &
| >(b) You may rather have multiple partitions, &
| >(c) Attend it's warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral
| drivers
| >available to install afterwards. Here...
| >http://www.pchelpandconsulting.com/links/windows.html
| WinDrvExpert
| >http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free
| version
| >Those two supposedly back up all currently installed
| drivers, such that
| >they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen
| a favorable
| >report.
| >
| >http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html
| Badour has one
| >http://aumha.org/win4/a/clean.htm Aumha has one
| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=250928 How to
| Reinstall Windows
| >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193902
| >How to Reinstall Windows into a new folder
| >
| >"Setup.txt", located in the same folder as "Setup.exe",
| either on CD or
| >hard drive. This instructs how to run it from a folder
| on the hard
| >drive, but "hexff" says it better.
| >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
| us;129971&Product=w98
| >"SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and
| Windows Me Setup
| >
| >Get a Startup Diskette from
| >http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one
| from "Control
| >Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the
| Startup
| >Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will
| say which
| >letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter
| higher than
| >normal.)
| >
| >Here is what I know of those Installation CD's. The full
| list of
| >capabilities of each type of CD is as follows, says
| Harper. Each
| >requires a valid Product key. "Proof" means it must see
| you had a prior
| >version. So, if it isn't sitting there, expect to insert
| a floppy or
| >earlier CD.
| >
| >FULL VERSION: Will perform either clean install or
| upgrade of existing
| >OS. Does not ask for proof of ownership of an earlier
| version.
| >
| >UPGRADE VERSION: Will perform either clean install or
| upgrade of
| >existing OS. Will ask for proof of ownership of an
| earlier version if
| >one is not installed.
| >
| >WIN98 SE UPDATES: Will only install if Windows 98 is
| present on the hard
| >drive. Cannot be used for a clean install at all.
| >
| >OEM VERSION: Only installs on a clean, fresh-formatted
| hard drive. May
| >be customized to include or omit components that would
| be found/not
| >found on a retail CD.
| >
| >Be sure of your ProductKey...
| >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVers
| ion
| >ProductKey "12345-12345-12345-12345-12345"
| >
| >(1) "START, Run, RegEdit"
| >(2) Click plus signs beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE",
| & ending with
| >"Windows".
| >(3) Click "CurrentVersion" in the left pane
| under "Windows".
| >(4) Look in right pane for ProductKey.
| >
| >That is the one that was used to install your current
| Windows. Jot it
| >down, as it may work if different from the one on your
| Windows 98 Manual
| >or CD case.
| >
| >
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
| >pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >"eric0668" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
| in message
| >news:009e01c53ecf$f874e550$a601280a@phx.gbl...
| >| I have XP and have reinstalled the OS a few times. with
| >| minimal help from Dell
| >|
| >| A friend of mine just took over a computer from someone
| >| that has never had the OS reinstalled. 6 years old. It
| >| is my understanding that it is good to do every once
| in a
| >| while is that correct?
| >|
| >| Anyway, how do I do it? She has the original 95
| >| reinstall disk it came with, but I don't really know
| >| abouut getting to dos, the boot mode thing, etc... what
| >| do I do. Gateway emailed me instructioins, but that
| was
| >| for 98. they failed to remember that I have 95 with a
| 98
| >| upgrade. Would I reinstall 98 and 95 the same way?
| >| (because I do need to do 95 first, right)
| >|
| >| Also, with XP, there were a few things I needed to do
| >| afterward, like install things like Java, Adobe, Media
| >| players, codec, WINDOWS UPDATES. How do I know the
| >| things that MUST be done after a reinstall.
| >|
| >| thank you so much. Anyone that answers this or emails
| >| me instructions would be greatly appreciated
| >|
| >| Eric
| >
| >
| >.
| >
Anonymous
April 12, 2005 9:35:20 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

There's no such thing as "reinstall 98 and 95 disks", unless perhaps they
are disk that Gateway prepared specially for that machine.. What exactly do
the CDs say on the label?
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"eric0668" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:01a501c53eed$93eab150$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> WOW. Very confusing.
>
> How do I know if I have pure windows OR OEM. Whats the
> difference. No it is not Compaq. It is Gateway, and I
> have reinstall 98 and 95 disks, but not a system restore
> disk.
>
> I don't mean to ask you to baby me or tell me how to read
> it, but thats exactly what I am going to do.
>
> I am a bit overwhelmed by what you wrote. seems like a
> lot to do. How would you break it down
>
> Thank you oh so much
> Eric
!