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April 18, 2005 1:24:15 PM

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I wish to clean install Win 98SE on my C drive, replacing an earlier
installation that has become crowded out with files carried forward
from an earlier installation over Win95 and ancient software and
hardware installations. The C drive is a partition of an 80Gb disk
partioned into C,E,F and G. The D drive is a 30 Gb disk with Win
2000pro installed.

What is the best way to format C, the f-disk routine appears full of
pitfalls for the unwary?

Once C is formatted will I have to install 98SE (full OEM version) via
a floppy to make sure that the Win 2000 does not boot up?

If you need more info, please comment.

TIA jefft
Anonymous
April 18, 2005 8:08:43 PM

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jefft38@yahoo.co.uk (jeffT) wrote:

>What is the best way to format C, the f-disk routine appears full of
>pitfalls for the unwary?

FDISK doesn't format, it creates and destroys partitions. Use the
format command.

>Once C is formatted will I have to install 98SE (full OEM version) via
>a floppy to make sure that the Win 2000 does not boot up?

Once you've formatted C:, everything that was on it is now gone,
including whatever operating system was there before. You won't be
able to boot from your hard disk.

So, before you start, go to www.bootdisk.com and get a bootdisk for
Win98SE that supports the CD-ROM drive. Boot from it before you wipe
out C, to make sure that you can boot from the disk and use the CD in
that session.

Now..boot from the floppy, and use the format command on it to format
C:. (This assumes that C is in FAT32 format already, if it's NTFS
you'll have to use FDISK, also on the floppy, to destroy it and create
a new FAT32 partition). Then put the Win98SE disk in the CD drive and
install from there.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
Anonymous
April 19, 2005 11:07:51 AM

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If you are currently using the NT (2K) boot loader to choose which
OS to boot, you will also need to repair the 2k installation. To make
it easier, copy these files off the current C:\ to a floppy

BOOTSECT.DOS
BOOT.INI
NTDETECT.COM
NTLDR

After the reinstall of 98, copy them back to the root of C:. Boot to
the 2k install CD, go into the recovery console and run the fixboot
command.

Note that bootsect.dos is a copy of the old win 9x boot sector. If you
are going to be using a different file system (FAT vs. FAT32), changing
partition size, or formatting with a different cluster size, you will
have to create a new bootsect.dos after the 9x install.

Repair XP after a 98/ME install
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

Description of the Windows 2000 Recovery Console
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q229716




"jeffT" <jefft38@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:3ea6ba8.0504180824.7a318147@posting.google.com...
>I wish to clean install Win 98SE on my C drive, replacing an earlier
> installation that has become crowded out with files carried forward
> from an earlier installation over Win95 and ancient software and
> hardware installations. The C drive is a partition of an 80Gb disk
> partioned into C,E,F and G. The D drive is a 30 Gb disk with Win
> 2000pro installed.
>
> What is the best way to format C, the f-disk routine appears full of
> pitfalls for the unwary?
>
> Once C is formatted will I have to install 98SE (full OEM version) via
> a floppy to make sure that the Win 2000 does not boot up?
>
> If you need more info, please comment.
>
> TIA jefft
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Anonymous
April 19, 2005 11:48:08 AM

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Make sure you have your product key before wiping the C drive - you'll need
it to re-install Windows.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"jeffT" <jefft38@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ea6ba8.0504180824.7a318147@posting.google.com...
>I wish to clean install Win 98SE on my C drive, replacing an earlier
> installation that has become crowded out with files carried forward
> from an earlier installation over Win95 and ancient software and
> hardware installations. The C drive is a partition of an 80Gb disk
> partioned into C,E,F and G. The D drive is a 30 Gb disk with Win
> 2000pro installed.
>
> What is the best way to format C, the f-disk routine appears full of
> pitfalls for the unwary?
>
> Once C is formatted will I have to install 98SE (full OEM version) via
> a floppy to make sure that the Win 2000 does not boot up?
>
> If you need more info, please comment.
>
> TIA jefft
April 21, 2005 10:39:56 AM

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"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message news:<ufUfGANRFHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>...
> If you are currently using the NT (2K) boot loader to choose which
> OS to boot, you will also need to repair the 2k installation. To make
> it easier, copy these files off the current C:\ to a floppy
>
> BOOTSECT.DOS
> BOOT.INI
> NTDETECT.COM
> NTLDR
>
> After the reinstall of 98, copy them back to the root of C:. Boot to
> the 2k install CD, go into the recovery console and run the fixboot
> command.
>
> Note that bootsect.dos is a copy of the old win 9x boot sector. If you
> are going to be using a different file system (FAT vs. FAT32), changing
> partition size, or formatting with a different cluster size, you will
> have to create a new bootsect.dos after the 9x install.
>

I guess I should have waited for this message before doing the 98SE
clean install. That did work - but I no longer have the initial screen
that gives me the dual boot option (the NT boot loader?)so I have no
access to Win2000 that is sitting on my second drive.
I tried to reinstall 2000 over the previous installation in the hope
of recovering the dual boot option - but I didn't get the option of
installing on the second drive D, only replacing 98SE on C.
Can I access 2000 and recover dual booting ?? I won't rush at it
this time. JeffT
April 21, 2005 11:22:20 AM

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To make it easier, copy these files off the current C:\ to a floppy
>
> BOOTSECT.DOS
> BOOT.INI
> NTDETECT.COM
> NTLDR
>
> XXXXXX

I discover that I have two of the files required, NTDETECT.COM and
NTLDR on ServicePackFiles\1386 in my WINNT folder on drive D - but no
sign of the BOOT files. I had upgraded the Win2000 to SP4.
Does this help ?? JeffT
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 1:44:30 PM

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"jeffT" <jefft38@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3ea6ba8.0504210539.7c058fd7@posting.google.com...
>
> I guess I should have waited for this message before doing the 98SE
> clean install. That did work - but I no longer have the initial screen
> that gives me the dual boot option (the NT boot loader?)so I have no
> access to Win2000 that is sitting on my second drive.
> I tried to reinstall 2000 over the previous installation in the hope
> of recovering the dual boot option - but I didn't get the option of
> installing on the second drive D, only replacing 98SE on C.
> Can I access 2000 and recover dual booting ?? I won't rush at it
> this time. JeffT

http://www.freepctech.com/pc/001/dual_boot_guide.shtml

See

7. Repair your Windows NT boot files.
Anonymous
April 21, 2005 8:54:49 PM

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"jeffT" <jefft38@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:3ea6ba8.0504210622.5ade976f@posting.google.com...
> To make it easier, copy these files off the current C:\ to a floppy
>>
>> BOOTSECT.DOS
>> BOOT.INI
>> NTDETECT.COM
>> NTLDR
>>

> I discover that I have two of the files required, NTDETECT.COM and
> NTLDR on ServicePackFiles\1386 in my WINNT folder on drive D - but no
> sign of the BOOT files. I had upgraded the Win2000 to SP4.

Make sure hidden files are being shown in explorer's options? Doug
Knox's method should get you back, though the steps to get to the 2k
recovery console might be slightly different. Make sure you do the
"debug thing" on Doug's site exactly as printed.

Repair XP after a 98/ME install
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

Description of the Windows 2000 Recovery Console
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q229716


> Does this help ??

Don't worry too much. 2K is still there.. you just have to find it..
April 28, 2005 6:16:40 PM

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"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message >
> Make sure hidden files are being shown in explorer's options? Doug
> Knox's method should get you back, though the steps to get to the 2k
> recovery console might be slightly different. Make sure you do the
> "debug thing" on Doug's site exactly as printed.
>
> Repair XP after a 98/ME install
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm
>
> Description of the Windows 2000 Recovery Console
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q229716
>
>
> > Does this help ??
>
> Don't worry too much. 2K is still there.. you just have to find it..

Thanks for all your help Bill; Doug Knox' method depended on XP(or
2000) being on C, whereas my system had 98 on C - so I copied the
bootsec.dos and boot.ini to the root of C as advised and repaired the
boot file with the 2000 recovery console.
When I rebooted, there was a request for yet another file that I
couldn't trace, so I took the easy way out.
I reformatted D, after moving possibly useful files to another disk,
then reinstalled 2000 and of course the system is once again dual
boot.
I first installed 2000 only a few weeks ago - so I haven't lost much
(apart from a little pride) and I will soon have the rest of my
hardware and software
up and running.
Thanks again. JeffT
Anonymous
April 29, 2005 1:53:50 AM

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"jeffT" <jefft38@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:3ea6ba8.0504281316.30ccd4f@posting.google.com...
> "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message >
>> Make sure hidden files are being shown in explorer's options? Doug
>> Knox's method should get you back, though the steps to get to the 2k
>> recovery console might be slightly different. Make sure you do the
>> "debug thing" on Doug's site exactly as printed.
>>
>> Repair XP after a 98/ME install
>> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm
>>
>> Description of the Windows 2000 Recovery Console
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q229716
>>


> Thanks for all your help Bill; Doug Knox' method depended on XP(or
> 2000) being on C, whereas my system had 98 on C - so I copied the
> bootsec.dos and boot.ini to the root of C as advised and repaired the
> boot file with the 2000 recovery console.

Creating bootsect.dos using Doug's method should still work, regardless
of what drive letter belongs to NT.


> When I rebooted, there was a request for yet another file that I
> couldn't trace, so I took the easy way out.

Do you recall the name?

> I reformatted D, after moving possibly useful files to another disk,
> then reinstalled 2000 and of course the system is once again dual
> boot.
> I first installed 2000 only a few weeks ago - so I haven't lost much
> (apart from a little pride) and I will soon have the rest of my
> hardware and software
> up and running.

Ok. Well, glad you're up and running again


> Thanks again. JeffT

Yep. Thanks for coming back and letting me know..
!