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April 25, 2006 8:36:41 PM

hay guys i currantly have a pretty whack new comp a Athlon300064 939,1gig ddr400,250gig ide 6600gt 256mb ect.
i was going to upgrade to a 3800X2 and a 7900gt but should i want until the AM2 amd prosessors and the new Nvidia 8xxx series cards are released untill upgrading

would there be any benifit with the new mobos and cpus ang gpu`s that are coming out soon? and how long would they be untill release?

thanks.

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April 25, 2006 9:03:31 PM

Also note that Direct10X is only designed to work in Windows Vista. If you stick a DX10 video card into a PC using Windows XP or before then the card will simply act as a DX9 video card.

In other words, if you are intent on getting a DX10 card to play DX10 games on Windows XP then you are forget that idea. MS is releasing Halo 2 as a DX10 game to get people upgrade to Vista. Upgrade just to play a game? I don't think so.
April 25, 2006 9:04:07 PM

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AM2 will be an upgrade from s939, but not a really big one. 8xxx series will probably come out after Vista. So if you need to upgrade now, then go ahead.

If you can wait, wait for Intel Conroe, since it's supposed to be a big upgrade voer current platforms.

It really depends on what you want/can do.
I heard that nvidia 8 series will be released before vista!
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April 25, 2006 9:20:05 PM

if you have the money for upgrading to am2 and 8xxx why are you choosing a 3800 x2 and a 7900gt, and not a 4400/4800 x2 and the gtx one or sli maybe?
April 25, 2006 9:46:02 PM

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I doubt it. 7900 was just released.
Thats the rumor at the comp shop that 8 series will be released in december.
April 25, 2006 9:51:11 PM

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I doubt it. 7900 was just released.
No, Nvidia has a schedule; they release a new series of cards every summer.

Did the Geforce 6800 Ultra 512MB stop Nvidia from releasing the Geforce 7800GTX?
April 26, 2006 9:31:20 AM

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if you have the money for upgrading to am2 and 8xxx why are you choosing a 3800 x2 and a 7900gt, and not a 4400/4800 x2 and the gtx one or sli maybe?


Well i barely had enough money to get a Innovision 7900GT @450/1320
which is $520 Australian
i was going to sell some stuff and hopefully raise about $1300aus and get even more but i want to know if my currant system with a 7900gt will be future proof ?

will DX9 cards be speeded up by dx10 as much as the soon to be released dx10 cards ie. 8800gt/X2800 ?
April 26, 2006 3:53:39 PM

Since you already have a socket 939 board with a A64 3000 cpu you have a lot of headroom for an upgrade on your current system without buying a whole new motherboard. The AM2 is not a noticible improvement in performance currently and will remain that way till they optimize the platform "A year later" the 6000 and later series cards are supposed to work with vista even though they do not support dx10. I'd put your money into a 4800x2 after the am2 launch drops the price and use the money saved to buy a 7900gt. Make sure you have two gigs of ram as well. This should serve you for about 2 years and allow you to pick up the real cpu next generation cycle when it hits its stride after the am2 sometime in late 2007 early 2008 for a price drop on next generation tech. Unless you have money to burn and like to make serious upgrades every year. I know I dont.
April 27, 2006 8:44:13 AM

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Since you already have a socket 939 board with a A64 3000 cpu you have a lot of headroom for an upgrade on your current system without buying a whole new motherboard. The AM2 is not a noticible improvement in performance currently and will remain that way till they optimize the platform "A year later" the 6000 and later series cards are supposed to work with vista even though they do not support dx10. I'd put your money into a 4800x2 after the am2 launch drops the price and use the money saved to buy a 7900gt. Make sure you have two gigs of ram as well. This should serve you for about 2 years and allow you to pick up the real cpu next generation cycle when it hits its stride after the am2 sometime in late 2007 early 2008 for a price drop on next generation tech. Unless you have money to burn and like to make serious upgrades every year. I know I dont.


thanks heaps for the good breifing off upcoming Cpu Generations Zoridon i might get a 4200X2 but one question still remains Will a 7900GT be as good as a 8800GT cos i dont mind waiting!!!!

i got Cosair 400mhz DDR "Value" 512x2 Ram should i get another 2 sticks of this or replace it with say Cosair TwinX 2x1gb 400mhz ? if i did would it be worth it ? In Terms of Performance Vs. Price ?
April 28, 2006 1:43:16 PM

I don't have any info on the 8800gt yet. A 4200x2 will not perform much better than your existing cpu on most games since most games are single threaded right now. your almost better off using that money on a fast single core processor unless you multitask, video encode etc... by the time there are a lot mutithreaded games you will probably ugrade your system anyway to the new cpu tech "late next year" You could always buy a 7600gt and overclock your A64 3000 a little to satisfy you till some real price drops in the cpu and video card world. your 6600gt is your biggest bottleneck right now anyway. This would allow you to play any modern game at acceptable frame rates at 1024x768 with medium to high detail settings. Oblivion would be lower mid range settings since its such a beast. six months will save you probably $300 dollars in upgrades if you go this route and give you a faster system in the meantime.
April 28, 2006 2:50:18 PM

Right now i have a 6800GT256 with a 3500+ CPU and about 350 TGB storage and 3 gigs of ram. When i start getting frame rate below 50 in games with good graphics engines(read good graphics like half-life that have engines that preform well, unlike good graphics in EQ2 with crappy engines) i will look at a overhaul, i will wait for vista and DX10 before i change anything, i would also like to wait for flash ram cached hard rives. Games like oblivion will not be on my list of reasons for an upgrade not because i don't like the but because their graphics are not optimized well or they are ahead of their technical time, not sure which.

I think this answers your question from my perspective.
April 28, 2006 2:56:06 PM

I think 1 gig is enough, some people might disagree. 2 gigs certainly wouldn't hurt, but for the most part you don't NEED it. Especially with a 6600gt, your ram isn't your limitation, that is. If you're thinking about upgrading to AM2 or Intel in the near future then I wouldn't buy more DDR now since you're just going to have to get rid of it later for DDR2.

I wouldn't be surprised if nvidia's next gen chip would be along the same price point as the 79 series was. So 300-350 for the GT and 500-550 for the GTX. The next gen card should always outperform the previous generation so if you don't mind waiting ~6 months then just chill and wait for the 8 series. I'm sure ATI will drop something in between then also, so that's another option to consider.

The 7600 Zoridon mentioned is also a good upgrade if you want something right now and relatively inexpensive.
April 28, 2006 10:40:44 PM

Just a clarification, i don't have the ram for games, i have it for mathematical simulations that i run under Linux, windows wont even address it all. Two gigs is optimal for games, i have seen up to 1.9 addresses by some of the more hoggish ones
April 28, 2006 11:29:54 PM

what is wrong with releasing another just a little later? It doesn't mean you have to upgrade to it..... I wouldn't mind, it's not like Intel with forced upgrades.... it is just a faster option. Just keep in mind, almost all the games are playable max settings 1600-1200..... so why not?
April 29, 2006 12:41:10 AM

With vista pushed back to 2007 I'd just about guarantee we see the next gen of Nvidia and ATI before Vista. No way the x1900 and 7900 are the last card until next year. That'd be over 9 months between releases.
April 29, 2006 3:40:04 AM

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Bla bla bla releases.


LOL joking

so my system is ok exsept for the 6600gt well yeah ino but i dont have the money to get a 7600 then a 8800 or wateva i can only really afford 1 card as it is so i want it to be a good 1! plus i need to sell my 6600gt before it loses its worth!

is there any notisable differance between Cosair Value ram 2gb 4x512mb 400mhz modules and
Cosair TwinX 2x1gb 400mhZ modules TELL MEEE i need to know if i should make my ram Cosair Value ram 2gb 4x512mb by adding 2 sticks or replaceing my existing ram (Cosair Value ram 1gb 2x512mb 400mhz modules) with Cosair TwinX 2x1gb 400mhz modules

ram is my biggest priority besides getting new GPU!
April 30, 2006 5:53:17 AM

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hay guys i currantly have a pretty whack new comp a Athlon300064 939,1gig ddr400,250gig ide 6600gt 256mb ect.
i was going to upgrade to a 3800X2 and a 7900gt but should i want until the AM2 amd prosessors and the new Nvidia 8xxx series cards are released untill upgrading

would there be any benifit with the new mobos and cpus ang gpu`s that are coming out soon? and how long would they be untill release?

thanks.


It looks like you have got a similar system to the one which I just bought. I took the chance to upgrade now, and then I plan to put in a new, either high-end geforce 7 card, or a dx 10.0 card - whatever, later on with an X2 processor when I find I really need it (I am not rich). I also got some cheap-ish memory so that later on i can just slap in some higher-performance 2GB memory, when needed. So myself, with a low-budget, that's what I'm doing. I say screw AM2, who needs it? It's just a socket change, upgrade your socket 939 system to the max before you buy anything that hasn't been released yet.
April 30, 2006 6:49:21 AM

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hay guys i currantly have a pretty whack new comp a Athlon300064 939,1gig ddr400,250gig ide 6600gt 256mb ect.
i was going to upgrade to a 3800X2 and a 7900gt but should i want until the AM2 amd prosessors and the new Nvidia 8xxx series cards are released untill upgrading

would there be any benifit with the new mobos and cpus ang gpu`s that are coming out soon? and how long would they be untill release?

thanks.


It looks like you have got a similar system to the one which I just bought. I took the chance to upgrade now, and then I plan to put in a new, either high-end geforce 7 card, or a dx 10.0 card - whatever, later on with an X2 processor when I find I really need it (I am not rich). I also got some cheap-ish memory so that later on i can just slap in some higher-performance 2GB memory, when needed. So myself, with a low-budget, that's what I'm doing. I say screw AM2, who needs it? It's just a socket change, upgrade your socket 939 system to the max before you buy anything that hasn't been released yet.

Thx Bud. Yeah im gonna get a 3800X2 and smack in some more Value ram from cosair and get a new case and a Zalman VF900-Cu to put on my 7900gt and get a new cpu cooler n shit cos my currant setup with my shi T Y case CPu runs at 40+ and thats way 2 hot

good to know theres another non spoilt avgerage person out there

PS. Goddamn richboys lol
April 30, 2006 3:20:44 PM

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hay guys i currantly have a pretty whack new comp a Athlon300064 939,1gig ddr400,250gig ide 6600gt 256mb ect.
i was going to upgrade to a 3800X2 and a 7900gt but should i want until the AM2 amd prosessors and the new Nvidia 8xxx series cards are released untill upgrading

would there be any benifit with the new mobos and cpus ang gpu`s that are coming out soon? and how long would they be untill release?

thanks.


It looks like you have got a similar system to the one which I just bought. I took the chance to upgrade now, and then I plan to put in a new, either high-end geforce 7 card, or a dx 10.0 card - whatever, later on with an X2 processor when I find I really need it (I am not rich). I also got some cheap-ish memory so that later on i can just slap in some higher-performance 2GB memory, when needed. So myself, with a low-budget, that's what I'm doing. I say screw AM2, who needs it? It's just a socket change, upgrade your socket 939 system to the max before you buy anything that hasn't been released yet.

Thx Bud. Yeah im gonna get a 3800X2 and smack in some more Value ram from cosair and get a new case and a Zalman VF900-Cu to put on my 7900gt and get a new cpu cooler n **** cos my currant setup with my shi T Y case CPu runs at 40+ and thats way 2 hot

good to know theres another non spoilt avgerage person out there

PS. Goddamn richboys lol


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