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Anonymous
April 27, 2005 4:59:55 PM

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I recently formatted my c: drive and now when I try to install my Win98 it
starts out all right, scans disk etc... then it says copying files for 98
setup then a message comes up "Standard Mode: Fault outside of ms-dos
extender. EC=0000 IP=3E24 AX=0140 BX=0120 CX=0120 DX=01E0
SI=01C0 DI=0000 BP=0FC2 DS=0277 ES=0387 SS=027F SP=0FAZ
Please remove any floppy disks from your drives and press any key to restart
your system."
I recieve this message whether I have my win98 floppy boot disk in or not
and am unable to go any further. When I restart my pc the whole process
starts again and I end up at the same message. Any help?????? TIA
Anonymous
April 27, 2005 8:14:47 PM

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Read the setup.txt file on your W98 CD--it has info on this error

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"mandolinwind61" <mandolinwind61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9DFA6294-D042-46A9-9A15-30012BC1CEEA@microsoft.com...
>I recently formatted my c: drive and now when I try to install my Win98 it
> starts out all right, scans disk etc... then it says copying files for 98
> setup then a message comes up "Standard Mode: Fault outside of ms-dos
> extender. EC=0000 IP=3E24 AX=0140 BX=0120 CX=0120 DX=01E0
> SI=01C0 DI=0000 BP=0FC2 DS=0277 ES=0387 SS=027F
> SP=0FAZ
> Please remove any floppy disks from your drives and press any key to
> restart
> your system."
> I recieve this message whether I have my win98 floppy boot disk in or not
> and am unable to go any further. When I restart my pc the whole process
> starts again and I end up at the same message. Any help?????? TIA
Anonymous
April 27, 2005 9:22:40 PM

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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=87239
Windows Err Msg: Fault in MS-DOS Extender

Here is a quote from Setup.txt, located in same folder as Setup.exe...
.......Quote.............
Standard Mode Messages
If you get any of the following error messages, remove
any memory managers (such as EMM386.exe, QEMM, or 386Max)
from your Config.sys file, and then run Setup again.

Standard Mode: Invalid DPMI return.
Standard Mode: Fault in MS-DOS Extender.
Standard Mode: Bad Fault in MS-DOS Extender.
Standard Mode: Unknown stack in fault dispatcher.
Standard Mode: Stack Overflow.

NOTE: If you still have problems, add EMM386.EXE back
into your Config.sys file and exclude all ranges. For
example,

device=c:\windows\emm386.exe x=A000-FFFF

If you encounter these messages or if your computer stops
responding during Setup, turn on double-buffering in
SmartDrive. Several SCSI hard drives and some ESDI drives
require double-buffering.

To turn on double buffering, add the following line to
the beginning of your Config.sys file:

device=c:\windows\smartdrv.exe /double_buffer+

where "c:\windows" is the path to your Windows directory.
.......End quote.......


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"mandolinwind61" <mandolinwind61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:9DFA6294-D042-46A9-9A15-30012BC1CEEA@microsoft.com...
| I recently formatted my c: drive and now when I try to install my
Win98 it
| starts out all right, scans disk etc... then it says copying files for
98
| setup then a message comes up "Standard Mode: Fault outside of ms-dos
| extender. EC=0000 IP=3E24 AX=0140 BX=0120 CX=0120
DX=01E0
| SI=01C0 DI=0000 BP=0FC2 DS=0277 ES=0387 SS=027F
SP=0FAZ
| Please remove any floppy disks from your drives and press any key to
restart
| your system."
| I recieve this message whether I have my win98 floppy boot disk in or
not
| and am unable to go any further. When I restart my pc the whole
process
| starts again and I end up at the same message. Any help?????? TIA
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Anonymous
April 27, 2005 10:16:02 PM

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How do I remove the memory manager from the config.sys file?

"PCR" wrote:

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=87239
> Windows Err Msg: Fault in MS-DOS Extender
>
> Here is a quote from Setup.txt, located in same folder as Setup.exe...
> .......Quote.............
> Standard Mode Messages
> If you get any of the following error messages, remove
> any memory managers (such as EMM386.exe, QEMM, or 386Max)
> from your Config.sys file, and then run Setup again.
>
> Standard Mode: Invalid DPMI return.
> Standard Mode: Fault in MS-DOS Extender.
> Standard Mode: Bad Fault in MS-DOS Extender.
> Standard Mode: Unknown stack in fault dispatcher.
> Standard Mode: Stack Overflow.
>
> NOTE: If you still have problems, add EMM386.EXE back
> into your Config.sys file and exclude all ranges. For
> example,
>
> device=c:\windows\emm386.exe x=A000-FFFF
>
> If you encounter these messages or if your computer stops
> responding during Setup, turn on double-buffering in
> SmartDrive. Several SCSI hard drives and some ESDI drives
> require double-buffering.
>
> To turn on double buffering, add the following line to
> the beginning of your Config.sys file:
>
> device=c:\windows\smartdrv.exe /double_buffer+
>
> where "c:\windows" is the path to your Windows directory.
> .......End quote.......
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "mandolinwind61" <mandolinwind61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:9DFA6294-D042-46A9-9A15-30012BC1CEEA@microsoft.com...
> | I recently formatted my c: drive and now when I try to install my
> Win98 it
> | starts out all right, scans disk etc... then it says copying files for
> 98
> | setup then a message comes up "Standard Mode: Fault outside of ms-dos
> | extender. EC=0000 IP=3E24 AX=0140 BX=0120 CX=0120
> DX=01E0
> | SI=01C0 DI=0000 BP=0FC2 DS=0277 ES=0387 SS=027F
> SP=0FAZ
> | Please remove any floppy disks from your drives and press any key to
> restart
> | your system."
> | I recieve this message whether I have my win98 floppy boot disk in or
> not
> | and am unable to go any further. When I restart my pc the whole
> process
> | starts again and I end up at the same message. Any help?????? TIA
>
>
>
Anonymous
April 28, 2005 3:31:30 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

At DOS...

(1) EDIT C:\Config.sys
Alt-F-X-ENTER (pressed separately) will exit EDIT.
TAB to navigate buttons. ENTER to accept button.

(2) Type "REM " (with the space, w/o the quotes) in front of the EMM386
line.

Good luck, but this sounds like a tough one.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"mandolinwind61" <mandolinwind61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:46F36F90-5596-409E-B5DC-1409C06C0A04@microsoft.com...
| How do I remove the memory manager from the config.sys file?
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=87239
| > Windows Err Msg: Fault in MS-DOS Extender
| >
| > Here is a quote from Setup.txt, located in same folder as
Setup.exe...
| > .......Quote.............
| > Standard Mode Messages
| > If you get any of the following error messages, remove
| > any memory managers (such as EMM386.exe, QEMM, or 386Max)
| > from your Config.sys file, and then run Setup again.
| >
| > Standard Mode: Invalid DPMI return.
| > Standard Mode: Fault in MS-DOS Extender.
| > Standard Mode: Bad Fault in MS-DOS Extender.
| > Standard Mode: Unknown stack in fault dispatcher.
| > Standard Mode: Stack Overflow.
| >
| > NOTE: If you still have problems, add EMM386.EXE back
| > into your Config.sys file and exclude all ranges. For
| > example,
| >
| > device=c:\windows\emm386.exe x=A000-FFFF
| >
| > If you encounter these messages or if your computer stops
| > responding during Setup, turn on double-buffering in
| > SmartDrive. Several SCSI hard drives and some ESDI drives
| > require double-buffering.
| >
| > To turn on double buffering, add the following line to
| > the beginning of your Config.sys file:
| >
| > device=c:\windows\smartdrv.exe /double_buffer+
| >
| > where "c:\windows" is the path to your Windows directory.
| > .......End quote.......
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "mandolinwind61" <mandolinwind61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| > message news:9DFA6294-D042-46A9-9A15-30012BC1CEEA@microsoft.com...
| > | I recently formatted my c: drive and now when I try to install my
| > Win98 it
| > | starts out all right, scans disk etc... then it says copying files
for
| > 98
| > | setup then a message comes up "Standard Mode: Fault outside of
ms-dos
| > | extender. EC=0000 IP=3E24 AX=0140 BX=0120 CX=0120
| > DX=01E0
| > | SI=01C0 DI=0000 BP=0FC2 DS=0277 ES=0387 SS=027F
| > SP=0FAZ
| > | Please remove any floppy disks from your drives and press any key
to
| > restart
| > | your system."
| > | I recieve this message whether I have my win98 floppy boot disk in
or
| > not
| > | and am unable to go any further. When I restart my pc the whole
| > process
| > | starts again and I end up at the same message. Any help?????? TIA
| >
| >
| >
Anonymous
April 29, 2005 12:58:24 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

> (1) EDIT C:\Config.sys
> Alt-F-X-ENTER (pressed separately) will exit EDIT.
> TAB to navigate buttons. ENTER to accept button.
>
> (2) Type "REM " (with the space, w/o the quotes) in front of the EMM386
> line.
>
> Good luck, but this sounds like a tough one.

Sure does, but my first question would be Why an error like this
occurs on a newly Formatted drive...... what do you reckon
pcr?
Does something like this go as deep as 'mbr'?
If it is a hard-drive problem it sounds like the best bet would be to
purchase a new one; if its something else, mobo or whatever, then
getting to the 'root' of the problem would be a better road as
problems at foundation level are surely going to show up further
down the track after the o/s is installed.

jane

(still summer here pcr and life is grand)
Anonymous
April 29, 2005 12:58:25 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=87239
Windows Err Msg: Fault in MS-DOS Extender

It's a tough one, I said, meaning... who knows WHAT it is? It wouldn't
hurt to test RAM & the hard drive, as you say.

I guess "FDISK /MBR" to be worth a try, if a boot sector virus is
suspected AND one is doing a reformat/wipe of the entire hard drive
anyway. All partitions on a hard drive are vulnerable to a boot sector
virus, not just C:\. Kill the virus, & the partitions may become
inaccessible...

Enter "FDISK /MBR"
This will rewrite the code portion of the Master Boot Record,
leaving the Partition Table untouched, except it may muss the partition
table, if there is a missing End-Of-Sector marker (55AA), per
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=149877
Boot Record Signature AA55 Not Found

Here are the warnings against it...

(a) If you have a boot sector virus, you may lose access to all
partitions. Then
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/utilities.html MBRWork "might" help to
recover them.

(b) If you have "overlay" code in the MBR, e.g., EZ-BIOS, Maxblast, a
boot manager, then that will need to be reestablished afterwards.
http://www.aefdisk.com/ FDISK & Boot Manager
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=245162
Cannot Access Hard Disk After Booting from Floppy Disk

(c) FDISK may be buggy. So? Use MBRWork to do it, or
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=263044
Latest FDISK, hoping this one doesn't have any bugs. (But it doesn't
solve the 55AA thing.)

(d) If for some reason the "geometry" setting in BIOS does not match the
hard drive, then any write to the drive may be destructive. So, go into
BIOS and have it "automatically detect" the proper setting. (If you can
DIR the drive in DOS, then you have proven the geometry is probably all
right, though Blanton has said it may not be so under a certain rare
circumstance.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"jane" <jane@internet.com> wrote in message
news:uryMgV%23SFHA.2256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
|
| > (1) EDIT C:\Config.sys
| > Alt-F-X-ENTER (pressed separately) will exit EDIT.
| > TAB to navigate buttons. ENTER to accept button.
| >
| > (2) Type "REM " (with the space, w/o the quotes) in front of the
EMM386
| > line.
| >
| > Good luck, but this sounds like a tough one.
|
| Sure does, but my first question would be Why an error like this
| occurs on a newly Formatted drive...... what do you reckon
| pcr?
| Does something like this go as deep as 'mbr'?
| If it is a hard-drive problem it sounds like the best bet would be to
| purchase a new one; if its something else, mobo or whatever, then
| getting to the 'root' of the problem would be a better road as
| problems at foundation level are surely going to show up further
| down the track after the o/s is installed.
|
| jane
|
| (still summer here pcr and life is grand)
|
|
!