Here is the latest on AMD's production plans.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/d [...] 81538.html

Essentially, the 65nm process will begin ramping in Q3 of this year, however, products won't actually be released until Q1 2007. The 65nm process looks to come equipped with SiGe for that constantly referred to 42% transistor improvement over a non-stressed process. Given that AMD advertises their 2nd generation process as giving a 24% transistor performance increase, the third generation is about 18% better than the current process.

Also, despite insistance by some people, the 42% improvement in transistor performance doesn't translate into 42% faster processors.

AMD is also scheduled to begin production on the 45nm process in 2008 although actual products won't ship until later, possibly 6 months later using the current 65nm plans as an example.

Sweet, cheap dual cores in 2007.

I cant wait it means that dual core sempron is on the way and k10 is coming out in 07 so put it together you get 5 issue sempron at 2.0 ghz dual core!(I'm just dreaming)

With the ability to make such complex chips becoming so cheap I wonder when we will finally see a a full computer on a chip minus the RAM and hdd.

And I want a co-processor in my brain.
Seriously, I can't deal with animals and comptuers at the same time.

By mid next year the FX-60 and the 840 EE would cost around $400 or lower. But I would still buy the new ones.

$400 is far from cheap.

From 1000$ ya its cheap but still you have a point i remember when you could buy a p3 at 1.2 ghz for 150 and oc it to the speed and performance of a 1.4 ghz taulatin.

Highest ever clocked P3 Coppermine only went up to 1Ghz. The 1.13Ghz got scrapped by Intel after THG busted them.

I said tualatin not coppermine.

Oh... *bangs head against desk*
I'm having a screwy Engrish today.

I don't think this is k10, I think this is K8L, maybe I'm wrong though, maybe AM2 is K8L...

Nah then action man would've stepped in with the keyboard and made this thread more hostile.

I don't think this is k10, I think this is K8L, maybe I'm wrong though, maybe AM2 is K8L... Yes it is k9 was dual core cpu's but k8l is just k8 with ddr2.

Nah then action man would've stepped in with the keyboard and made this thread more hostile.



Seriously, how many people think come January 2nd (the 1st is a holiday), we will see any 65 nm product out of AMD? We should start a betting pool

Anybody for Feb 14, nice valentines day present..
How about Feb 28th, perahps March 15th? It's been hard to narrow AMD down on their 65 nm progress of late. Better late then never.

Nah then action man would've stepped in with the keyboard and made this thread more hostile.



Seriously, how many people think come January 2nd (the 1st is a holiday), we will see any 65 nm product out of AMD? We should start a betting pool

Anybody for Feb 14, nice valentines day present..
How about Feb 28th, perahps March 15th? It's been hard to narrow AMD down on their 65 nm progress of late. Better late then never.
Yep so Intel can run away with Conroe will all that waiting time. [/fanboy]

I wonder at what freq those 65nm SOI with applied DSL + SMT can work sable and on what voltage.

Nah then action man would've stepped in with the keyboard and made this thread more hostile.



Seriously, how many people think come January 2nd (the 1st is a holiday), we will see any 65 nm product out of AMD? We should start a betting pool

Anybody for Feb 14, nice valentines day present..
How about Feb 28th, perahps March 15th? It's been hard to narrow AMD down on their 65 nm progress of late. Better late then never.
Yep so Intel can run away with Conroe will all that waiting time. [/fanboy] :?:

Nah then action man would've stepped in with the keyboard and made this thread more hostile.



Seriously, how many people think come January 2nd (the 1st is a holiday), we will see any 65 nm product out of AMD? We should start a betting pool

Anybody for Feb 14, nice valentines day present..
How about Feb 28th, perahps March 15th? It's been hard to narrow AMD down on their 65 nm progress of late. Better late then never.

Ohhhh, yes very very true.... hmmmm, you know given a choice a) would I want to get 300 mm online or b) would i want to have 65 nm yielding? I would want 65 nm , they may have spent too many resources getting Fab 36 online, I wonder if it may have impacted their 65 nm schedule.

The ramp/release timeline is reasonable, Intel ramped 65 nm starting in Q3, built inventory for Yonah release in Q1 06... Between now and then 90 nm will need to suffice, will be tought though.

I think the chorus of questions was valid -- why not bring Fab 36 up on 65 nm? That would have been the most efficient and wisest, I understand the "bring it up on 90 nm" philosophy, but they have a 300 mm 65 nm development line, why not transfer it to a new fab like Intel does?
Simple they had orders 200 mm wafers and needed to use them all up thats why.