The CH yoke...I did it now!

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Well....I finally got the nerve to take my yoke apart.
(I know Crash and Varmit....I know....it took me long enough!)
It was starting to make strange noises, so I figured it needed some
cleaning on the inside.

I unscrewed all 6 screws, unscrewed the two clamps and that's when it
happened. The two nuts that hold the clamps in place have now fallen deep
inside the interior of the yoke and the yoke itself doesn't wanna be opened
and this means I can't use the yoke until everything is back the way it
was.

BUT....for some reason the yoke won't open!!
Is there some "hidden" trick I need to bypass in order to open the damn
thing? Without damaging it!!

--

Marcel (SAG-21)
(If you've gotta be part of a group, be part of a group of simmers!)

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In article <1slqb3yrjew7m.ri7t0h4jwfq4$.dlg@40tude.net>,
zoepetier_nothing_here@hotmail.com says...
> BUT....for some reason the yoke won't open!!
> Is there some "hidden" trick I need to bypass in order to open the damn
> thing? Without damaging it!!

Did you get the two screws that are hidden under the rear rubber feet?

/Chris T

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Dallas wrote:

> Like Chris T said, there are 8 screws... two hidden under the rubber feet
> on the back side of the unit. Remove the last 2 screws and flip the unit
> right side up and lift the top off. Watch out, don't break the wires to the
> throttle on the top unit, just fold the top over and alongside the bottom
> unit. Pick a big flat space to do all this.

Nice, is it also easy to open the pedals from CH to clean the inside?
Main collected some dust, I would like to open and clean them, but I'm
not a 'Handy Harry'.

Thanks,
C_S

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Caution, if you are going to lube it , do not use anything with
petroleum, in it will destroy the plastic parts in the yoke. The best
stuff I have found is a dry spray called Liquid Wrench Dry Lube. Some
Liquid wrench products are petro based, so be careful about which one
you get. If you can't find this lube, a silicon spray will work also.


http://www.gunk.com/oe2.asp?pic=L512



Bob















On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:57:05 GMT, "Dallas"
<Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote:

>
>"Marcel Kuijper"
>> The two nuts that hold the clamps in place have now
>> fallen deep inside the interior of the yoke
>
>
>Now you've done it!
>
>If the two nuts fall into the interior they will destroy the fragile
>electronics by cracking the ceramic gate arrays!
>
>-
>-
>-
>-
>-
>
>Just kidding :-)
>
>Like Chris T said, there are 8 screws... two hidden under the rubber feet
>on the back side of the unit. Remove the last 2 screws and flip the unit
>right side up and lift the top off. Watch out, don't break the wires to the
>throttle on the top unit, just fold the top over and alongside the bottom
>unit. Pick a big flat space to do all this.
>
>Clean the shaft with alcohol then re-lubricate it. Try to get the "shaft
>collars" (the 2 rings around the shaft) clean on their insides.
>
>It's a good idea to glue the nuts into their retainer so they don't fall out
>again.
>
>To reassemble it, plug it in and test it with the cover off to make sure it
>all works, it's only 5 volts and not dangerous. The usual mistake is not
>putting the elevator axis post back into the channel before you screw it all
>back together. Look at my photograph to get a general idea of what I'm
>talking about.
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/Dallas52/Misc/InsidetheCHYoke.jpg
>
>If it all works, put the screws back in. If the rubber feet are still very
>sticky... good... just stick them back on. If you got them dirty and they
>lost their sticky just a tiny bit of a rubbery type of cement. - rubber
>cement is excellent - because you might have to take it apart again.
>
>PS Don't use an electric screw driver! The screw sockets strip very easily
>because the plastic is cheap.
>
>Dallas
>

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 06:57:05 GMT, Dallas wrote:

> Like Chris T said, there are 8 screws... two hidden under the rubber feet
> on the back side of the unit. Remove the last 2 screws and flip the unit
> right side up and lift the top off. Watch out, don't break the wires to the
> throttle on the top unit, just fold the top over and alongside the bottom
> unit. Pick a big flat space to do all this.

Unplugging the connector on the levers is also a good option.
This gave me a little more room to work in.
I took the whole thing apart, cleaned it, reassembled it and tested it.
No problemo! Everything works.

For someone who hates to play with wires and electricity I'm amazed I
didn't blow it up! :-)


> Clean the shaft with alcohol then re-lubricate it. Try to get the "shaft
> collars" (the 2 rings around the shaft) clean on their insides.

Done!


> It's a good idea to glue the nuts into their retainer so they don't fall out
> again.

Done!


> To reassemble it, plug it in and test it with the cover off to make sure it
> all works, it's only 5 volts and not dangerous. The usual mistake is not
> putting the elevator axis post back into the channel before you screw it all
> back together. Look at my photograph to get a general idea of what I'm
> talking about.

Almost forgot the elevator axis.
I looked inside once more before closing it and then noticed something that
looked to have no particular function....that was the elevator axis. :-)


> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/ [...] CHYoke.jpg

Hey! That looks familiar!


> PS Don't use an electric screw driver! The screw sockets strip very easily
> because the plastic is cheap.

The plastic is cheap, but the rest sure ain't.


Thanks for the back-up, guys (and the tip about screw 7 and 8).
I now have a clean and properly functioning yoke and it's good for yet
another 50.000nm.

--

Marcel (SAG-21)
(If you want to grow old as a pilot, you've got to know when to
push it, and when to back off. - Chuck Yeager)

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:00:14 +1200, donbutts wrote:

> Um.. I got this noise in my washing machine Marcel ... perhaps you may be
> able to help........ :-)

I've found that a sledgehammer often always makes a difference, Don. :-)


> Seriously could you send me an email addy that can take a larger file as
> your hotmail is obviously pretty full. A very funny aero mpeg. You should
> have my Xtra address if not hotmail ok. If I knew how to url it I would.

Odd.
My hotmail inbox holds 250MB and only 1 per cent was used.
Sending a URL is easy: open the page, highlight the address in the
addressbar, copy the address with CTRL C into an e-mail and paste it with
CTRL V.
So post it here and share it with your mates, mate.

--

Marcel (SAG-21)
(Any landing you walk away from wasn't one of Melissa's! <g> )

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er you misunderstood. There is no url at this stage. I would have to
create it and web it somewhere. I'll have another shot at sending it Marcel
:-)
Butts

"Marcel Kuijper" <zoepetier_nothing_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1lt1ufi35wpfe.qia5ufice7pd$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:00:14 +1200, donbutts wrote:
>
>> Um.. I got this noise in my washing machine Marcel ... perhaps you may be
>> able to help........ :-)
>
> I've found that a sledgehammer often always makes a difference, Don. :-)
>
>
>> Seriously could you send me an email addy that can take a larger file as
>> your hotmail is obviously pretty full. A very funny aero mpeg. You
>> should
>> have my Xtra address if not hotmail ok. If I knew how to url it I would.
>
> Odd.
> My hotmail inbox holds 250MB and only 1 per cent was used.
> Sending a URL is easy: open the page, highlight the address in the
> addressbar, copy the address with CTRL C into an e-mail and paste it with
> CTRL V.
> So post it here and share it with your mates, mate.
>
> --
>
> Marcel (SAG-21)
> (Any landing you walk away from wasn't one of Melissa's! <g> )

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Butts gives up.. must be a 'suspicious mail' filter at your end
Butts

"donbutts" <remove.donneybutts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> er you misunderstood. There is no url at this stage. I would have to
> create it and web it somewhere. I'll have another shot at sending it
> Marcel :-)
> Butts
>
> "Marcel Kuijper" <zoepetier_nothing_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1lt1ufi35wpfe.qia5ufice7pd$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:00:14 +1200, donbutts wrote:
>>
>>> Um.. I got this noise in my washing machine Marcel ... perhaps you may
>>> be
>>> able to help........ :-)
>>
>> I've found that a sledgehammer often always makes a difference, Don. :-)
>>
>>
>>> Seriously could you send me an email addy that can take a larger file as
>>> your hotmail is obviously pretty full. A very funny aero mpeg. You
>>> should
>>> have my Xtra address if not hotmail ok. If I knew how to url it I would.
>>
>> Odd.
>> My hotmail inbox holds 250MB and only 1 per cent was used.
>> Sending a URL is easy: open the page, highlight the address in the
>> addressbar, copy the address with CTRL C into an e-mail and paste it with
>> CTRL V.
>> So post it here and share it with your mates, mate.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Marcel (SAG-21)
>> (Any landing you walk away from wasn't one of Melissa's! <g> )
>
>

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"S Herman"
> The thing I hate about my CH yoke is that it doesn't return to
> fore/aft center.

Mine does just fine... so it's not all of them.

Only three things it could be:

1) Shaft not clean
2) Not lubricated well
3) Springs are stretched and too long.

Dallas

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"S Herman"
> Thanks, it was this way out of the box. I thought that's just the way
> it worked,

Out of the box? I seem to remember someone saying the USB yokes had a return
to center problem.. (mine is gameport)

That would seem to indicate springs that are too long. Personally, I would
shorten the springs.

How? Do it only if you are really mechanically inclined and good with this
sort of stuff because if the modification goes south, you've hosed your yoke
until you can find replacement springs.

Basically, you cut the first loop in the spring in the same place on both
springs and then use a needle nose pliers to bend and fashion a new hook.

Proceed with caution. :-)


Dallas

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Hi CRaSH,

Thanks, mate - we've all got our strong points. :-))

Regards,
John Ward
"CRaSH" <sorry@aint-here.spam.com> wrote in message
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> John ward wrote:
>>
>> That's assuming your mouse is still working, of course - or have
>> you taken it apart too, to "fix" it?? :-))
>>
>
> You are a heartless, cruel person, in need of sensitivity training
> JayDub....
>
> Gawwd, I love it.. d:-> ))
>
> Cheers'n Beers.. [_])
> Don
>

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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:57:12 GMT, Dallas wrote:

> You show great potential for a career in electronics technology.
>
> Mechanical?... not so much.

No? Nothing has fallen off my Jeep yet. (except for some pigeonshit <g> )

--

Marcel (SAG-21)
(It's a NIGHTMAAAARE!!! - C3PO)

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Hi Marcel,

How can anything fall off a jeep - aren't they just one big piece,
welded together? :-)

Regards,
John Ward
"Marcel Kuijper" <zoepetier_nothing_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:57:12 GMT, Dallas wrote:
>
>> You show great potential for a career in electronics technology.
>>
>> Mechanical?... not so much.
>
> No? Nothing has fallen off my Jeep yet. (except for some pigeonshit <g> )
>
> --
>
> Marcel (SAG-21)
> (It's a NIGHTMAAAARE!!! - C3PO)

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"John ward"
> Maybe you could send it to Marcel for repairs - I hear his rates are
> very reasonable? :-)

Na, I'm pretty sure he said he wanted to use it again.


:-)

Dallas

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John ward wrote:
> Betcha Marcel can't igmore that one! :-))
>

Well I damn sure wouldn't igmore it either......... :-/

>>
>> "John ward"
>>> Maybe you could send it to Marcel for repairs - I hear his
>>> rates are very reasonable? :-)
>>
>> Na, I'm pretty sure he said he wanted to use it again.
>>

#2 in line for sensitivity counciling............

Just begging to have an ankle gnawed by attack Westie!!

<G>

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:21:06 +1000, John ward wrote:

> Betcha Marcel can't igmore that one! :-))

Betcha I can?
:-)

--

Marcel (SAG-21)
(...travelling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy!)

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:52:40 -0500, CRaSH wrote:

>>> Dallas wrote:
>>> Na, I'm pretty sure he said he wanted to use it again.
>
> #2 in line for sensitivity counciling............
>
> Just begging to have an ankle gnawed by attack Westie!!
>
> <G>

What is it this week: pick on the Dutchman?
I'll have all of you know that the yoke was taken apart completely,
thoroughly cleaned and then completely reassembled.
And, obviously to everyone's amazement (including my own <g> ), all of its
functions are operable.

Now I may not be an engineer or an electronics expert, like most of you
former geeks, but the darn thing works. So do my computers, which I built
myself. Not bad for a Dutchman, I like to think.

So let me sit here in pride for the remainder of the week, which will keep
the little white devil happy and quiet also.

Besides...I know better than to take an Aussie and a Texan (sorry boB)
seriously. And I can sure spot a trap when I see one, fellas. ;-)

--

Marcel (SAG-21)
Elwood: "It's a 106 miles to Chicago, we've gotta full tank of gas, a half
pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
Jake: "Hit it!"

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Hi Marcel,

<Snipetty snip>
".....Besides...I know better than to take an Aussie and a Texan (sorry
boB) seriously. And I can sure spot a trap when I see one, fellas. ;-)"

As if we'ld try to do that, mate!

That would be Mission Impossible. :-))

Regards,
John Ward
"Marcel Kuijper" <zoepetier_nothing_here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:52:40 -0500, CRaSH wrote:
>
>>>> Dallas wrote:
>>>> Na, I'm pretty sure he said he wanted to use it again.
>>
>> #2 in line for sensitivity counciling............
>>
>> Just begging to have an ankle gnawed by attack Westie!!
>>
>> <G>
>
> What is it this week: pick on the Dutchman?
> I'll have all of you know that the yoke was taken apart completely,
> thoroughly cleaned and then completely reassembled.
> And, obviously to everyone's amazement (including my own <g> ), all of its
> functions are operable.
>
> Now I may not be an engineer or an electronics expert, like most of you
> former geeks, but the darn thing works. So do my computers, which I built
> myself. Not bad for a Dutchman, I like to think.
>
> So let me sit here in pride for the remainder of the week, which will keep
> the little white devil happy and quiet also.
>
> Besides...I know better than to take an Aussie and a Texan (sorry boB)
> seriously. And I can sure spot a trap when I see one, fellas. ;-)
>
> --
>
> Marcel (SAG-21)
> Elwood: "It's a 106 miles to Chicago, we've gotta full tank of gas, a half
> pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."
> Jake: "Hit it!"

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"Marcel Kuijper"
> That other Texan is originally a Californian. :-)

And you're not a Dutchman... you're a Canuk... aye hoser?

:-)

Dallas

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"Marcel Kuijper"
> Now you've done it! You've just unmasked the super-hero.

HA! the "Flying Dutchman" to the rescue.


Dallas