canot detect second ide devices

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running w98se, on the pri ide, have the zip drive in the middle connector and
hd1(80gb barracuda) with cs setting. On the 2nd ide cable, have the hd2 in
the middle connector (no jumper) and cd combo at the end connector
upon boot up, there is no detection of the 2nd ide devices, tried changing
the ide cable, no luck. Reading from this forum, understand that its better
to have all the hd's in one ide cable but does that affect the detection.?
Any ideas please
 
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"jack" <jack@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:71EF02B9-58C0-44E8-A75B-C31F2579CB45@microsoft.com...
> running w98se, on the pri ide, have the zip drive in the middle connector and
> hd1(80gb barracuda) with cs setting. On the 2nd ide cable, have the hd2 in
> the middle connector (no jumper) and cd combo at the end connector
> upon boot up, there is no detection of the 2nd ide devices, tried changing
> the ide cable, no luck. Reading from this forum, understand that its better
> to have all the hd's in one ide cable but does that affect the detection.?
> Any ideas please

"No jumper" can mean different things to different drive models. You either want
a Master/Slave relationship on any one IDE cable or have both devices set as
cable select and let the BIOS sort it out depending on the cable position.

In a Master/Slave config, you want the master at the end of the cable and the
slave in the middle. Both drives jumpered accordingly. For cable select you
want the same cable positions, but both drives must be jumpered as CS.

If you have everthing jumpered and positioned correctly, and it still doesn't work,
try swapping the removable "slaves" to the other cable, making sure to reconfigure
the jumper setting to CS or slave (if applicable). Some ATA devices just don't work
well together.
 
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On top of Bill, you may need to go with a Master/Slave setting on the devices
as some devices won't play nice with Cable Select.

One other thing we would like to know is if the drives on the Secondary IDE are
detected by the BIOS?

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"jack" <jack@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> running w98se, on the pri ide, have the zip drive in the middle connector and
> hd1(80gb barracuda) with cs setting. On the 2nd ide cable, have the hd2 in
> the middle connector (no jumper) and cd combo at the end connector
> upon boot up, there is no detection of the 2nd ide devices, tried changing
> the ide cable, no luck. Reading from this forum, understand that its better
> to have all the hd's in one ide cable but does that affect the detection.?
> Any ideas please
 
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In my BIOS I have the option to enable/disable primary and secondary IDE
separately
Perhaps IDE 1 is disabled in BIOS,

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"jack" <jack@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:71EF02B9-58C0-44E8-A75B-C31F2579CB45@microsoft.com...
> running w98se, on the pri ide, have the zip drive in the middle connector
and
> hd1(80gb barracuda) with cs setting. On the 2nd ide cable, have the hd2 in
> the middle connector (no jumper) and cd combo at the end connector
> upon boot up, there is no detection of the 2nd ide devices, tried changing
> the ide cable, no luck. Reading from this forum, understand that its
better
> to have all the hd's in one ide cable but does that affect the
detection.?
> Any ideas please
 
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If the mystery hd2 is of Western Digital manufacture, no jumper means
"master alone". You can have no other ide device on the same ide ribbon
cable in that scenario. If this is the case, the jumper selection is the
culprit. I've always put the master on the end of the ribbon cable,
irregardless if CS was used or not.

Whether or not to have the two hard drives on the same ribbon cable is a
matter of prevailing/majority usage amongst the two, and the remaining ide
devices on the second ide ribbon cable. There is no hard answer.

"jack" <jack@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:71EF02B9-58C0-44E8-A75B-C31F2579CB45@microsoft.com...
> running w98se, on the pri ide, have the zip drive in the middle connector
and
> hd1(80gb barracuda) with cs setting. On the 2nd ide cable, have the hd2 in
> the middle connector (no jumper) and cd combo at the end connector
> upon boot up, there is no detection of the 2nd ide devices, tried changing
> the ide cable, no luck. Reading from this forum, understand that its
better
> to have all the hd's in one ide cable but does that affect the
detection.?
> Any ideas please