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April 28, 2006 5:46:02 AM

I know my requirements but dont know what to buy.
I am not interested in future upgrades. I tend to buy now, use 3-4 years and buy new computer. However, adding HD should be an option.
My budget not over $1000 for core system (CPU, RAM, Display card, MB, and HD).
I am looking for best value for performance.

My usage pattern
7x24 personal website (apache + mysql, low hit rate) importance : low
couple times a week. Video encoding mainly to MPEG(sometimes MPEG-II) importance low.
every day Watch avi importance: average.
regular coding , compiling etc importance :average
Gaming fequency low, only if I buy a good game, around once or twice a year, but would like a mid range graphic card. I bought a MX4xxx card 4 years ago and cannot play most of the new games, I do not want that to happen again. importance : high
Some minor photo retouching (2-3MB photos from DC).
sometimes Video capture from handycam

Other requirements
onboard LAN and Audio, at least 2 USB
Graphics card with 256 RAM no SLI or Crossfire

Also my normal desktop screen res is 1280x1024 if it is any importance.

I should mention stability and compatibility is of great importance. I do video encoding and have website so I do not want random reboots and ram problems if system gets too hot or runs for too long.

I will not overclock my system.

I think if it runs most of todays 3D games at high resolutions and detail at a playable rate (20-30 fps) I will be statisfied, Video encoding speed is not of high importance as I am sure it will be better than my 4 year old system anyway.

initial thoughts on
AMD 64 3200+
nForce4 chipset MB
2x1G RAM
256MB Graphics card around X800 or 6800 GT range

Please post you ideas, with make and model of hardware.

BTW mention what power supply power I need (watts)

Thanks in advance

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April 28, 2006 9:39:07 AM
April 28, 2006 9:52:58 AM

Hey! i got a very good offer on this rig i configure. A Much faster PC than the one configure obove this one.

this is an Gaming, Entertainment, Multimedia .Video Editing.video encoding pc. U wont find this prices, at a local best buy or other electronic store.
This Dual Cores are perfect for Video Editing and Encoding, do more in less time. Also experince ATI AVIVO, view your movies files in HD. Also connects
to a HD TV DISPLAY

some of the links might not show the hardware since they update daily. If does not, just visit the store official website and search for the hardware.

Asus A8N-SLI Mainboar
AMD Athlon 64 4200 Dual Cores
Corsair 1024 GB PC3200 DDR DIMM
Seagate Barracuda ST3160023AS 160GB Hard Drive
ATI All-In-Wonder 2006 Edition Radeon X1300 256 mb Video Card built in TV TUNER PVR
Power Supply-ThermalTake 430W
DVD-Rom-NEC ND-3550A Dual Layer DVD±RW Writer
Cooler Master CAC-T05UW Centurion 5 Black/Silver Mid Tower



Motherboard;Asus A8N-SLI Mainboard $115.83
http://www.ajump.com/ajump/product.asp?pf%5Fid=0640159&...

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core Processor $354.95
http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/details.asp?PRDCOD...;REFI

Memory:Corsair 1GB PC3200 DDR DIMM Memory $102.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Hard Seagate Barracuda ST3160023AS 160GB Hard Drive $75.26
http://www.buydeal.com/MfrListingDescription.jsp?ListId...

Video Card:ATI All-In-Wonder 2006 Edition Radeon X1300 Video Card $171.99
http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/details.asp?PRDCOD...;REFI


Power Supply-ThermalTake Thermatalke TR2 W0070RUC 430W Power Supply $37.88
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

DVD-Rom-NEC ND-3550A Dual Layer DVD±RW Writer - Black $43.34
http://www1.bottomdollar.com/p__NEC_ND_3550A_Dual_Layer...


Case:Cooler Master CAC-T05UW Centurion 5 Black/Silver Mid Tower $62.79
http://www.shopperexpo.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCo...



Extreme Fast w/ AMD 4200 Dual Cores

Total with tax and Shipping will be:

WITH NO MONITOR.

TOTAL: $964.63
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April 28, 2006 1:43:38 PM

Yeah X2 will be much better for movies buisness.
April 28, 2006 2:23:37 PM

Thanks everyone
I like rickpcnerd's suggestion.

Coming to think of it an X2 seems right, multi tasking my web server in the background.

I would like my budget for the Graphics card to be a bit higher, I see some 7800 GTs are going quite "cheap".

Anyway I think this looks like a great setup. I will investigate a bit more before I commit.
Thanks
April 28, 2006 6:58:48 PM

Quote:
Thanks everyone
I like rickpcnerd's suggestion.

Coming to think of it an X2 seems right, multi tasking my web server in the background.

I would like my budget for the Graphics card to be a bit higher, I see some 7800 GTs are going quite "cheap".

Anyway I think this looks like a great setup. I will investigate a bit more before I commit.
Thanks


DO NOT get the motherboard Rick suggested. That board causes nothing but issues. It the worst board Asus sells. Since you are never going to use SLI get the Asus A8N-E for $89 and pick up a PCI firewire card if you need it. Or get the superior DFI Lanparty Ultra D for $122.
April 28, 2006 11:59:44 PM

Quote:
Power Supply-ThermalTake Thermatalke TR2 W0070RUC 430W Power Supply $37.88
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

For a couple of bucks more, step up to a higher quality dual-rail PS unit

SPARKLE ATX-400PN-B204 ATX 12V 2.0 400W
+3.3@30A,+5V@28A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@2.0A
$41 shipped @ ewiz

Even though it is rated at 400 it puts out more juice, I have the FSP 450W version (same exact unit as SPI 400) as well as TT TR2 430W and TT-420AD almost no comparison.

Rick, you have to give SPI and FSP a try very well made w/ quality components.
April 29, 2006 12:53:07 AM

Quote:
Power Supply-ThermalTake Thermatalke TR2 W0070RUC 430W Power Supply $37.88
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?Product...

For a couple of bucks more, step up to a higher quality dual-rail PS unit

SPARKLE ATX-400PN-B204 ATX 12V 2.0 400W
+3.3@30A,+5V@28A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@2.0A
$41 shipped @ ewiz

Even though it is rated at 400 it puts out more juice, I have the FSP 450W version (same exact unit as SPI 400) as well as TT TR2 430W and TT-420AD almost no comparison.

Rick, you have to give SPI and FSP a try very well made w/ quality components.

I have never heard of Sparkle of eWiz. I stick to name brands; I own the TR2 430W, and I'm very pleased with it. I only purchase from newegg.

Stick with the dual core, but if you're gaming, the X1300 and 6800XT suck. Get the 3800+ rather than the 4200+, and use the money that you saved to get a better graphics card.

Don't waste your money getting an SLI board. I like the DFI nF4-DAGF; $79 from newegg.

That's $90 saved on the CPU and motherboard.
April 29, 2006 1:10:04 AM

Quote:
I have never heard of Sparkle of eWiz. I stick to name brands

SPI / Sparkle basically are FSP / Fortron units that are rebranded since FSP owns SPI... or something like that.

Regardless, they share the same manufacturer / components that is why the specs are identical.

Search FSP on the forums they are well recommended for good reason. Any purchasing / logistics person will tell you they have a very low return rate and customer service have issued RMA no questions asked. TT is a different story, incredibly difficult to RMA from my experience.
April 29, 2006 1:11:51 AM

Better yet, HERE'S a newegg shopping cart with a new list of components. Total of $963, which leaves just enough for the shipping. It doesn't include Windows, though.
April 29, 2006 1:14:27 AM

Just a couple general points for you.

1) If it's going to be running 24x7 I would suggest looking for passive cooling on the chip set. Hate those pesky fans dying. Might mean going for an SLI board but doesn't mean you have to use it.

2) Think Opteron. It might cost a little more but has a much nicer boxed heat sink, and higher quality silicon.

3) a 6800 or x800 isn't going to last you for 4 years, 7900 or 1800 would be closer.
April 29, 2006 4:26:58 AM

Quote:
I know my requirements but dont know what to buy.
I am not interested in future upgrades. I tend to buy now, use 3-4 years and buy new computer. However, adding HD should be an option.
My budget not over $1000 for core system (CPU, RAM, Display card, MB, and HD).
I am looking for best value for performance.

My usage pattern
7x24 personal website (apache + mysql, low hit rate) importance : low
couple times a week. Video encoding mainly to MPEG(sometimes MPEG-II) importance low.
every day Watch avi importance: average.
regular coding , compiling etc importance :average
Gaming fequency low, only if I buy a good game, around once or twice a year, but would like a mid range graphic card. I bought a MX4xxx card 4 years ago and cannot play most of the new games, I do not want that to happen again. importance : high
Some minor photo retouching (2-3MB photos from DC).
sometimes Video capture from handycam

Other requirements
onboard LAN and Audio, at least 2 USB
Graphics card with 256 RAM no SLI or Crossfire

Also my normal desktop screen res is 1280x1024 if it is any importance.

I should mention stability and compatibility is of great importance. I do video encoding and have website so I do not want random reboots and ram problems if system gets too hot or runs for too long.

I will not overclock my system.

I think if it runs most of todays 3D games at high resolutions and detail at a playable rate (20-30 fps) I will be statisfied, Video encoding speed is not of high importance as I am sure it will be better than my 4 year old system anyway.

initial thoughts on
AMD 64 3200+
nForce4 chipset MB
2x1G RAM
256MB Graphics card around X800 or 6800 GT range

Please post you ideas, with make and model of hardware.

BTW mention what power supply power I need (watts)

Thanks in advance



MY initial thoughts on
AMD 64 3800+ X2 or better
nForce4 chipset MB
minimum 2x1G RAM Corsair
128 MB Graphics card around ATI ASUS X700 as there is really no need for the better one

I faced similar problem as I do not give a rib about overclocking or upgrading.

I got my system anmd are very satisfied (No SLI with SLI Board with a reason):

Power supply (the single most important componnent of PC!) 24 pin (20+4)

Enermax EG701AX-VE SFMA (150.00 U$)



Power Supply calculator 2

Power Supply calculator 2

Power Supply calculator 3

CPU AMD ATHLON 64 X2 best you can get for the money. ( I went for 3800+ in August last year) you can get better if you have spare greengo greens.

MoBo nVidia nForce 4 socket 939 ASUS A8N SLI Premium (fanless !!!

A8N SLI Premium

(8 SATA ports) 2 RAIDs (Sil Image 3114 is soft RAID is not not my preference).
When choosing MoBo it is worth to take best as the extras which are provided with provide additional savings. (i.e. external SATA PORTS!) really very usefull!

Case Lian Li Aluminum PC 6200 (with removeable tray)

RAM here I would suggest no less than 2 GB Corsair or OCZ low latency

Hard disk drives Hitachi SATA 10 250 MB (300)
(I have total of 10 hard disk drives installed 8 SATA + 2 PATA)

4 x 250 GB, 4 x160GB, 2 x 60 (PATA)

Video ASUS ATI X700-X 128 MB - more than satisfactory with Digital D-DVI (99.00 U$)

best place to buy in US:

eWiz

I am very satisfied with the system performance and I am on the budget!

My PC usage is a like or equal to yours.


Additionaly PROXIM wireless Access Point AP-4000

Proxim wireless

Proxim client

In my opinion the graphic card doen't have to be the best as the costs of cards is falling.
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