Networking and Phantom Drive Problems.

LarryS

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Greetings,

I have two new Win98 problems which are giving me no end of grief.

I have a small home network with two (was three) systems connected to each
other and broadband via a router. The three-system setup had XP running on
two (my primary and my wife's) and XP and Win98 SE dual-boot on the third
(my old system). On that third system, XP was installed on its first HDD
and Win98 on the second; and all work just fine - all three systems could
share files and use the internet.

However, the third system failed (BIOS/motherboard/CPU/unknown problem), so
I moved the second HDD (with Win98) in to my primary XP system. As it is a
newer system, I downloaded all new motherboard and adapter drivers for Win98
(using XP). To make it easier, after copying the new drivers to a W98
FAT32 partition, I disconnected the first drive (with XP) and connected the
Win98 drive as the master and only drive.

After many restarts, I was able to get most the Win98 functions running.
Except for the network. When first starting up, I get the following error
message: Microsoft Networking Protocol 1 Error 254. This is before the
login screen. Clicking OK lets the boot sequence finish, but with no
network or internet function. Interestingly, on my wife's XP system,
Network Neighbourhood sees and can transfer files to and from a shared
folder on the Win98 system. Network Neighbourhood on the Win98 system just
endlessly searches. Internet Explorer and FireFox both crash as soon as a
web site is selected, and the anti-virus program cannot get its automatic
update. Zone Alarm (which worked in the old system) has been removed from
the operating environment. All the appropriate adapters and protocols
(TCP/IP, etc) are installed. However, attempting to install Active Sync
fails, reporting that TCP/IP must be installed first.

I have rerun setup to see if that would clear the problem, and reinstalled
the adapter drivers and protocols, but with no luck. This problem exists in
both the sole-Win98 and XP/Win98 dual-boot setups. Is there a registry
setting or some such that needs to be 'tweaked'? I have not reformatted the
Win98 C: partition and did a 'from scratch' installation and hope to avoid
having to do so as there are quite a number of applications that would also
have to be reinstalled.

My second problem is a phantom partition identifying itself as D: had
appeared. I have three FAT32 partitions (C:, D:, and E:), all 15Gb in size.
As is the phantom D:. XP reports just the three 'real' partitions and
Acronis Disk Director reports just the three (in both XP and Win98). Any
folder I place in the phantom D: doesn't appear in any XP or 'real' Win98
partition. How do I remove the phantom?

Your help would be most appreciated.

Thank you
Larry S
 

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"LarryS" <raglan@orange.net> wrote in message
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> Greetings,
>
> I have two new Win98 problems which are giving me no end of grief.
>
> I have a small home network with two (was three) systems connected to each
> other and broadband via a router. The three-system setup had XP running
> on two (my primary and my wife's) and XP and Win98 SE dual-boot on the
> third (my old system). On that third system, XP was installed on its
> first HDD and Win98 on the second; and all work just fine - all three
> systems could share files and use the internet.
>
> However, the third system failed (BIOS/motherboard/CPU/unknown problem),
> so I moved the second HDD (with Win98) in to my primary XP system. As it
> is a newer system, I downloaded all new motherboard and adapter drivers
> for Win98 (using XP). To make it easier, after copying the new drivers
> to a W98 FAT32 partition, I disconnected the first drive (with XP) and
> connected the Win98 drive as the master and only drive.
>
> After many restarts, I was able to get most the Win98 functions running.
> Except for the network. When first starting up, I get the following
> error message: Microsoft Networking Protocol 1 Error 254. This is before
> the login screen. Clicking OK lets the boot sequence finish, but with no
> network or internet function. Interestingly, on my wife's XP system,
> Network Neighbourhood sees and can transfer files to and from a shared
> folder on the Win98 system. Network Neighbourhood on the Win98 system
> just endlessly searches. Internet Explorer and FireFox both crash as soon
> as a web site is selected, and the anti-virus program cannot get its
> automatic update. Zone Alarm (which worked in the old system) has been
> removed from the operating environment. All the appropriate adapters and
> protocols (TCP/IP, etc) are installed. However, attempting to install
> Active Sync fails, reporting that TCP/IP must be installed first.
>
> I have rerun setup to see if that would clear the problem, and reinstalled
> the adapter drivers and protocols, but with no luck. This problem exists
> in both the sole-Win98 and XP/Win98 dual-boot setups. Is there a registry
> setting or some such that needs to be 'tweaked'? I have not reformatted
> the Win98 C: partition and did a 'from scratch' installation and hope to
> avoid having to do so as there are quite a number of applications that
> would also have to be reinstalled.
>
> My second problem is a phantom partition identifying itself as D: had
> appeared. I have three FAT32 partitions (C:, D:, and E:), all 15Gb in
> size. As is the phantom D:. XP reports just the three 'real' partitions
> and Acronis Disk Director reports just the three (in both XP and Win98).
> Any folder I place in the phantom D: doesn't appear in any XP or 'real'
> Win98 partition. How do I remove the phantom?
>
> Your help would be most appreciated.
>
> Thank you
> Larry S
>

boot win98 to safe mode and remove all references to network adapters under
control panel>system>device manager
then reboot to normal win98 and reinstall....

so you say you now have "another" D: drive ?
 

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"Haggis" <bingsnapREMOVE@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
....
>>
>
> boot win98 to safe mode and remove all references to network adapters
> under control panel>system>device manager
> then reboot to normal win98 and reinstall....
>
> so you say you now have "another" D: drive ?
>Haggis, many thanks for you quick response. Unfortunately, removal of the
>adapter in Safe Mode and reinstallation did not fix the problem. I tried
>all combinations of reinstallation (let system search, run Intel's updated
>driver, etc.) and all combinations of protocols. But to no avail. It did
>eliminate the start-up error message (related to one of the protocols) and
>IE doesn't seem to crash any more, it just doesn't see the internet.

As for the phantom D: partition, it leaves E: as E:, but moves the real D:
to F: and pushes the CDs out to G: and H:.

None of this makes absolutely sense to me.

Cheers
Larry S
 

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"LarryS" <raglan@orange.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Haggis" <bingsnapREMOVE@THIShotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uv1unORbFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>
> ...
>>>
>>
>> boot win98 to safe mode and remove all references to network adapters
>> under control panel>system>device manager
>> then reboot to normal win98 and reinstall....
>>
>> so you say you now have "another" D: drive ?
>>Haggis, many thanks for you quick response. Unfortunately, removal of
>>the adapter in Safe Mode and reinstallation did not fix the problem. I
>>tried all combinations of reinstallation (let system search, run Intel's
>>updated driver, etc.) and all combinations of protocols. But to no avail.
>>It did eliminate the start-up error message (related to one of the
>>protocols) and IE doesn't seem to crash any more, it just doesn't see the
>>internet.
>
> As for the phantom D: partition, it leaves E: as E:, but moves the real D:
> to F: and pushes the CDs out to G: and H:.
>
> None of this makes absolutely sense to me.
>
> Cheers
> Larry S
>

good that the error went away....did you completely uninstall zone alarm ?
(and any other firewall software...are you using a "hosts" file? )

have you run fdisk to check what it says about your partitions ?
 

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Not fdisk, but Acronis Disk Director. I am wondering if it is related to
reassigning under XP the drive letters on both HDDs to the have C:, D:, and
E: on the first HDD and F: to K: on the seond HDD. F:, G:, and H: are
Win98's C:, D: an E: FAT32 drives. I will try fdisk to see what it reports.

I reformatted Win98's C: and did a complete reinstall of Win98 and finally
got the netowk connection working, so it is only the phantom drive that is a
problem.

Cheers
Larry S

> have you run fdisk to check what it says about your partitions ?
>