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I have an older MS wheel mouse, no software. Want to use it with W98Se.

The MS download site has the latest version, but ONLY with the msi
installer, which I don't use.

Can someone direct me to a URL where I can download any older version for
the wheel mouse, with an old Install Shield or similar installer?

Or, I have already a Logitech wheel mouse, does the same software work?

TIA

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Go here for the Intellimouse 2.2a driver download:
http://members.driverguide.com/dri [...] erid=65996

Click the link to "Download this file":
http://members.driverguide.com/dri [...] erid=65996

If it asks for a username/password, use drivers/all
If it brings up a page to register now, scroll down and click the link to bypass
that and "Continue on the site".
On the download page, verify, then select the hard drive as the destination, and
download the driver setup. When the download is done, double-click the
"Intellimouse2.2.exe" file to begin the installation.
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"ms" <ms@nospa.com> wrote in message news:3h34cqFet5ctU1@individual.net...
> I have an older MS wheel mouse, no software. Want to use it with W98Se.
>
> The MS download site has the latest version, but ONLY with the msi
> installer, which I don't use.
>
> Can someone direct me to a URL where I can download any older version for
> the wheel mouse, with an old Install Shield or similar installer?
>
> Or, I have already a Logitech wheel mouse, does the same software work?
>
> TIA

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glee wrote:
> Go here for the Intellimouse 2.2a driver download:
> http://members.driverguide.com/dri [...] erid=65996
>
> Click the link to "Download this file":
> http://members.driverguide.com/dri [...] erid=65996
>
> If it asks for a username/password, use drivers/all
> If it brings up a page to register now, scroll down and click the link to bypass
> that and "Continue on the site".
> On the download page, verify, then select the hard drive as the destination, and
> download the driver setup. When the download is done, double-click the
> "Intellimouse2.2.exe" file to begin the installation.

Many thanks, Glen for the help.

That website is a DOG. Once before, I fought through those pages to a
temporary page, entered the file name, it found it and I got it. Not today.
I tried drivers/all, it did not accept it as a password. So I went to the
"when nothing else works" page again, entered Intellimouse2.2a.exe, no
luck. I tried Intellimouse2.2, I tried Intellimouse2.2 driver, no luck, it
kept timing out, even tried older database at that site.

Maybe it doesen't like my Firefox browser, but it worked a month ago.

Advice?

Mike

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Dunno what to tell you.....I just downloaded it here, before I told you how to do
it, to make sure it still worked.

The password is not drivers/all....the username is drivers; the password is all. I
just used that today, and have been for a couple of years. It may be a problem
between your ISP and their server.

Give me a valid email address and I will email you a .zip attachment with version
2.2f setup...it's a little newer than 2.2a. The zipped file size is 1,170KB
If you don't want to post an email addy here, email me privately at:
glen.vee @ gmail dot com
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"ms" <ms@nospa.com> wrote in message news:3h41kjFf6psrU1@individual.net...
> glee wrote:
> > Go here for the Intellimouse 2.2a driver download:
> > http://members.driverguide.com/dri [...] erid=65996
> >
> > Click the link to "Download this file":
> > http://members.driverguide.com/dri [...] erid=65996
> >
> > If it asks for a username/password, use drivers/all
> > If it brings up a page to register now, scroll down and click the link to bypass
> > that and "Continue on the site".
> > On the download page, verify, then select the hard drive as the destination, and
> > download the driver setup. When the download is done, double-click the
> > "Intellimouse2.2.exe" file to begin the installation.
>
> Many thanks, Glen for the help.
>
> That website is a DOG. Once before, I fought through those pages to a
> temporary page, entered the file name, it found it and I got it. Not today.
> I tried drivers/all, it did not accept it as a password. So I went to the
> "when nothing else works" page again, entered Intellimouse2.2a.exe, no
> luck. I tried Intellimouse2.2, I tried Intellimouse2.2 driver, no luck, it
> kept timing out, even tried older database at that site.
>
> Maybe it doesen't like my Firefox browser, but it worked a month ago.
>
> Advice?
>
> Mike

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ms wrote:
> I have an older MS wheel mouse, no software. Want to use it with
> W98Se.
>
> The MS download site has the latest version, but ONLY with the msi
> installer, which I don't use.
>
> Can someone direct me to a URL where I can download any older version
> for the wheel mouse, with an old Install Shield or similar installer?
>
> Or, I have already a Logitech wheel mouse, does the same software
> work?
>
> TIA

I have a corded Intellimouse Optical 5 button mouse. I use Kensington
Mouseworks, downloadable here:

http://www.kensington.com/html/1466.html

This is THE best software for 5 button Intellimouse, IMO. The last
Intellipoint driver crippled the 5 button functionality for Windows 98
users.

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Roger Fink wrote:
> ms wrote:
>
>>I have an older MS wheel mouse, no software. Want to use it with
>>W98Se.
>>
>>The MS download site has the latest version, but ONLY with the msi
>>installer, which I don't use.
>>
>>Can someone direct me to a URL where I can download any older version
>>for the wheel mouse, with an old Install Shield or similar installer?
>>
>>Or, I have already a Logitech wheel mouse, does the same software
>>work?
>>
>>TIA
>
>
> I have a corded Intellimouse Optical 5 button mouse. I use Kensington
> Mouseworks, downloadable here:
>
> http://www.kensington.com/html/1466.html
>
> This is THE best software for 5 button Intellimouse, IMO. The last
> Intellipoint driver crippled the 5 button functionality for Windows 98
> users.
>
Guess I don't understand- mine is not an optical mouse, but 2 buttons and a
wheel are not 5 buttons?

Commment?

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glee wrote:
> Dunno what to tell you.....I just downloaded it here, before I told you how to do
> it, to make sure it still worked.
>
> The password is not drivers/all....the username is drivers; the password is all. I
> just used that today, and have been for a couple of years. It may be a problem
> between your ISP and their server.
>
> Give me a valid email address and I will email you a .zip attachment with version
> 2.2f setup...it's a little newer than 2.2a. The zipped file size is 1,170KB
> If you don't want to post an email addy here, email me privately at:
> glen.vee @ gmail dot com

Now that I have the password correct, it works, downloading now. I hope
that version 2.2a will work for any MS older wheel mouse.

Thanks for the help.

Mike

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ms wrote:
> Roger Fink wrote:
>> ms wrote:
>>
>>> I have an older MS wheel mouse, no software. Want to use it with
>>> W98Se.
>>>
>>> The MS download site has the latest version, but ONLY with the msi
>>> installer, which I don't use.
>>>
>>> Can someone direct me to a URL where I can download any older
>>> version for the wheel mouse, with an old Install Shield or similar
>>> installer?
>>>
>>> Or, I have already a Logitech wheel mouse, does the same software
>>> work?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>>
>> I have a corded Intellimouse Optical 5 button mouse. I use Kensington
>> Mouseworks, downloadable here:
>>
>> http://www.kensington.com/html/1466.html
>>
>> This is THE best software for 5 button Intellimouse, IMO. The last
>> Intellipoint driver crippled the 5 button functionality for Windows
>> 98 users.
>>
> Guess I don't understand- mine is not an optical mouse, but 2 buttons
> and a wheel are not 5 buttons?
>
> Commment?

Sure.

I figured that was the most complex "old-time" Microsoft mouse (5 buttons,
all programmable) that Mouseworks would have to run. Since it never froze or
crashed even once during the three or so years I've used it, I thought it
was worth suggesting. Also, you mentioned Logitech, so I figured you were
considering alternatives.

Question - why not just rely on the pre-loaded generic driver for a three
button mouse?

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Roger Fink wrote:
> ms wrote:
>
>>Roger Fink wrote:
>>
>>>ms wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have an older MS wheel mouse, no software. Want to use it with
>>>>W98Se.
>>>>
>>>>The MS download site has the latest version, but ONLY with the msi
>>>>installer, which I don't use.
>>>>
>>>>Can someone direct me to a URL where I can download any older
>>>>version for the wheel mouse, with an old Install Shield or similar
>>>>installer?
>>>>
>>>>Or, I have already a Logitech wheel mouse, does the same software
>>>>work?
>>>>
>>>>TIA
>>>
>>>
>>>I have a corded Intellimouse Optical 5 button mouse. I use Kensington
>>>Mouseworks, downloadable here:
>>>
>>>http://www.kensington.com/html/1466.html
>>>
>>>This is THE best software for 5 button Intellimouse, IMO. The last
>>>Intellipoint driver crippled the 5 button functionality for Windows
>>>98 users.
>>>
>>
>>Guess I don't understand- mine is not an optical mouse, but 2 buttons
>> and a wheel are not 5 buttons?
>>
>>Commment?
>
>
> Sure.
>
> I figured that was the most complex "old-time" Microsoft mouse (5 buttons,
> all programmable) that Mouseworks would have to run. Since it never froze or
> crashed even once during the three or so years I've used it, I thought it
> was worth suggesting. Also, you mentioned Logitech, so I figured you were
> considering alternatives.
>
> Question - why not just rely on the pre-loaded generic driver for a three
> button mouse?
>
>
This is 2 buttons and a wheel. I guess the wheel would take different
software than the old simple 3- button mouse.

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ms wrote:
> Roger Fink wrote:
>> ms wrote:
>>
>>> Roger Fink wrote:
>>>
>>>> ms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have an older MS wheel mouse, no software. Want to use it with
>>>>> W98Se.
>>>>>
>>>>> The MS download site has the latest version, but ONLY with the msi
>>>>> installer, which I don't use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone direct me to a URL where I can download any older
>>>>> version for the wheel mouse, with an old Install Shield or similar
>>>>> installer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, I have already a Logitech wheel mouse, does the same software
>>>>> work?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a corded Intellimouse Optical 5 button mouse. I use
>>>> Kensington Mouseworks, downloadable here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kensington.com/html/1466.html
>>>>
>>>> This is THE best software for 5 button Intellimouse, IMO. The last
>>>> Intellipoint driver crippled the 5 button functionality for Windows
>>>> 98 users.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Guess I don't understand- mine is not an optical mouse, but 2
>>> buttons and a wheel are not 5 buttons?
>>>
>>> Commment?
>>
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> I figured that was the most complex "old-time" Microsoft mouse (5
>> buttons, all programmable) that Mouseworks would have to run. Since
>> it never froze or crashed even once during the three or so years
>> I've used it, I thought it was worth suggesting. Also, you mentioned
>> Logitech, so I figured you were considering alternatives.
>>
>> Question - why not just rely on the pre-loaded generic driver for a
>> three button mouse?
>>
>>
> This is 2 buttons and a wheel. I guess the wheel would take different
> software than the old simple 3- button mouse.

I think that's just a different way of describing the same mouse. As I
recall the generic driver will allow you to manually scroll by rotating the
wheel, but it may require additional software, Intellipoint or other, to
activate autoscroll.

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If you are using a simple two-button/wheel mouse, you don't need to install any
Intellipoint software at all....Win98 has drivers built in for those mice. Simply
plug in your wheel mouse, start the computer, and let Windows detect the mouse and
install the driver.
--
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http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"ms" <ms@nospa.com> wrote in message news:3h6ed3Ffik4qU2@individual.net...
> Roger Fink wrote:
> > ms wrote:
> >
> >>Roger Fink wrote:
> >>
> >>>ms wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I have an older MS wheel mouse, no software. Want to use it with
> >>>>W98Se.
> >>>>
> >>>>The MS download site has the latest version, but ONLY with the msi
> >>>>installer, which I don't use.
> >>>>
> >>>>Can someone direct me to a URL where I can download any older
> >>>>version for the wheel mouse, with an old Install Shield or similar
> >>>>installer?
> >>>>
> >>>>Or, I have already a Logitech wheel mouse, does the same software
> >>>>work?
> >>>>
> >>>>TIA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I have a corded Intellimouse Optical 5 button mouse. I use Kensington
> >>>Mouseworks, downloadable here:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.kensington.com/html/1466.html
> >>>
> >>>This is THE best software for 5 button Intellimouse, IMO. The last
> >>>Intellipoint driver crippled the 5 button functionality for Windows
> >>>98 users.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Guess I don't understand- mine is not an optical mouse, but 2 buttons
> >> and a wheel are not 5 buttons?
> >>
> >>Commment?
> >
> >
> > Sure.
> >
> > I figured that was the most complex "old-time" Microsoft mouse (5 buttons,
> > all programmable) that Mouseworks would have to run. Since it never froze or
> > crashed even once during the three or so years I've used it, I thought it
> > was worth suggesting. Also, you mentioned Logitech, so I figured you were
> > considering alternatives.
> >
> > Question - why not just rely on the pre-loaded generic driver for a three
> > button mouse?
> >
> >
> This is 2 buttons and a wheel. I guess the wheel would take different
> software than the old simple 3- button mouse.

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glee wrote:
> If you are using a simple two-button/wheel mouse, you don't need to install any
> Intellipoint software at all....Win98 has drivers built in for those mice. Simply
> plug in your wheel mouse, start the computer, and let Windows detect the mouse and
> install the driver.

Thanks to all.

BTW, on a different computer, a more basic mouse question on an old, wired
2-button mouse. The mouse connection is the small rectangular connector and
a used mouse. I cleaned the mouse ball and pad without taking it apart.
Still, it frequently needs to be lifted, shaken, then set down to move the
cursor. Mouse action is not very smooth.

What is typically wrong? Just dirty?

How to take the mouse apart?

Also, I have one other similar mouse with that connector, an awkward mouse
shape, so only a backup. When connected, the cursor moves about an inch,
no more. This is also a simple mouse, surely W98SE generic drivers should
work on a basic 2-button mouse, is this simply a dirty mouse?

TIA

Mike

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"ms" <ms@nospa.com> wrote in message news:3h8942Fft5u6U1@individual.net...
> glee wrote:
>> If you are using a simple two-button/wheel mouse, you don't need to
>> install any
>> Intellipoint software at all....Win98 has drivers built in for those
>> mice. Simply
>> plug in your wheel mouse, start the computer, and let Windows detect the
>> mouse and
>> install the driver.
>
> Thanks to all.

> BTW, on a different computer, a more basic mouse question on an old, wired
> 2-button mouse. The mouse connection is the small rectangular connector
> and a used mouse. I cleaned the mouse ball and pad without taking it
> apart. Still, it frequently needs to be lifted, shaken, then set down to
> move the cursor. Mouse action is not very smooth.
>
> What is typically wrong? Just dirty?

Probably dirty and/or bad sensor(s)

> How to take the mouse apart?

usually 3 or 4 screws underneith ...but some I've seen have a snap apart
type of thing going...careful you don't snap! too hard :>

> Also, I have one other similar mouse with that connector, an awkward mouse
> shape, so only a backup. When connected, the cursor moves about an inch,
> no more. This is also a simple mouse, surely W98SE generic drivers should
> work on a basic 2-button mouse, is this simply a dirty mouse?

generic mouse drivers should be fine ...probably just dirty/faulty mouse

> TIA
>
> Mike

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Take the bottom ball cover off and remove the ball. Have a look at the wheels
inside where the ball rests and see if they have any buildup on them. The can be
cleaned easily with a pin, nail file, paper clip, etc. Be careful not to scratch
them up when removing any buildup as that would make it easier for more buildup
to grab hold.

Otherwise remove a screw, 2 or 3 on the bottom and if it doesn't separate, have
a good look along the seam for spots where it clips together. Take care in
pulling it apart and try not to let any parts fall out that you will have to
play a guessing game on where they came from and go back to properly.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"ms" <ms@nospa.com> wrote in message news:3h8942Fft5u6U1@individual.net...
> glee wrote:
>> If you are using a simple two-button/wheel mouse, you don't need to install
>> any
>> Intellipoint software at all....Win98 has drivers built in for those mice.
>> Simply
>> plug in your wheel mouse, start the computer, and let Windows detect the
>> mouse and
>> install the driver.
>
> Thanks to all.
>
> BTW, on a different computer, a more basic mouse question on an old, wired
> 2-button mouse. The mouse connection is the small rectangular connector and a
> used mouse. I cleaned the mouse ball and pad without taking it apart. Still,
> it frequently needs to be lifted, shaken, then set down to move the cursor.
> Mouse action is not very smooth.
>
> What is typically wrong? Just dirty?
>
> How to take the mouse apart?
>
> Also, I have one other similar mouse with that connector, an awkward mouse
> shape, so only a backup. When connected, the cursor moves about an inch, no
> more. This is also a simple mouse, surely W98SE generic drivers should work on
> a basic 2-button mouse, is this simply a dirty mouse?
>
> TIA
>
> Mike

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on old mouses(grin) the problem is not usually on the ball, there is a build
up of sludge on the small rollers the ball rolls against inside the housing
remove the ball and flick off the Yuk with a fingernail until the encoder
rollers and the pressure roller that holds the ball against the encoder
rollers are clean

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"ms" <ms@nospa.com> wrote in message news:3h8942Fft5u6U1@individual.net...
> glee wrote:
> > If you are using a simple two-button/wheel mouse, you don't need to
install any
> > Intellipoint software at all....Win98 has drivers built in for those
mice. Simply
> > plug in your wheel mouse, start the computer, and let Windows detect the
mouse and
> > install the driver.
>
> Thanks to all.
>
> BTW, on a different computer, a more basic mouse question on an old, wired
> 2-button mouse. The mouse connection is the small rectangular connector
and
> a used mouse. I cleaned the mouse ball and pad without taking it apart.
> Still, it frequently needs to be lifted, shaken, then set down to move
the
> cursor. Mouse action is not very smooth.
>
> What is typically wrong? Just dirty?
>
> How to take the mouse apart?
>
> Also, I have one other similar mouse with that connector, an awkward mouse
> shape, so only a backup. When connected, the cursor moves about an inch,
> no more. This is also a simple mouse, surely W98SE generic drivers should
> work on a basic 2-button mouse, is this simply a dirty mouse?
>
> TIA
>
> Mike

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Ya know, I had a mental block on rollers and called them wheels. Imagine a mouse
with wheels? <BSEG>

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"AlmostBob" <anonymous1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> on old mouses(grin) the problem is not usually on the ball, there is a build
> up of sludge on the small rollers the ball rolls against inside the housing
> remove the ball and flick off the Yuk with a fingernail until the encoder
> rollers and the pressure roller that holds the ball against the encoder
> rollers are clean

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Brian A. wrote:
> Take the bottom ball cover off and remove the ball. Have a look at the
> wheels inside where the ball rests and see if they have any buildup on
> them. The can be cleaned easily with a pin, nail file, paper clip, etc.
> Be careful not to scratch them up when removing any buildup as that
> would make it easier for more buildup to grab hold.
>
> Otherwise remove a screw, 2 or 3 on the bottom and if it doesn't
> separate, have a good look along the seam for spots where it clips
> together. Take care in pulling it apart and try not to let any parts
> fall out that you will have to play a guessing game on where they came
> from and go back to properly.
>

Thanks to all.
>have a good look along the seam for spots where it clips
> together.

That sentence led to this thread. On the backup mouse with bad form factor,
there are screws, no problem.

But the other mouse and my normal mouse have the usual hairline seam, it is
IMO impossible to see where it clips together.

This is what's missing in all the mouse cleaning data- *HOW* do you pry it
open without damaging the case? And do you open it upside down to avoid
loosing parts?

Please provide details.

Thanks,

Mike

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"ms" <ms@nospa.com> wrote in message news:3hb164Fg1mdaU1@individual.net...
> That sentence led to this thread. On the backup mouse with bad form factor,
> there are screws, no problem.
>
> But the other mouse and my normal mouse have the usual hairline seam, it is
> IMO impossible to see where it clips together.

Make sure there are no screws, I once thought one I had didn't until I found it
under a sticker.

>
> This is what's missing in all the mouse cleaning data- *HOW* do you pry it
> open without damaging the case? And do you open it upside down to avoid
> loosing parts?

I find it best to use finger nails pushing into the seam and running it along
the seam. It helps to split it enough to get a good feel or peak where the point
is less giving. IIRC you will find most in the rear or rear sides of the mouse.
Simply be gentle and you should be able to get it. Upside down or upright will
work, slowly pull it apart whrn loose and pek onside to see if you need to filp
it to keep interals internal.

>
> Please provide details.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike

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Thanks, Brian, I will try it.

Mike

Brian A. wrote:
> "ms" <ms@nospa.com> wrote in message news:3hb164Fg1mdaU1@individual.net...
>
>> That sentence led to this thread. On the backup mouse with bad form
>> factor, there are screws, no problem.
>>
>> But the other mouse and my normal mouse have the usual hairline seam,
>> it is IMO impossible to see where it clips together.
>
>
> Make sure there are no screws, I once thought one I had didn't until I
> found it under a sticker.
>
>>
>> This is what's missing in all the mouse cleaning data- *HOW* do you
>> pry it open without damaging the case? And do you open it upside down
>> to avoid loosing parts?
>
>
> I find it best to use finger nails pushing into the seam and running it
> along the seam. It helps to split it enough to get a good feel or peak
> where the point is less giving. IIRC you will find most in the rear or
> rear sides of the mouse. Simply be gentle and you should be able to get
> it. Upside down or upright will work, slowly pull it apart whrn loose
> and pek onside to see if you need to filp it to keep interals internal.
>
>>
>> Please provide details.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mike
>
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