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France at War

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January 15, 2013 4:38:57 PM

In case anyone hasnt heard France is engaged in a little bit of a conflict in Mali.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/15/us-mali-rebel...

First I would like to welcome them to the club, its been a while since anyone else has tried their hand at curbing terrorism. Good luck.

Secondly while this might seem like a smooth quick response that will put down the uprising fairly quickly I would like to remind you Americans were on a three hour tour of sorts in the middle east.... A decade later and it looks the same.

At least this puts out some fires on Hollande for appearing weak, at least right now.

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January 15, 2013 6:27:43 PM

Their secret service agent died along with another soldier while one is missing from the raid. I was reading on that a day or two ago.

Not often you hear what happens outside of the US.
January 15, 2013 7:08:56 PM

Wars and rumors of wars.
Sad times these are
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January 16, 2013 7:28:27 AM

riser said:
Their secret service agent died along with another soldier while one is missing from the raid. I was reading on that a day or two ago.

Not often you hear what happens outside of the US.


Indeed.
You're referring to events in Somalia when my country is at war in Mali.



Now the Islamists threaten to reprisals in the heart of France.
My opinion is that they will blow cheese.
January 16, 2013 11:07:12 AM

Whats sad is, these particular Islamists have killed more innocent Islamists than anyone in recent history, yet like bad politicians, they convince a great many people for their cause
January 16, 2013 11:42:57 AM

Do geopolitical lines matter anymore when fighting an idealogy without geopolitical lines?
January 16, 2013 12:00:37 PM

riser said:
Do geopolitical lines matter anymore when fighting an idealogy without geopolitical lines?

No is the Mecca of all answers here ;) 
January 16, 2013 1:08:11 PM

African isn't a country?!
January 17, 2013 12:45:47 PM

You stole my line sir ... I should have you whipped.

Actually the French appear to be doing the right thing.

I am worried for the workers on the Gas plant in Algeria... obviously their security force were not well prepared ... which is unusual for these sorts of operations.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/middle-east-live/2013/j...

The In Amenas gas field, jointly operated by British oil giant BP, Norway's Statoil and state-run Algerian energy firm Sonatrach, in eastern Algeria where Islamist militants are holding 41 foreign hostages

January 17, 2013 4:41:03 PM

Reports are they killed 35 hostages. 7 Americans still unaccounted for and status unknown.
From what I saw, looks like the helicopters killed both hostages and assailants.
January 17, 2013 4:50:33 PM

What in the hell was the rationale for opening fire on completely unknown targets....?

Its like the end of Die Hard when the FBI is running the numbers on casualties if they open fire on the hostages......

Sorry for the Die Hard reference, its just my favorite Christmas movie....
January 17, 2013 5:33:37 PM

I would guess they kill them now or let them get away. I read they were moving the hostages in a vehicle. They may not have known the hostages were in vehicles at the time of the strafing. News is still coming in on it. Not everyone has the same code of conduct when dealing with these situations I guess.
January 17, 2013 8:40:00 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
We are in a dozen different African countries. France needs to catch up!!


laughing. :D 
January 18, 2013 12:47:38 AM

This is hardly mentioned here, as guns have the agenda.
The MSM has once again dropped the ball (akin to Benghazi)
Thanks for those links
I try watching the news here, but so far its about guns, and I turn it off.
January 18, 2013 11:28:49 AM

I read in a reuters article that the Algerians blew up 4 jeeps full of hostages because the terrorists wanted to move them abroad.

I dont understand why we spend so much on our military that when something like this happens we cant just immediately fly 50 highly trained soldiers to take the reins from the Algerians.

So far (From what Ive read) American contributions are an unarmed drone and some consultants.
January 18, 2013 5:41:58 PM

Because unlike here, they have to live with them doing active atrocities time and again, and have simply decided to draw a few lines.
Its like I say, there is no talking to some people, when they hit you, you talk, they hit you again, again you talk, they hit you again...at some point, you hit back
January 18, 2013 9:04:07 PM

Its easy to see why these people are operating there, simply because they can.
The things they do, how people suffer, and the owners, the people of that country are fed up, and have to do whatever they can with what they do have.
Yes, we can assist, we can help, but until each country comes to the resolve they have there, it will continue, and even doing these things, theyll still try, the terrorists.
They have the right to defend their own country, and may not have the means to do it our way, all we can do is offer help
January 21, 2013 11:50:16 AM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
Wait a minute. I've heard you go on and on in this forum about how horrible it is for the USA has to be the world's 'policeman'. Where is that sentiment now?


It would send a message that we will go and retrieve Americans from any situation, it would bolster our confidence and make people think twice about kidnapping that obviously American tourist wearing flip flops in Spain.

Protecting (Rescuing) our citizens abroad is a part of what our military should be doing.
February 26, 2013 11:43:00 AM

One SAS copycat Deltaforce "Sabre" Squadron would not have been able to quell this quick enough to have saved more lives.

A, B, and C Squadron would have ... thats 270 special troups and 40 support and logistics staff.

How quickly could they have been mobilised to that plant? The US needs to have that sort of responce capability to deal with these larger threats.

Hence the local troups gave it a go ... with terrible results.

Other govts should be prepared to chip in and support legitimate actions too.

So far its usually the US who get asked (begged) to step in.

Sadly they also are the first to get blamed when things don't work out well.

I cenrtainly admire the French and US for stepping in ... the other Western nations should at least assist in some small way ...
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