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I have a broken hard drive from a IBM computer, and it has a legal
copy of Win98SE. It didn't come with a CD but rather had the CD copied
to the hard drive.

I would like to install Win98 on another computer, and so would it be
legal to use another CD and key, because we do own a legal key,
although proving it might be difficult <g>.

Jonathan
 
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I THINK, if you can pass a lie detector test on it, you will be OK, or
so Rolanda Watts once swore to me! Afterwards, attach the broken one as
a Slave or Secondary Master, & you may yet have access to it...

Naturally, the first consideration is whether there is room inside the
box. (Well, actually, there undoubtedly also are external possibilities,
but I know nothing of them.) So...

(1) What is your computer & model number?
(2) Do you have a manual to look through?

My book clearly showed every screw along the way. (I had to lift out the
power supply of my Compaq 7470 to get to the innards.) However, it is
possible to get by without it. There will be literature with the new
hard drive. There will be two wires to connect. One to a power connector
on the drive. The other will either be

(a) A cable going from the new drive directly to the motherboard (the
drive will become a Secondary Master) or

(b) A connector on the cable that already connects the Primary Master to
the motherboard will plug into the new drive (the new drive is a Slave).

Presuming the box is open & you have access...

(1) You must get the jumpers right, acc. to a diagram on the drive. The
new one may have a booklet, too. Different manufacturers/models have
different positions for the jumpers to say the same thing. A jumper is a
little, colorful, plastic covered device that will be placed over two
pins on the hard drive. Depending upon which pins it covers, the drive
is a Master, Slave, etc.

(a) Jumper the new drive as Slave, if you will plug it to the
cable holding the Primary Master.
Or set it as Master, if you will connect directly to the MB
with it's own cable.

(b) The Primary Master (the one you've already got in there),
especially if it's a Western Digital, may need to be changed to "Master
with slave", instead of "Master alone on cable". State the name/model of
the drive, if examining it's diagram doesn't make it clear. This drive
may need to be removed to see it's diagram. Likely, there are four
screws involved. Naturally, this won't apply, if the new drive is
connected to the motherboard, using it's own cable.

(c) If making a Slave, try plugging it into the free connector on
the cable. However, some computers may require that the Master & Slave
be in specific positions on the cable. (I believe my Slave is closest to
the motherboard on the cable, in the middle connector.)

If this is to be a Secondary Master, plug it into the free
slot on the motherboard. Examine the connector & the pins it is plugging
into. You will see the orientation that is required, by the parallel
lines on the side of the connector & slot. Once sure of that, give it a
push.

(d) Plug a free power connector into the new drive. There should be
some around. They will have two (three?) prongs only, obviously
different from the data connector.


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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jonathan Benedicto" <incorrect@no.server> wrote in message
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| I have a broken hard drive from a IBM computer, and it has a legal
| copy of Win98SE. It didn't come with a CD but rather had the CD copied
| to the hard drive.
|
| I would like to install Win98 on another computer, and so would it be
| legal to use another CD and key, because we do own a legal key,
| although proving it might be difficult <g>.
|
| Jonathan
|
|
|
 
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Well - do they use lie detectors at the courts? I'll try attaching it
as a slave - might work. Only thing is - it makes a frightful clacking
whenever I tried it before. Thank you for your instrucs on installing
hard drives - very detailed. However we actually know how to take a
machine apart totally and rebuild it(and the computer still works). My
brothers computer is a totally home-built one. The computer in
question that we are looking into installing Win98 on, is a Compaq
Deskpro. No room in it for more than one hard drive(unless you take
out the floppy) - because it's a desktop. But, I'll try the hard drive
in my brothers computer.

Thank you.

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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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>I THINK, if you can pass a lie detector test on it, you will be OK,
>or
> so Rolanda Watts once swore to me! Afterwards, attach the broken one
> as
> a Slave or Secondary Master, & you may yet have access to it...
>
> Naturally, the first consideration is whether there is room inside
> the
> box. (Well, actually, there undoubtedly also are external
> possibilities,
> but I know nothing of them.) So...
>
> (1) What is your computer & model number?
> (2) Do you have a manual to look through?
>
> My book clearly showed every screw along the way. (I had to lift out
> the
> power supply of my Compaq 7470 to get to the innards.) However, it
> is
> possible to get by without it. There will be literature with the new
> hard drive. There will be two wires to connect. One to a power
> connector
> on the drive. The other will either be
>
> (a) A cable going from the new drive directly to the motherboard
> (the
> drive will become a Secondary Master) or
>
> (b) A connector on the cable that already connects the Primary
> Master to
> the motherboard will plug into the new drive (the new drive is a
> Slave).
>
> Presuming the box is open & you have access...
>
> (1) You must get the jumpers right, acc. to a diagram on the drive.
> The
> new one may have a booklet, too. Different manufacturers/models have
> different positions for the jumpers to say the same thing. A jumper
> is a
> little, colorful, plastic covered device that will be placed over
> two
> pins on the hard drive. Depending upon which pins it covers, the
> drive
> is a Master, Slave, etc.
>
> (a) Jumper the new drive as Slave, if you will plug it to the
> cable holding the Primary Master.
> Or set it as Master, if you will connect directly to the
> MB
> with it's own cable.
>
> (b) The Primary Master (the one you've already got in there),
> especially if it's a Western Digital, may need to be changed to
> "Master
> with slave", instead of "Master alone on cable". State the
> name/model of
> the drive, if examining it's diagram doesn't make it clear. This
> drive
> may need to be removed to see it's diagram. Likely, there are four
> screws involved. Naturally, this won't apply, if the new drive is
> connected to the motherboard, using it's own cable.
>
> (c) If making a Slave, try plugging it into the free connector
> on
> the cable. However, some computers may require that the Master &
> Slave
> be in specific positions on the cable. (I believe my Slave is
> closest to
> the motherboard on the cable, in the middle connector.)
>
> If this is to be a Secondary Master, plug it into the free
> slot on the motherboard. Examine the connector & the pins it is
> plugging
> into. You will see the orientation that is required, by the parallel
> lines on the side of the connector & slot. Once sure of that, give
> it a
> push.
>
> (d) Plug a free power connector into the new drive. There should
> be
> some around. They will have two (three?) prongs only, obviously
> different from the data connector.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Jonathan Benedicto" <incorrect@no.server> wrote in message
> news:uhLv6pBdFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | I have a broken hard drive from a IBM computer, and it has a legal
> | copy of Win98SE. It didn't come with a CD but rather had the CD
> copied
> | to the hard drive.
> |
> | I would like to install Win98 on another computer, and so would it
> be
> | legal to use another CD and key, because we do own a legal key,
> | although proving it might be difficult <g>.
> |
> | Jonathan
> |
> |
> |
>
>
 
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You are welcome. I wouldn't go near a court. Go to Watts. Courts do
their swearing on stacks of bibles instead of pancakes! I do know, my
own HDD crash of 2001 was loud enough to put me through the ceiling.
YET, it continued to boot, after multiple noisy tries, & functioned
PERFECTLY for 20 minutes per boot. This continued for over a week. If
you get it working, copy your stuff off it quick. Good luck!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jonathan Benedicto" <incorrect@no.server> wrote in message
news:eopz%23ECdFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Well - do they use lie detectors at the courts? I'll try attaching it
| as a slave - might work. Only thing is - it makes a frightful clacking
| whenever I tried it before. Thank you for your instrucs on installing
| hard drives - very detailed. However we actually know how to take a
| machine apart totally and rebuild it(and the computer still works). My
| brothers computer is a totally home-built one. The computer in
| question that we are looking into installing Win98 on, is a Compaq
| Deskpro. No room in it for more than one hard drive(unless you take
| out the floppy) - because it's a desktop. But, I'll try the hard drive
| in my brothers computer.
|
| Thank you.
|
| --
|
| Jonathan
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23R%23yI9BdFHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| >I THINK, if you can pass a lie detector test on it, you will be OK,
| >or
| > so Rolanda Watts once swore to me! Afterwards, attach the broken one
| > as
| > a Slave or Secondary Master, & you may yet have access to it...
| >
| > Naturally, the first consideration is whether there is room inside
| > the
| > box. (Well, actually, there undoubtedly also are external
| > possibilities,
| > but I know nothing of them.) So...
| >
| > (1) What is your computer & model number?
| > (2) Do you have a manual to look through?
| >
| > My book clearly showed every screw along the way. (I had to lift out
| > the
| > power supply of my Compaq 7470 to get to the innards.) However, it
| > is
| > possible to get by without it. There will be literature with the new
| > hard drive. There will be two wires to connect. One to a power
| > connector
| > on the drive. The other will either be
| >
| > (a) A cable going from the new drive directly to the motherboard
| > (the
| > drive will become a Secondary Master) or
| >
| > (b) A connector on the cable that already connects the Primary
| > Master to
| > the motherboard will plug into the new drive (the new drive is a
| > Slave).
| >
| > Presuming the box is open & you have access...
| >
| > (1) You must get the jumpers right, acc. to a diagram on the drive.
| > The
| > new one may have a booklet, too. Different manufacturers/models have
| > different positions for the jumpers to say the same thing. A jumper
| > is a
| > little, colorful, plastic covered device that will be placed over
| > two
| > pins on the hard drive. Depending upon which pins it covers, the
| > drive
| > is a Master, Slave, etc.
| >
| > (a) Jumper the new drive as Slave, if you will plug it to the
| > cable holding the Primary Master.
| > Or set it as Master, if you will connect directly to the
| > MB
| > with it's own cable.
| >
| > (b) The Primary Master (the one you've already got in there),
| > especially if it's a Western Digital, may need to be changed to
| > "Master
| > with slave", instead of "Master alone on cable". State the
| > name/model of
| > the drive, if examining it's diagram doesn't make it clear. This
| > drive
| > may need to be removed to see it's diagram. Likely, there are four
| > screws involved. Naturally, this won't apply, if the new drive is
| > connected to the motherboard, using it's own cable.
| >
| > (c) If making a Slave, try plugging it into the free connector
| > on
| > the cable. However, some computers may require that the Master &
| > Slave
| > be in specific positions on the cable. (I believe my Slave is
| > closest to
| > the motherboard on the cable, in the middle connector.)
| >
| > If this is to be a Secondary Master, plug it into the free
| > slot on the motherboard. Examine the connector & the pins it is
| > plugging
| > into. You will see the orientation that is required, by the parallel
| > lines on the side of the connector & slot. Once sure of that, give
| > it a
| > push.
| >
| > (d) Plug a free power connector into the new drive. There should
| > be
| > some around. They will have two (three?) prongs only, obviously
| > different from the data connector.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Jonathan Benedicto" <incorrect@no.server> wrote in message
| > news:uhLv6pBdFHA.228@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | I have a broken hard drive from a IBM computer, and it has a legal
| > | copy of Win98SE. It didn't come with a CD but rather had the CD
| > copied
| > | to the hard drive.
| > |
| > | I would like to install Win98 on another computer, and so would it
| > be
| > | legal to use another CD and key, because we do own a legal key,
| > | although proving it might be difficult <g>.
| > |
| > | Jonathan
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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We tried the broken hard drive - but it stil doesn't work. We're
trying the trick mentioned in PCWorld of putting the hard drive in the
freezer. Might work <g>

Anyway, thank you for your suggestions.

Jonathan
 
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Too bad, then. I heard of that trick here in this NG, but thought it was
a joke. Good luck with it. Also, it was said here, it may be possible to
repair the motor/rotor mechanism of a crashed drive, BUT I don't know
the expense of it. Also, it likely won't work in every possible case of
a crash.


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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jonathan Benedicto" <incorrect@no.server> wrote in message
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| We tried the broken hard drive - but it stil doesn't work. We're
| trying the trick mentioned in PCWorld of putting the hard drive in the
| freezer. Might work <g>
|
| Anyway, thank you for your suggestions.
|
| Jonathan
|
|
 
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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> Too bad, then. I heard of that trick here in this NG, but thought it
> was
> a joke. Good luck with it. Also, it was said here, it may be
> possible to
> repair the motor/rotor mechanism of a crashed drive, BUT I don't
> know
> the expense of it. Also, it likely won't work in every possible case
> of
> a crash.

We asked a data recovery center for an estimate a while ago. They said
around $1000 USD, actually $800-$1800 CDN.

Jonathan
 
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YIKES! Go with Watts, then!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jonathan Benedicto" <incorrect@no.server> wrote in message
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| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23f4OwfFdFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > Too bad, then. I heard of that trick here in this NG, but thought it
| > was
| > a joke. Good luck with it. Also, it was said here, it may be
| > possible to
| > repair the motor/rotor mechanism of a crashed drive, BUT I don't
| > know
| > the expense of it. Also, it likely won't work in every possible case
| > of
| > a crash.
|
| We asked a data recovery center for an estimate a while ago. They said
| around $1000 USD, actually $800-$1800 CDN.
|
| Jonathan
|
|