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Anonymous
July 3, 2005 9:58:02 AM

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We had a power outage and when my daughter tried to restart her computer she
is getting a "windows protection error. restart computer" It will open in
safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support suggestions of
trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the start up
disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any suggestions? Thank
you.
Anonymous
July 3, 2005 10:05:01 AM

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I also forgot to add that she is not connected to the internet in any way.
So I have ruled out spyware and viruses.

"Frustrated Mom" wrote:

> We had a power outage and when my daughter tried to restart her computer she
> is getting a "windows protection error. restart computer" It will open in
> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support suggestions of
> trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the start up
> disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any suggestions? Thank
> you.
Anonymous
July 3, 2005 1:28:37 PM

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"Frustrated Mom" <Frustrated Mom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8479FE1C-B59D-4382-BF56-0BD82D8D7CB2@microsoft.com...

> We had a power outage and when my daughter tried to restart her computer
she
> is getting a "windows protection error. restart computer" It will open
in
> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support suggestions of
> trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the start
up
> disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any suggestions?
Thank

1. Your booting floppy ought to work always:
but all floppy drives die sooner or later, so test
(perhaps on other PCs) to confrm both that
driive A: is in working order and that you have
the right booting floppy (available free from
www.bootdisk.com: you download one selected
EXE file, then run it to write all the DOS files
onto a new floppy.) Anyone with the right
screwdriver can instal a new A: drive.

2. Power failures commonly cause so much
(software) damage as to require reinstalling
Windows. Be prepared for this. Study beforehand
the aumha web site or
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/how_to.html

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Related resources
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:43:17 AM

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hi man/mom,

You mentioned trying to Open with the start-up disk, then said
'it didnt work'; Can you elaborate as to what happened or what
you did directly after inserting the start-up disk?

...Rex..


"> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support suggestions
of
> trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the start
up
> disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any suggestions?
Thank
> you.
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:43:18 AM

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Rex,

I have never had to use the start up before so I don't really know what I am
doing. I inserted the disk and started the computer. I used the "CD Rom
option" and inserted the Windows 98 disk. Regardless of what drive I entered
by going c: etc... It kept saying that drive E is not ready, abort, fail,
retry? When I ran the File Checker though safe mode (not easy without a
mouse) there seemed to be a problem with setupx.dll. I thought if I could
extract that file it would fix the problem.
"Rex" wrote:

> hi man/mom,
>
> You mentioned trying to Open with the start-up disk, then said
> 'it didnt work'; Can you elaborate as to what happened or what
> you did directly after inserting the start-up disk?
>
> ...Rex..
>
>
> "> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support suggestions
> of
> > trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the start
> up
> > disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any suggestions?
> Thank
> > you.
>
>
>
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:43:19 AM

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Setupx.dll isn't the problem, and unless you've been religious about
updating System File Checker's database *every* time you installed a new
program or Windows Update or any such thing, SFC is worse than useless.
Let's concentrate on what you can and can't do before attempting and
"fixes", since some "fixes" that might come to mind are likely to make
the problem worse, not better.

Let's verify what we know:

You can boot all the way into Safe Mode, but Normal Mode gives a Windows
Protection error, correct?

You can boot to the Windows Startup floppy disk, with CD Support but
cannot read Drive E. That's your CD drive? Can you read drive C:\ from
the startup floppy disk?

Sounds as if *maybe* your CDROM drive is damaged. If you're game to open
up the case, you might try disabling the CDROM drive by unplugging its
power cable (smaller plug with four or five wires.) Be sure to *unplug*
the entire system from power cable before digging around in there. Does
Windows boot to normal mode now?

One other reasonably safe bet is that the Registry may have been
damaged. Try restoring a backup by choosing "Command Prompt Only" from
the Startup menu instead of Safe Mode. Run the following commands:

SMARTDRV
SCANREG /restore

Choose the most recent backup (which will presumably be the last one
made before the power outage.) Choose by date/time, not filename.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Frustrated Mom" <FrustratedMom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:FB79CBC4-2896-4DAE-9554-5CD11DFB2B4D@microsoft.com...
> I have never had to use the start up before so I don't really know
> what I am
> doing. I inserted the disk and started the computer. I used the "CD
> Rom
> option" and inserted the Windows 98 disk. Regardless of what drive I
> entered
> by going c: etc... It kept saying that drive E is not ready, abort,
> fail,
> retry? When I ran the File Checker though safe mode (not easy without
> a
> mouse) there seemed to be a problem with setupx.dll. I thought if I
> could
> extract that file it would fix the problem.
> "Rex" wrote:
>
>> hi man/mom,
>>
>> You mentioned trying to Open with the start-up disk, then said
>> 'it didnt work'; Can you elaborate as to what happened or what
>> you did directly after inserting the start-up disk?
>>
>> ...Rex..
>>
>>
>> "> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support
>> suggestions
>> of
>> > trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the
>> > start
>> up
>> > disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any
>> > suggestions?
>> Thank
>> > you.
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:43:19 AM

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If you only have drive C: and no other HDs or partitions/volumes, then in short
it should assign the CD drive D:.
When you boot with the boot disk it assigns the CD drive a letter at the end of
boot, what drive letter is it assigned?

Once you know the assigned letter, try typing the assigned letter at the prompt
and press enter. Then see if you can read the contents of the CD by using the
DIR command.

At the prompt type and press Enter after each:

AssignedLetter:
dir (*or you can type: dir AssignedLetter: )

The above is only to see if you can read the CD drive contents, I don't suggest
using it for anything other as of yet, first try Gary's suggestions.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"Frustrated Mom" <FrustratedMom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FB79CBC4-2896-4DAE-9554-5CD11DFB2B4D@microsoft.com...
> Rex,
>
> I have never had to use the start up before so I don't really know what I am
> doing. I inserted the disk and started the computer. I used the "CD Rom
> option" and inserted the Windows 98 disk. Regardless of what drive I entered
> by going c: etc... It kept saying that drive E is not ready, abort, fail,
> retry? When I ran the File Checker though safe mode (not easy without a
> mouse) there seemed to be a problem with setupx.dll. I thought if I could
> extract that file it would fix the problem.
> "Rex" wrote:
>
>> hi man/mom,
>>
>> You mentioned trying to Open with the start-up disk, then said
>> 'it didnt work'; Can you elaborate as to what happened or what
>> you did directly after inserting the start-up disk?
>>
>> ...Rex..
>>
>>
>> "> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support suggestions
>> of
>> > trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the start
>> up
>> > disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any suggestions?
>> Thank
>> > you.
>>
>>
>>
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:43:20 AM

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Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Setupx.dll isn't the problem, and unless you've been religious about
> updating System File Checker's database *every* time you installed a new
> program or Windows Update or any such thing, SFC is worse than useless.

(just as an FYI - I have learned to do that. I hope many people do, as it
can sure save some potential headaches later, in some cases. That, and
making a registry backup just prior to installing a new program).

> Let's concentrate on what you can and can't do before attempting and
> "fixes", since some "fixes" that might come to mind are likely to make
> the problem worse, not better.
>
> Let's verify what we know:
>
> You can boot all the way into Safe Mode, but Normal Mode gives a Windows
> Protection error, correct?
>
> You can boot to the Windows Startup floppy disk, with CD Support but
> cannot read Drive E. That's your CD drive? Can you read drive C:\ from
> the startup floppy disk?
>
> Sounds as if *maybe* your CDROM drive is damaged. If you're game to open
> up the case, you might try disabling the CDROM drive by unplugging its
> power cable (smaller plug with four or five wires.) Be sure to *unplug*
> the entire system from power cable before digging around in there. Does
> Windows boot to normal mode now?
>
> One other reasonably safe bet is that the Registry may have been
> damaged. Try restoring a backup by choosing "Command Prompt Only" from
> the Startup menu instead of Safe Mode. Run the following commands:
>
> SMARTDRV
> SCANREG /restore
>
> Choose the most recent backup (which will presumably be the last one
> made before the power outage.) Choose by date/time, not filename.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Frustrated Mom" <FrustratedMom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:FB79CBC4-2896-4DAE-9554-5CD11DFB2B4D@microsoft.com...
>> I have never had to use the start up before so I don't really know
>> what I am
>> doing. I inserted the disk and started the computer. I used the "CD
>> Rom
>> option" and inserted the Windows 98 disk. Regardless of what drive I
>> entered
>> by going c: etc... It kept saying that drive E is not ready, abort,
>> fail,
>> retry? When I ran the File Checker though safe mode (not easy without
>> a
>> mouse) there seemed to be a problem with setupx.dll. I thought if I
>> could
>> extract that file it would fix the problem.
>> "Rex" wrote:
>>
>>> hi man/mom,
>>>
>>> You mentioned trying to Open with the start-up disk, then said
>>> 'it didnt work'; Can you elaborate as to what happened or what
>>> you did directly after inserting the start-up disk?
>>>
>>> ...Rex..
>>>
>>>
>>> "> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support
>>> suggestions
>>> of
>>>> trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the
>>>> start
>>> up
>>>> disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any
>>>> suggestions?
>>> Thank
>>>> you.
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:43:20 AM

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Good to see you back Gary.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uqDeCGAgFHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Setupx.dll isn't the problem, and unless you've been religious about updating
> System File Checker's database *every* time you installed a new program or
> Windows Update or any such thing, SFC is worse than useless. Let's concentrate
> on what you can and can't do before attempting and "fixes", since some "fixes"
> that might come to mind are likely to make the problem worse, not better.
>
> Let's verify what we know:
>
> You can boot all the way into Safe Mode, but Normal Mode gives a Windows
> Protection error, correct?
>
> You can boot to the Windows Startup floppy disk, with CD Support but cannot
> read Drive E. That's your CD drive? Can you read drive C:\ from the startup
> floppy disk?
>
> Sounds as if *maybe* your CDROM drive is damaged. If you're game to open up
> the case, you might try disabling the CDROM drive by unplugging its power
> cable (smaller plug with four or five wires.) Be sure to *unplug* the entire
> system from power cable before digging around in there. Does Windows boot to
> normal mode now?
>
> One other reasonably safe bet is that the Registry may have been damaged. Try
> restoring a backup by choosing "Command Prompt Only" from the Startup menu
> instead of Safe Mode. Run the following commands:
>
> SMARTDRV
> SCANREG /restore
>
> Choose the most recent backup (which will presumably be the last one made
> before the power outage.) Choose by date/time, not filename.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Frustrated Mom" <FrustratedMom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FB79CBC4-2896-4DAE-9554-5CD11DFB2B4D@microsoft.com...
>> I have never had to use the start up before so I don't really know what I am
>> doing. I inserted the disk and started the computer. I used the "CD Rom
>> option" and inserted the Windows 98 disk. Regardless of what drive I entered
>> by going c: etc... It kept saying that drive E is not ready, abort, fail,
>> retry? When I ran the File Checker though safe mode (not easy without a
>> mouse) there seemed to be a problem with setupx.dll. I thought if I could
>> extract that file it would fix the problem.
>> "Rex" wrote:
>>
>>> hi man/mom,
>>>
>>> You mentioned trying to Open with the start-up disk, then said
>>> 'it didnt work'; Can you elaborate as to what happened or what
>>> you did directly after inserting the start-up disk?
>>>
>>> ...Rex..
>>>
>>>
>>> "> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support suggestions
>>> of
>>> > trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the start
>>> up
>>> > disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any suggestions?
>>> Thank
>>> > you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:43:22 AM

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Not according to our leads email unless it's a slipup.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23jD18LCgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Good to be back, Brian. Thanks.
>
> pssst.... wasn't Bill Blanton *already* an MVP? ;>)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:o 5qGBDCgFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Good to see you back Gary.
>>
>
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:43:23 AM

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I know. I was referring to my own reaction when I first heard of Bill's
nomination, <s>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:eKMfMgCgFHA.460@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Not according to our leads email unless it's a slipup.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko
> { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23jD18LCgFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Good to be back, Brian. Thanks.
>>
>> pssst.... wasn't Bill Blanton *already* an MVP? ;>)
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS MVP Shell/User
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
>> news:o 5qGBDCgFHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> Good to see you back Gary.
>>>
>>
>
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 3:48:29 AM

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Please excuse me 'mom',

In my prior reply I referred to you as /man.
For some reason, as i replied to you, I looked
my outlook screen and saw the name of a poster whose
name had "man" in it, and for some stupid reason I thought
it was a part of your name....
Again, please excuse me, its late.

...Rex..
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 10:46:08 AM

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Nothing worked so I reinstalled Windows as a new Windowsb. When I just tried
to reinstall it still had the same error. Now it's like starting over with
new Windows. Thank you for all of your suggestions.

"Frustrated Mom" wrote:

> We had a power outage and when my daughter tried to restart her computer she
> is getting a "windows protection error. restart computer" It will open in
> safe mode but with no mouse. I've gone through the support suggestions of
> trying different boot options, none work. I tried opening with the start up
> disk, didn't work. I really don't know what to try. Any suggestions? Thank
> you.
Anonymous
July 4, 2005 12:48:25 PM

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"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%23RdCuBBgFHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| > Setupx.dll isn't the problem, and unless you've been religious about
| > updating System File Checker's database *every* time you installed a new
| > program or Windows Update or any such thing, SFC is worse than useless.
|
| (just as an FYI - I have learned to do that. I hope many people do, as
it
| can sure save some potential headaches later, in some cases. That, and
| making a registry backup just prior to installing a new program).

Me too since the very first day.
Never used it but once or twice to restore a file.
I am still looking for something similar for XP.
Not for restoring but just for my records to know whats happening..

--snip-
| > "Frustrated Mom" <FrustratedMom@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| > message news:FB79CBC4-2896-4DAE-9554-5CD11DFB2B4D@microsoft.com...
--snip-
--
mae
!