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Just to note: It was 98 "First edition." here. On the only two machines
I tested (one "real", one virtual) I was able to produce the bug. It
is quite unusual to have to delete that many files, though I imagine
some people have that many in %temp%, until they learn that it has
to be cleaned out once in a while.
"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message news:e6a57XChFHA.3936@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Wow....why so hostile on this subject, Bear??
> Have you actually recently tested the issue with IE6 SP1 on Win98SE, deleting *at
> least* 1500 files in Windows Explorer simultaneously? I have, on a number of
> systems with totally different hardware and software, and they all will invariably
> experience the issue described. A number of others have also tested it, including
> most recently Bill Blanton, who did not think the issue existed until he actually
> tested it as I described.
>
> I for one do not appreciate or deserve being called a Moral Scold, and do not
> understand why such a comment is inserted in this thread; nor is it true that "the
> problem persists for only a very small (yet quite vocal) number" of users. The
> problem is *noticed* by only a small number of users, as the overwhelming majority
> of Win98SE users never delete that quantity of files in one shot.
>
> I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of this entire issue.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
>
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uDqDwi%23gFHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Inline:
>>
>> Peabody wrote:
>> > PA Bear says...
>> >
>> >> The bug to which you refer was encountered by a very
>> >> small number of Win98 users in earlier versions of IE6
>> >> only. Not a problem now.
>> >
>> > Well, in case it should affect me for some reason (my luck
>> > tends to run that way), is there a safe-haven number of
>> > deletes that never did cause a problem for anyone. For
>> > example, would deleting, say, 254 files at a time always
>> > have been safe?
>> >
>> > And, is there a MS KB article on this problem?
>>
>> Not to my knowledge, no. The problem persists for only a very small (yet
>> quite vocal) number of Win98(SE) users who've installed IE6 SP1. As an
>> overwhelming majority of Win98(SE) users do /not/ have the problem, it's my
>> belief that any persisting problems are machine- or installation-specific
>> and not due to some flaw in IE6 SP1. YMMV, as the Moral Scolds here are
>> more than happy to tell you.
>>
>> >> IE6 SP1 is fully uninstallable if installed via Windows
>> >> Update.
>> >
>> > But not if downloaded in full and installed offline? Well
>> > that's interesting, and good to know. What I'm probably
>> > going to do is Ghost the C partition right before doing
>> > the upgrade, just as an added precaution.
>>
>> /If/ you choose to keep your previous installation of IE available when
>> installing via a separate download/offline, IE6 will be uninstallable.
>>
>> Remember to check in at Windows Update after installing, no matter how you
>> install it.
>>
>> > Do you think it would be good to uninstall Sun Java before,
>> > and reinstall it after? Hopefully that wouldn't be
>> > necessary. Anything else like that?
>>
>> Nah.
>>
>> >> To assure a clean, troublefree install of anything
>> >> (including Windows Updates), your anti-virus application
>> >> should be disabled and all other running processes
>> >> closed (e.g., IE, mail client, Office) before beginning
>> >> the install.
>> >
>> > Nothing running except Explorer and Systray, and of course
>> > IE. I may even turn off KB891711.
>>
>> If you have the re-released version of 891711 installed, don't worry about
>> it. (Systray isn't really needed either.)
>>
>> > And I need to reset Security to Medium so that cookies get
>> > turned on, and turn off Hosts, and clean out TIP and Temp,
>> > and re-enable HTA. Damn, I better write all this down.
>>
>> Huh? I think you're making a mountain out of a very small molehill myself
>> but you might want to check out this page my MVP "Majik":
>>
>> Preparing to Install a Major Programs (Especially Internet Explorer)
>>
http://www.mindspring.com/~oe_oh/preparing_to_install_internet_ex.htm
>>
>> > Thanks for everybody's comments. I hate to be such a
>> > Luddite on these upgrades, but I've been stung before and am
>> > more than a bit gunshy. I'm still resisting on DirectX 9.
>>
>> Now /there/ I'd agree with you!
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE) & Security
>>
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