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Anonymous
July 22, 2005 7:33:08 PM

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When I try to defrag my computer it starts:
Reading drive information
defraging file system (after it finally gets there)
then

Drive contents have changed - restarting

Before I start the defrag, I turn off the virus protector and the screen
saver so I can't think of anyting else that would be "changing" the drive
contents.

Eventually, after about 3-4 hours, it will finish defragging.

Would appreciate any help....Thanks

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Anonymous
July 22, 2005 8:51:37 PM

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See the "Clean Boot" article link in my signature.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Ellen55" <Ellen55@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4623103C-05AA-4AC1-BA2F-F2B9EDEE397C@microsoft.com...
> When I try to defrag my computer it starts:
> Reading drive information
> defraging file system (after it finally gets there)
> then
>
> Drive contents have changed - restarting
>
> Before I start the defrag, I turn off the virus protector and the
> screen
> saver so I can't think of anyting else that would be "changing" the
> drive
> contents.
>
> Eventually, after about 3-4 hours, it will finish defragging.
>
> Would appreciate any help....Thanks
Anonymous
July 22, 2005 10:39:27 PM

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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q287914
Articles about Scandisk
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q286263
Articles about Defrag

I must warn that Scandisk may not do a great job when there is a
great one to do...
http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/scandisk.htm
Therefore, perhaps UNcheck "Automatically fix errors" on it's front
screen. It will then ask whether you want each error fixed. If it sounds
truly horrible, say "No!", and post the log. The log will be
"C:\Scandisk.log". Do not let it constantly restart, either. (When
running Scandisk in DOS, there won't be such a box to uncheck. You must
"Scandisk /Checkonly", instead. It will write to the same .log. The
Auto-Scandisk that runs from DOS after a crash must be set to "Prompt"
the bad ones in C:\Windows\Command\Scandisk.ini.) REALLY, in light of
all THAT, the BEST thing to do is to have a full system backup to run
to! Would you like my list of backup apps?

1. Turn off screen saver (R-Clk Desktop, Properties, Screen Saver--
None)
2. Turn off power management (Control Panel, Power Management-- Always
On,Never,Never,Never)
3. Disable any permanent internet cable connection, perhaps.
4. Suspend Task Scheduler
5. Turn off interfering programs. Use "StartupCop" or "EndItAll2" from
PCMag (below). Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab". Note what is
unchecked. Then, go to the General tab & disable the entire Startup
Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking "Load Startup...". Reboot.
Don't forget to re-enable before the next boot.
6. Use "HDValet" from PCMag, or
(a) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete
all offline content, OK, OK"
(b) "START, Run, %TEMP%", & delete all files that will let you. This
will likely be "C:\Windows\Temp". This is best done after a fresh boot,
unless you have not seen the message "Reboot to complete this install".
7. Run Scandisk (Thorough, usually w/o write testing. Check all three
items under "Scandisk, Advanced button, 'Check files for' box". If you
want to be informed as it does a fix, UNcheck "Automatically fix errors"
on the front screen, or look inside "C:\Scandisk.log" afterwards.)
8. "START, Run, Defrag /p /details". Apparently, "/p" Defrags the
unmovables.

The purpose of steps 1-5 is only to prevent constant restarts of
Scandisk & Defrag, if you get them; but DEFINITELY turn off the Virus
Scanner. Scandisk should be done perhaps once a month, and certainly
after every serious crash. Do a Defrag after a sluggish boot or when
this says so:
http://www.pcmag.com/ 's CrackUp, by Gregory A. Wolking & Bob Flanders.
Also, take DiskAction, to determine what is constantly writing to the
HDD, which causes the restarts. Take BHOCop & StartupCop too.

"DiskAction" reports the last 12 processes that access any partition. It
discovered the Microsoft Windows Critical Update Notification tool was
accessing my HDD every five minutes. It can be uninstalled in "Control
Panel, Add/Remove Programs". Then, occasionally, "START, Windows Update"
on your own.

"BHOCop" found a Browser Helper Object called Wavehelper Class, created
by "Wavetop", that was building a monstrosity of an error log called
"Logit.txt" in here. "START, Find, F/F, Logit.txt"-- see one?

Now, my hard drive is quieter than my mouse. (Of course, I now also have
384 MB RAM, up from an initial 64, eliminating Swap File activity.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Ellen55" <Ellen55@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4623103C-05AA-4AC1-BA2F-F2B9EDEE397C@microsoft.com...
| When I try to defrag my computer it starts:
| Reading drive information
| defraging file system (after it finally gets there)
| then
|
| Drive contents have changed - restarting
|
| Before I start the defrag, I turn off the virus protector and the
screen
| saver so I can't think of anyting else that would be "changing" the
drive
| contents.
|
| Eventually, after about 3-4 hours, it will finish defragging.
|
| Would appreciate any help....Thanks
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Anonymous
July 22, 2005 11:18:20 PM

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See the defrag and scandisk troubleshooters located here:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/how_to.html


--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Ellen55" <Ellen55@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4623103C-05AA-4AC1-BA2F-F2B9EDEE397C@microsoft.com...
> When I try to defrag my computer it starts:
> Reading drive information
> defraging file system (after it finally gets there)
> then
>
> Drive contents have changed - restarting
>
> Before I start the defrag, I turn off the virus protector and the screen
> saver so I can't think of anyting else that would be "changing" the drive
> contents.
>
> Eventually, after about 3-4 hours, it will finish defragging.
>
> Would appreciate any help....Thanks
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 3:55:19 AM

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If you want to learn about Partition, Hard Disks, File systems and Data
Recovery, Book "Data Recovery with & without Programming"

You can see the contents of the book on following Link:



http://www.DataDoctor.biz/author.htm



Regards

TT
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 1:33:14 PM

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If we want spam, we'll check our email; thanks anyway........

"Data Recovery Expert" <taruntyagiDDI@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1122101719.748795.190280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> If you want to learn about Partition, Hard Disks, File systems and Data
> Recovery, Book "Data Recovery with & without Programming"
>
> You can see the contents of the book on following Link:
>
>
>
> http://www.DataDoctor.biz/author.htm
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> TT
>
Anonymous
July 24, 2005 2:27:14 AM

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For goodness sake, just grab a copy of 'degrag.exe' from
a computer running 'M.E'.
Copy it from a friend or whatever onto a floppy.
On your computer, go into c:\windows and find 'Defrag.Exe'. Rename this
file to 'Defragold.exe'. Next, copy your new one from the floppy and
place it in the above folder. (make a shortcut to it on your desktop)
Run it and watch your problem disappear.
Windows 98 has a very poor version of Defrag, but Windows M.E has
a good one.

...Rex..

"Ellen55" <Ellen55@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4623103C-05AA-4AC1-BA2F-F2B9EDEE397C@microsoft.com...
> When I try to defrag my computer it starts:
> Reading drive information
> defraging file system (after it finally gets there)
> then
>
> Drive contents have changed - restarting
>
> Before I start the defrag, I turn off the virus protector and the screen
> saver so I can't think of anyting else that would be "changing" the drive
> contents.
>
> Eventually, after about 3-4 hours, it will finish defragging.
>
> Would appreciate any help....Thanks
Anonymous
July 24, 2005 2:27:15 AM

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Just using the ME defrag utility won't necessarily prevent the "disk in
use/restart defrag" problem. I've seen ME systems with the same problem.
Yes, it's faster, but that's the only real difference. The procedures I
suggest in my Clean Boot article are also just good maintenance
practices in their own right.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Rex" <Rex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ekpJRX4jFHA.3012@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> For goodness sake, just grab a copy of 'degrag.exe' from
> a computer running 'M.E'.
> Copy it from a friend or whatever onto a floppy.
> On your computer, go into c:\windows and find 'Defrag.Exe'. Rename
> this
> file to 'Defragold.exe'. Next, copy your new one from the
> floppy and
> place it in the above folder. (make a shortcut to it on your desktop)
> Run it and watch your problem disappear.
> Windows 98 has a very poor version of Defrag, but Windows M.E has
> a good one.
>
> ..Rex..
>
> "Ellen55" <Ellen55@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4623103C-05AA-4AC1-BA2F-F2B9EDEE397C@microsoft.com...
>> When I try to defrag my computer it starts:
>> Reading drive information
>> defraging file system (after it finally gets there)
>> then
>>
>> Drive contents have changed - restarting
>>
>> Before I start the defrag, I turn off the virus protector and the
>> screen
>> saver so I can't think of anyting else that would be "changing" the
>> drive
>> contents.
>>
>> Eventually, after about 3-4 hours, it will finish defragging.
>>
>> Would appreciate any help....Thanks
>
>
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