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July 23, 2005 2:27:18 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Hello

I encountered a problem I couldn't solve w/98se... a real can of worms!!
This was the worst for me, I did 2 fresh installs of 98se and each time the
problem resurfaced and was a nightmare!! I had no alternative and installed
W-XP

My problem was w/MSGSRV32.EXE. I've been installing and using the same
procedures for yrs. now. After the install I get devices set up, have
everything I need to do this easily. I'm on dial-up and I make a simple DUN
connection, no ISP s/w to make a new connection, don't use the ICW. Only
install DUN and Phone for networking services. I dial-up ISP, I'm ok. Next I
run the complete setup for IE6-SP1, do my settings for IE and I install my
a/v, and dial-up again and get the big first update for my a/v program, next
I configure my firewall. I install Spyware Blaster, Spybot, & Ad-Aware
Personal. Next I proceed to WU.

Has anyone reported a problem like this ???
I have my DUN, connection is good!!
No problems....
I install IE6-SP1 and my nightmare begins!!
Note: the install for IE6-SP1 is totally successful!!
My problem is w/MSGSRV32.EXE

I check all my settings, same settings for yrs., same ISP.
I look at IE connection settings, modem, etc. all good!!
I click the launcher and dial, the dial part didn't seem to be the problem,
but at the server verification point a lockup occured, but the connection
would be made, very strange!!
I would do a ctl/alt/del and see MSGSRV32.EXE highlighted.
I would end it, end task.
I would wait a few seconds, the machine would unlock my connection icon
would drop into the system tray.

I could open OE and even bring my mail down, however the machine was
crippled... couldn't do much else. If I closed
OE, could open fldrs. or My computer, etc... This was h---!!

After 2 fresh installs, and not being able to fix it... I installed Win-XP
Prof.

I appreciate help, I do want to solve this... but I need a working puter and
really need help!!

Thanks, Star
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 2:40:02 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

"Star" <Star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
news:11e3l9onvqd8fb9@corp.supernews.com...
> Hello
>
> I encountered a problem I couldn't solve w/98se... a real can of worms!!
> This was the worst for me, I did 2 fresh installs of 98se and each time
the
> problem resurfaced and was a nightmare!! I had no alternative and
installed
> W-XP
>
> My problem was w/MSGSRV32.EXE. I've been installing and using the same
> procedures for yrs. now. After the install I get devices set up, have
> everything I need to do this easily. I'm on dial-up and I make a simple
DUN
> connection, no ISP s/w to make a new connection, don't use the ICW. Only
> install DUN and Phone for networking services. I dial-up ISP, I'm ok. Next
I
> run the complete setup for IE6-SP1, do my settings for IE and I install my
> a/v, and dial-up again and get the big first update for my a/v program,
next
> I configure my firewall. I install Spyware Blaster, Spybot, & Ad-Aware
> Personal. Next I proceed to WU.
>
> Has anyone reported a problem like this ???
> I have my DUN, connection is good!!
> No problems....
> I install IE6-SP1 and my nightmare begins!!
> Note: the install for IE6-SP1 is totally successful!!
> My problem is w/MSGSRV32.EXE
>
> I check all my settings, same settings for yrs., same ISP.
> I look at IE connection settings, modem, etc. all good!!
> I click the launcher and dial, the dial part didn't seem to be the
problem,
> but at the server verification point a lockup occured,

Did you try turning server verification off?
Anonymous
July 24, 2005 1:22:40 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

See if something here helps:
http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/ermsgs32.htm

Also, if you plan to keep XP and then install 98 as a second OS in a dual boot,
you'll have a little more work to do. Win98 should be installed before XP to
avoid the extra work. For info see:
http://thpc.info/dualboot.html

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"Star" <Star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
news:11e3l9onvqd8fb9@corp.supernews.com...
> Hello
>
> I encountered a problem I couldn't solve w/98se... a real can of worms!!
> This was the worst for me, I did 2 fresh installs of 98se and each time the
> problem resurfaced and was a nightmare!! I had no alternative and installed
> W-XP
>
> My problem was w/MSGSRV32.EXE. I've been installing and using the same
> procedures for yrs. now. After the install I get devices set up, have
> everything I need to do this easily. I'm on dial-up and I make a simple DUN
> connection, no ISP s/w to make a new connection, don't use the ICW. Only
> install DUN and Phone for networking services. I dial-up ISP, I'm ok. Next I
> run the complete setup for IE6-SP1, do my settings for IE and I install my
> a/v, and dial-up again and get the big first update for my a/v program, next I
> configure my firewall. I install Spyware Blaster, Spybot, & Ad-Aware Personal.
> Next I proceed to WU.
>
> Has anyone reported a problem like this ???
> I have my DUN, connection is good!!
> No problems....
> I install IE6-SP1 and my nightmare begins!!
> Note: the install for IE6-SP1 is totally successful!!
> My problem is w/MSGSRV32.EXE
>
> I check all my settings, same settings for yrs., same ISP.
> I look at IE connection settings, modem, etc. all good!!
> I click the launcher and dial, the dial part didn't seem to be the problem,
> but at the server verification point a lockup occured, but the connection
> would be made, very strange!!
> I would do a ctl/alt/del and see MSGSRV32.EXE highlighted.
> I would end it, end task.
> I would wait a few seconds, the machine would unlock my connection icon would
> drop into the system tray.
>
> I could open OE and even bring my mail down, however the machine was
> crippled... couldn't do much else. If I closed
> OE, could open fldrs. or My computer, etc... This was h---!!
>
> After 2 fresh installs, and not being able to fix it... I installed Win-XP
> Prof.
>
> I appreciate help, I do want to solve this... but I need a working puter and
> really need help!!
>
> Thanks, Star
>
>
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Anonymous
July 24, 2005 5:18:01 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Hi Star,,,,
I am so looking forward to comments to your post. I get bemused myself
at situations where one instal differs from another yet there are no
changes in the instal mannerism........... Windows can be a strange
product, it confuses many and befuddles others.
Have my 'watch' set to your post.
Btw, you and I are very similar in the way we do an initial setup, right
down to dun too. (i'm on dialup).

...Rex..

"Star" <Star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
news:11e3l9onvqd8fb9@corp.supernews.com...
> Hello
>
> I encountered a problem I couldn't solve w/98se... a real can of worms!!
> This was the worst for me, I did 2 fresh installs of 98se and each time
the
> problem resurfaced and was a nightmare!! I had no alternative and
installed
> W-XP
>
> My problem was w/MSGSRV32.EXE. I've been installing and using the same
> procedures for yrs. now. After the install I get devices set up, have
> everything I need to do this easily. I'm on dial-up and I make a simple
DUN
> connection, no ISP s/w to make a new connection, don't use the ICW. Only
> install DUN and Phone for networking services. I dial-up ISP, I'm ok. Next
I
> run the complete setup for IE6-SP1, do my settings for IE and I install my
> a/v, and dial-up again and get the big first update for my a/v program,
next
> I configure my firewall. I install Spyware Blaster, Spybot, & Ad-Aware
> Personal. Next I proceed to WU.
>
> Has anyone reported a problem like this ???
> I have my DUN, connection is good!!
> No problems....
> I install IE6-SP1 and my nightmare begins!!
> Note: the install for IE6-SP1 is totally successful!!
> My problem is w/MSGSRV32.EXE
>
> I check all my settings, same settings for yrs., same ISP.
> I look at IE connection settings, modem, etc. all good!!
> I click the launcher and dial, the dial part didn't seem to be the
problem,
> but at the server verification point a lockup occured, but the connection
> would be made, very strange!!
> I would do a ctl/alt/del and see MSGSRV32.EXE highlighted.
> I would end it, end task.
> I would wait a few seconds, the machine would unlock my connection icon
> would drop into the system tray.
>
> I could open OE and even bring my mail down, however the machine was
> crippled... couldn't do much else. If I closed
> OE, could open fldrs. or My computer, etc... This was h---!!
>
> After 2 fresh installs, and not being able to fix it... I installed Win-XP
> Prof.
>
> I appreciate help, I do want to solve this... but I need a working puter
and
> really need help!!
>
> Thanks, Star
>
>
July 26, 2005 12:47:35 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Hi Rex,
Haven't been in the ng for several days, sorry!!
I see Hugh, MVP has not replied back, but Brian, MVP has!!
I'm sure no virus or trojan or malware was involved!!
I never went on the Internet except once on my first install, only to my ISP
site and Pc-cillin was installed and updated. I didn't even go to Trend
Micro site, I can do the first big update for Pc-cillin without doing so.
It just doesn't make sense to me and I was very descriptive of my problem
and have been doing this for yrs.
I made the same simple dun on W-XP, however I didn't have to run and
install IE-6.
Before I ran IE6-SP1 I had a good dun connection. I had to run IE6-SP1 to
move forward, to install a/v software, Pc-cillin won't install w/o the
upgrade.
I don't know why msgsrv32 was giving me problems and it crippled my machine,
had to end it repeatedly... like I explained, the dialup went good, it
seemed to go bad at the point of verication logon, it would lockup. I did
ctl/alt/del and end msgsrv32 and instantly it would unlock, the connection
icon would drop to the system tray.... but the machine was crippled and
unstable. I actually opened OE, set up accts. but the puter was not working
good period and I couldn't fix it even with 2 fresh installs.

Hopefully, more input will be forthcoming in this thread, and I still have
much hw to do. I'm having printer problems now w/HP printer and have been
working to resolve it. HP techs are tying to help me, the initial install
failed. I love my mf printer, the s/w install pkg. is a pita, however I
never had any problems installing it on 98se, so see, you just can't know
when Windows is going to smack you on the side of the head!!

Have a G-R-E-A-T day,
Star




"Rex" <Rex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2341Fs25jFHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> Hi Star,,,,
> I am so looking forward to comments to your post. I get bemused myself
> at situations where one instal differs from another yet there are no
> changes in the instal mannerism........... Windows can be a strange
> product, it confuses many and befuddles others.
> Have my 'watch' set to your post.
> Btw, you and I are very similar in the way we do an initial setup, right
> down to dun too. (i'm on dialup).
>
> ..Rex..
>
> "Star" <Star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:11e3l9onvqd8fb9@corp.supernews.com...
>> Hello
>>
>> I encountered a problem I couldn't solve w/98se... a real can of worms!!
>> This was the worst for me, I did 2 fresh installs of 98se and each time
> the
>> problem resurfaced and was a nightmare!! I had no alternative and
> installed
>> W-XP
>>
>> My problem was w/MSGSRV32.EXE. I've been installing and using the same
>> procedures for yrs. now. After the install I get devices set up, have
>> everything I need to do this easily. I'm on dial-up and I make a simple
> DUN
>> connection, no ISP s/w to make a new connection, don't use the ICW. Only
>> install DUN and Phone for networking services. I dial-up ISP, I'm ok.
>> Next
> I
>> run the complete setup for IE6-SP1, do my settings for IE and I install
>> my
>> a/v, and dial-up again and get the big first update for my a/v program,
> next
>> I configure my firewall. I install Spyware Blaster, Spybot, & Ad-Aware
>> Personal. Next I proceed to WU.
>>
>> Has anyone reported a problem like this ???
>> I have my DUN, connection is good!!
>> No problems....
>> I install IE6-SP1 and my nightmare begins!!
>> Note: the install for IE6-SP1 is totally successful!!
>> My problem is w/MSGSRV32.EXE
>>
>> I check all my settings, same settings for yrs., same ISP.
>> I look at IE connection settings, modem, etc. all good!!
>> I click the launcher and dial, the dial part didn't seem to be the
> problem,
>> but at the server verification point a lockup occured, but the connection
>> would be made, very strange!!
>> I would do a ctl/alt/del and see MSGSRV32.EXE highlighted.
>> I would end it, end task.
>> I would wait a few seconds, the machine would unlock my connection icon
>> would drop into the system tray.
>>
>> I could open OE and even bring my mail down, however the machine was
>> crippled... couldn't do much else. If I closed
>> OE, could open fldrs. or My computer, etc... This was h---!!
>>
>> After 2 fresh installs, and not being able to fix it... I installed
>> Win-XP
>> Prof.
>>
>> I appreciate help, I do want to solve this... but I need a working puter
> and
>> really need help!!
>>
>> Thanks, Star
>>
>>
>
>
July 26, 2005 1:00:06 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Hi Brian,
I've done the dual boot once, it was a good experience... no problems. The
first time is scarry on everything w/Windows expecially installs. I still
remember the first time I prepared a drive, used MS FDisk and still use it.

Yes, I would have to go down and prepare the hd, use MS FDisk and make fat
32. Duh, I could understand MS FDisk completely, it made perfect sense to
me. I wish everything else regarding Windows would make the same perfect
sense!!

I would install W98-se first which puts itself on the C:\primary active
partition.

Brian, can you give feedback regarding this post and my problem w/msgsrv32.

Thank you,
Star

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:u3z5Ja$jFHA.2852@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> See if something here helps:
> http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/ermsgs32.htm
>
> Also, if you plan to keep XP and then install 98 as a second OS in a dual
> boot, you'll have a little more work to do. Win98 should be installed
> before XP to avoid the extra work. For info see:
> http://thpc.info/dualboot.html
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
>
>
> "Star" <Star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:11e3l9onvqd8fb9@corp.supernews.com...
>> Hello
>>
>> I encountered a problem I couldn't solve w/98se... a real can of worms!!
>> This was the worst for me, I did 2 fresh installs of 98se and each time
>> the problem resurfaced and was a nightmare!! I had no alternative and
>> installed W-XP
>>
>> My problem was w/MSGSRV32.EXE. I've been installing and using the same
>> procedures for yrs. now. After the install I get devices set up, have
>> everything I need to do this easily. I'm on dial-up and I make a simple
>> DUN connection, no ISP s/w to make a new connection, don't use the ICW.
>> Only install DUN and Phone for networking services. I dial-up ISP, I'm
>> ok. Next I run the complete setup for IE6-SP1, do my settings for IE and
>> I install my a/v, and dial-up again and get the big first update for my
>> a/v program, next I configure my firewall. I install Spyware Blaster,
>> Spybot, & Ad-Aware Personal. Next I proceed to WU.
>>
>> Has anyone reported a problem like this ???
>> I have my DUN, connection is good!!
>> No problems....
>> I install IE6-SP1 and my nightmare begins!!
>> Note: the install for IE6-SP1 is totally successful!!
>> My problem is w/MSGSRV32.EXE
>>
>> I check all my settings, same settings for yrs., same ISP.
>> I look at IE connection settings, modem, etc. all good!!
>> I click the launcher and dial, the dial part didn't seem to be the
>> problem,
>> but at the server verification point a lockup occured, but the connection
>> would be made, very strange!!
>> I would do a ctl/alt/del and see MSGSRV32.EXE highlighted.
>> I would end it, end task.
>> I would wait a few seconds, the machine would unlock my connection icon
>> would drop into the system tray.
>>
>> I could open OE and even bring my mail down, however the machine was
>> crippled... couldn't do much else. If I closed
>> OE, could open fldrs. or My computer, etc... This was h---!!
>>
>> After 2 fresh installs, and not being able to fix it... I installed
>> Win-XP Prof.
>>
>> I appreciate help, I do want to solve this... but I need a working puter
>> and really need help!!
>>
>> Thanks, Star
>>
>>
>
Anonymous
July 26, 2005 1:20:56 PM

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Star,

MSGSRV32.EXE is only the messenger, not the problem. MSGSRV32 carries
system messages from one place to another, whether between two programs
or between programs and hardware, etc. The reason MSGSRV32 shows up in
End Task lists when there's a problem is usually that it has been
prevented from delivering whatever message it's been charged with
delivering. It sits there waiting for acknowledgement from the app or
driver that it's delivered a message to, but the app involved is
ignoring it. So, yes, the immediate reason for a "Not Responding"
message is that MSGSRV32 is "stuck", but that's not MSGSVR32's fault.
It's just a symptom of some other problem.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Star" <star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
news:11ecmp3agtefd19@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi Rex,
> Haven't been in the ng for several days, sorry!!
> I see Hugh, MVP has not replied back, but Brian, MVP has!!
> I'm sure no virus or trojan or malware was involved!!
> I never went on the Internet except once on my first install, only to
> my ISP site and Pc-cillin was installed and updated. I didn't even go
> to Trend Micro site, I can do the first big update for Pc-cillin
> without doing so.
> It just doesn't make sense to me and I was very descriptive of my
> problem and have been doing this for yrs.
> I made the same simple dun on W-XP, however I didn't have to run and
> install IE-6.
> Before I ran IE6-SP1 I had a good dun connection. I had to run IE6-SP1
> to move forward, to install a/v software, Pc-cillin won't install w/o
> the upgrade.
> I don't know why msgsrv32 was giving me problems and it crippled my
> machine, had to end it repeatedly... like I explained, the dialup went
> good, it seemed to go bad at the point of verication logon, it would
> lockup. I did ctl/alt/del and end msgsrv32 and instantly it would
> unlock, the connection icon would drop to the system tray.... but the
> machine was crippled and unstable. I actually opened OE, set up accts.
> but the puter was not working good period and I couldn't fix it even
> with 2 fresh installs.
>
> Hopefully, more input will be forthcoming in this thread, and I still
> have much hw to do. I'm having printer problems now w/HP printer and
> have been working to resolve it. HP techs are tying to help me, the
> initial install failed. I love my mf printer, the s/w install pkg. is
> a pita, however I never had any problems installing it on 98se, so
> see, you just can't know when Windows is going to smack you on the
> side of the head!!
>
> Have a G-R-E-A-T day,
> Star
>
>
>
>
> "Rex" <Rex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%2341Fs25jFHA.1504@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Hi Star,,,,
>> I am so looking forward to comments to your post. I get bemused
>> myself
>> at situations where one instal differs from another yet there are no
>> changes in the instal mannerism........... Windows can be a
>> strange
>> product, it confuses many and befuddles others.
>> Have my 'watch' set to your post.
>> Btw, you and I are very similar in the way we do an initial setup,
>> right
>> down to dun too. (i'm on dialup).
>>
>> ..Rex..
>>
>> "Star" <Star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:11e3l9onvqd8fb9@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I encountered a problem I couldn't solve w/98se... a real can of
>>> worms!!
>>> This was the worst for me, I did 2 fresh installs of 98se and each
>>> time
>> the
>>> problem resurfaced and was a nightmare!! I had no alternative and
>> installed
>>> W-XP
>>>
>>> My problem was w/MSGSRV32.EXE. I've been installing and using the
>>> same
>>> procedures for yrs. now. After the install I get devices set up,
>>> have
>>> everything I need to do this easily. I'm on dial-up and I make a
>>> simple
>> DUN
>>> connection, no ISP s/w to make a new connection, don't use the ICW.
>>> Only
>>> install DUN and Phone for networking services. I dial-up ISP, I'm
>>> ok. Next
>> I
>>> run the complete setup for IE6-SP1, do my settings for IE and I
>>> install my
>>> a/v, and dial-up again and get the big first update for my a/v
>>> program,
>> next
>>> I configure my firewall. I install Spyware Blaster, Spybot, &
>>> Ad-Aware
>>> Personal. Next I proceed to WU.
>>>
>>> Has anyone reported a problem like this ???
>>> I have my DUN, connection is good!!
>>> No problems....
>>> I install IE6-SP1 and my nightmare begins!!
>>> Note: the install for IE6-SP1 is totally successful!!
>>> My problem is w/MSGSRV32.EXE
>>>
>>> I check all my settings, same settings for yrs., same ISP.
>>> I look at IE connection settings, modem, etc. all good!!
>>> I click the launcher and dial, the dial part didn't seem to be the
>> problem,
>>> but at the server verification point a lockup occured, but the
>>> connection
>>> would be made, very strange!!
>>> I would do a ctl/alt/del and see MSGSRV32.EXE highlighted.
>>> I would end it, end task.
>>> I would wait a few seconds, the machine would unlock my connection
>>> icon
>>> would drop into the system tray.
>>>
>>> I could open OE and even bring my mail down, however the machine was
>>> crippled... couldn't do much else. If I closed
>>> OE, could open fldrs. or My computer, etc... This was h---!!
>>>
>>> After 2 fresh installs, and not being able to fix it... I installed
>>> Win-XP
>>> Prof.
>>>
>>> I appreciate help, I do want to solve this... but I need a working
>>> puter
>> and
>>> really need help!!
>>>
>>> Thanks, Star
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
July 26, 2005 1:43:22 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

"Star" <star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
news:11ecmp3agtefd19@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi Rex,
> Haven't been in the ng for several days, sorry!!
> I see Hugh, MVP has not replied back, but Brian, MVP has!!

I replied to you post despite the MVP notation
in the subject line. If an NG was limited to MVP responses,
no NG would ever get off the ground.

Regardless of that, I am not an MVP,
and have never claimed to be one.

I did not respond further, as you appeared to be
in very good hands with the other responders,
and did not seem willing to pursue the line I advocated,
a decision that you are quite entitled to make,
and one which I have NO problem with.
Anonymous
July 26, 2005 7:54:06 PM

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"Star" <star@everywhere.com> wrote in message
news:11ecngh3gimavf2@corp.supernews.com...
>
> Brian, can you give feedback regarding this post and my problem w/msgsrv32.

I did with the link I provided. Have you checked it out?
http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/ermsgs32.htm


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Anonymous
July 27, 2005 2:03:48 AM

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"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23Ut6ONgkFHA.3968@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You're an MVP as far as *I* am concerned, Hugh.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
Thank you, sir.

I haven't mentioned it before,
but your choice of domain name
for your website is truly inspired.

Not to mention subtle. I like that.
Anonymous
July 29, 2005 10:20:42 PM

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That was a gradual evolution back in the days when I was getting into
the business (only 8 years ago, if you must know.) Just kept playing
with my name for this and that username requirement until I hit upon
GRYST (and found nobody else using it anywhere.) From there it wasn't
probably more than three or four healthy swigs from the brandy bottle
before the obvious extension blossomed into being.

Still trying to come up with a good logo, though, something I've been
working on (well, *thinking* on) with renewed vigor now that I'm fully
focused on my computer repair/consulting business. I'll be sure to let
you in on the candidates when I've fleshed them out a bit more. A tall,
long-haired, bearded "miller" in apron, etc., processing various
"computer" things through the mill. A few less detailed ones... My
challenge is to distill the detailed version into a more simplified
abstract design. Which, of course, creates a feedback loop into the
original design. Mostly a lot of garbage so far, <s>.

Probably get Dad to help me if I get too stuck, as he has a fair amount
of experience creating wrought-iron or cut steel silhouettes for
signage. But I've been procrastinating, simply because I got real burned
out on graphic design and can't bring myself to get back into it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
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> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23Ut6ONgkFHA.3968@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> You're an MVP as far as *I* am concerned, Hugh.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS MVP Shell/User
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
> Thank you, sir.
>
> I haven't mentioned it before,
> but your choice of domain name
> for your website is truly inspired.
>
> Not to mention subtle. I like that.
>
>
!