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I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain the same.
But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used before in
win95)

Any ideas how to solve this...?

Thanks in advance

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There is *nothing* listed for USB Devices in Device Manager? (At bottom
of Device Manger list.)Or is it simply not detecting a USB peripheral
that has been connected to your USB port(s)? If it has detected and
installed a USB Host Controller and a hub (at least one of each), but
you simply aren't seeing the peripheral that's been attached, you need
to detach that device, then install the proper drivers for it, then
reattach the device.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
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>I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain the
>same.
> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used before
> in
> win95)
>
> Any ideas how to solve this...?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>

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USB controllers are there... and the drivers are installed... (i.e. Vivitar
3615 and Scanjet 4070) but... the devices are not recognized... it just
happens... nothing!

This devices work fine in WinXP on the same machine

Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
OVQbnmFlFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> There is *nothing* listed for USB Devices in Device Manager? (At bottom
> of Device Manger list.)Or is it simply not detecting a USB peripheral
> that has been connected to your USB port(s)? If it has detected and
> installed a USB Host Controller and a hub (at least one of each), but
> you simply aren't seeing the peripheral that's been attached, you need
> to detach that device, then install the proper drivers for it, then
> reattach the device.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain the
> >same.
> > But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used before
> > in
> > win95)
> >
> > Any ideas how to solve this...?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
>

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I think... that Win95 doesn't recognize USB and as it is an upgrade of
win98...
maybe... that could be the problem?


Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
OVQbnmFlFHA.3300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> There is *nothing* listed for USB Devices in Device Manager? (At bottom
> of Device Manger list.)Or is it simply not detecting a USB peripheral
> that has been connected to your USB port(s)? If it has detected and
> installed a USB Host Controller and a hub (at least one of each), but
> you simply aren't seeing the peripheral that's been attached, you need
> to detach that device, then install the proper drivers for it, then
> reattach the device.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain the
> >same.
> > But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used before
> > in
> > win95)
> >
> > Any ideas how to solve this...?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> >
>

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"Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
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> I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain the same.

That may be the problem.

Have you checked the BIOS Setup to see if
there is an option to enable USB
which is currently set to "Disabled" ?


> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used before in
> win95)
>
> Any ideas how to solve this...?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>

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I'm fairly certain that if the problem is that USB is disabled in BIOS,
the devices wouldn't show up in Device Manager, at least not without
some alerts.

I'm a bit more certain that after uninstalling them in Safe Mode and
then rebooting to reinstall, they would not be detected. I'm not
absolutely positive, and if anyone has any evidence on the subject I'd
be interested.

Note: I do know that in Windows XP it will detect and install certain
types of hardware even though it's been disabled in BIOS, but I don't
recall that happening in Win9x.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
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>
> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain the
>> same.
>
> That may be the problem.
>
> Have you checked the BIOS Setup to see if
> there is an option to enable USB
> which is currently set to "Disabled" ?
>
>
>> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used before
>> in
>> win95)
>>
>> Any ideas how to solve this...?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>
>

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I'll take a look at the bios too.... thanks..
;)


Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
u1fugMKlFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I'm fairly certain that if the problem is that USB is disabled in BIOS,
> the devices wouldn't show up in Device Manager, at least not without
> some alerts.
>
> I'm a bit more certain that after uninstalling them in Safe Mode and
> then rebooting to reinstall, they would not be detected. I'm not
> absolutely positive, and if anyone has any evidence on the subject I'd
> be interested.
>
> Note: I do know that in Windows XP it will detect and install certain
> types of hardware even though it's been disabled in BIOS, but I don't
> recall that happening in Win9x.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
> news:%23IZc2xHlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain the
> >> same.
> >
> > That may be the problem.
> >
> > Have you checked the BIOS Setup to see if
> > there is an option to enable USB
> > which is currently set to "Disabled" ?
> >
> >
> >> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used before
> >> in
> >> win95)
> >>
> >> Any ideas how to solve this...?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>

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Note that there might very well be USB items that are disabled in BIOS
relating to something like "Legacy Support"--it's intended to let BIOS
and other OSes access the USB even before Windows drivers are loaded.
USB keyboard/mouse, for instance. Whether or not that is
enabled/disabled shouldn't be a problem, but I'd enable it all anyway,
just in case.

Just wanted you to be forewarned that even if you find some USB disabled
in BIOS, enabling it/them may not change a thing.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
news:%23YwQOVKlFHA.1464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I'll take a look at the bios too.... thanks..
> ;)
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
> noticias
> u1fugMKlFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> I'm fairly certain that if the problem is that USB is disabled in
>> BIOS,
>> the devices wouldn't show up in Device Manager, at least not without
>> some alerts.
>>
>> I'm a bit more certain that after uninstalling them in Safe Mode and
>> then rebooting to reinstall, they would not be detected. I'm not
>> absolutely positive, and if anyone has any evidence on the subject
>> I'd
>> be interested.
>>
>> Note: I do know that in Windows XP it will detect and install certain
>> types of hardware even though it's been disabled in BIOS, but I don't
>> recall that happening in Win9x.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS MVP Shell/User
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> "Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
>> news:%23IZc2xHlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain
>> >> the
>> >> same.
>> >
>> > That may be the problem.
>> >
>> > Have you checked the BIOS Setup to see if
>> > there is an option to enable USB
>> > which is currently set to "Disabled" ?
>> >
>> >
>> >> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used
>> >> before
>> >> in
>> >> win95)
>> >>
>> >> Any ideas how to solve this...?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

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Well, my friends... here is it...
still it doesn't work...

There is something like "Enable USB for DOS" What is supposed to be that?
anyway... it was enabled
But.... there was another like "...Thumbdrive.." right below the " USB-DOS"
I enabled it too...

But nothing...

In the Device Manager there are three USB hubs... three USB host
controllers... and one VIA PCI host controller...

There were a non-identified device (yellow icon) I deleted it but it still
doen't recognize the devices...


Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
#lE2DZKlFHA.1044@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Note that there might very well be USB items that are disabled in BIOS
> relating to something like "Legacy Support"--it's intended to let BIOS
> and other OSes access the USB even before Windows drivers are loaded.
> USB keyboard/mouse, for instance. Whether or not that is
> enabled/disabled shouldn't be a problem, but I'd enable it all anyway,
> just in case.
>
> Just wanted you to be forewarned that even if you find some USB disabled
> in BIOS, enabling it/them may not change a thing.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> news:%23YwQOVKlFHA.1464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > I'll take a look at the bios too.... thanks..
> > ;)
> >
> >
> > Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
> > noticias
> > u1fugMKlFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> I'm fairly certain that if the problem is that USB is disabled in
> >> BIOS,
> >> the devices wouldn't show up in Device Manager, at least not without
> >> some alerts.
> >>
> >> I'm a bit more certain that after uninstalling them in Safe Mode and
> >> then rebooting to reinstall, they would not be detected. I'm not
> >> absolutely positive, and if anyone has any evidence on the subject
> >> I'd
> >> be interested.
> >>
> >> Note: I do know that in Windows XP it will detect and install certain
> >> types of hardware even though it's been disabled in BIOS, but I don't
> >> recall that happening in Win9x.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS MVP Shell/User
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >>
> >> "Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23IZc2xHlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files remain
> >> >> the
> >> >> same.
> >> >
> >> > That may be the problem.
> >> >
> >> > Have you checked the BIOS Setup to see if
> >> > there is an option to enable USB
> >> > which is currently set to "Disabled" ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used
> >> >> before
> >> >> in
> >> >> win95)
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas how to solve this...?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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This is after deleting all USB devices in Safe Mode and reinstalling as
per my suggestions?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
news:Oq1I9eKlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Well, my friends... here is it...
> still it doesn't work...
>
> There is something like "Enable USB for DOS" What is supposed to be
> that?
> anyway... it was enabled
> But.... there was another like "...Thumbdrive.." right below the "
> USB-DOS"
> I enabled it too...
>
> But nothing...
>
> In the Device Manager there are three USB hubs... three USB host
> controllers... and one VIA PCI host controller...
>
> There were a non-identified device (yellow icon) I deleted it but it
> still
> doen't recognize the devices...
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
> noticias
> #lE2DZKlFHA.1044@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Note that there might very well be USB items that are disabled in
>> BIOS
>> relating to something like "Legacy Support"--it's intended to let
>> BIOS
>> and other OSes access the USB even before Windows drivers are loaded.
>> USB keyboard/mouse, for instance. Whether or not that is
>> enabled/disabled shouldn't be a problem, but I'd enable it all
>> anyway,
>> just in case.
>>
>> Just wanted you to be forewarned that even if you find some USB
>> disabled
>> in BIOS, enabling it/them may not change a thing.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS MVP Shell/User
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23YwQOVKlFHA.1464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > I'll take a look at the bios too.... thanks..
>> > ;)
>> >
>> >
>> > Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
>> > noticias
>> > u1fugMKlFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> I'm fairly certain that if the problem is that USB is disabled in
>> >> BIOS,
>> >> the devices wouldn't show up in Device Manager, at least not
>> >> without
>> >> some alerts.
>> >>
>> >> I'm a bit more certain that after uninstalling them in Safe Mode
>> >> and
>> >> then rebooting to reinstall, they would not be detected. I'm not
>> >> absolutely positive, and if anyone has any evidence on the subject
>> >> I'd
>> >> be interested.
>> >>
>> >> Note: I do know that in Windows XP it will detect and install
>> >> certain
>> >> types of hardware even though it's been disabled in BIOS, but I
>> >> don't
>> >> recall that happening in Win9x.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>> >>
>> >> "Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23IZc2xHlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files
>> >> >> remain
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> same.
>> >> >
>> >> > That may be the problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you checked the BIOS Setup to see if
>> >> > there is an option to enable USB
>> >> > which is currently set to "Disabled" ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used
>> >> >> before
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> win95)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Any ideas how to solve this...?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks in advance
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

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Welll..
It worked..
but... adter deleting all USB controlers (there were no devices) and
reinstalliing them.. again....
with the cam conected and.... turned on...
it installed all the controleers... and... finally detected de "Digital
Camera"
It works fine now...

I havn't test the scanner.. I hope it will work fine too... but let's seee
tomorrow... it's too late now..
the scanner is in the office... At least I can download the pictures
directyl on muy win98 session.. ;)

but... tell me.. what was the problem? the drivers seem to be the same....
anyway...

;) thanks a lot..


Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de noticias
O5K6VILlFHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> This is after deleting all USB devices in Safe Mode and reinstalling as
> per my suggestions?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> news:Oq1I9eKlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Well, my friends... here is it...
> > still it doesn't work...
> >
> > There is something like "Enable USB for DOS" What is supposed to be
> > that?
> > anyway... it was enabled
> > But.... there was another like "...Thumbdrive.." right below the "
> > USB-DOS"
> > I enabled it too...
> >
> > But nothing...
> >
> > In the Device Manager there are three USB hubs... three USB host
> > controllers... and one VIA PCI host controller...
> >
> > There were a non-identified device (yellow icon) I deleted it but it
> > still
> > doen't recognize the devices...
> >
> >
> > Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
> > noticias
> > #lE2DZKlFHA.1044@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Note that there might very well be USB items that are disabled in
> >> BIOS
> >> relating to something like "Legacy Support"--it's intended to let
> >> BIOS
> >> and other OSes access the USB even before Windows drivers are loaded.
> >> USB keyboard/mouse, for instance. Whether or not that is
> >> enabled/disabled shouldn't be a problem, but I'd enable it all
> >> anyway,
> >> just in case.
> >>
> >> Just wanted you to be forewarned that even if you find some USB
> >> disabled
> >> in BIOS, enabling it/them may not change a thing.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS MVP Shell/User
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >>
> >> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23YwQOVKlFHA.1464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> > I'll take a look at the bios too.... thanks..
> >> > ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
> >> > noticias
> >> > u1fugMKlFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> >> I'm fairly certain that if the problem is that USB is disabled in
> >> >> BIOS,
> >> >> the devices wouldn't show up in Device Manager, at least not
> >> >> without
> >> >> some alerts.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm a bit more certain that after uninstalling them in Safe Mode
> >> >> and
> >> >> then rebooting to reinstall, they would not be detected. I'm not
> >> >> absolutely positive, and if anyone has any evidence on the subject
> >> >> I'd
> >> >> be interested.
> >> >>
> >> >> Note: I do know that in Windows XP it will detect and install
> >> >> certain
> >> >> types of hardware even though it's been disabled in BIOS, but I
> >> >> don't
> >> >> recall that happening in Win9x.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS MVP Shell/User
> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> "Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:%23IZc2xHlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files
> >> >> >> remain
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> same.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That may be the problem.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Have you checked the BIOS Setup to see if
> >> >> > there is an option to enable USB
> >> >> > which is currently set to "Disabled" ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never used
> >> >> >> before
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> win95)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Any ideas how to solve this...?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks in advance
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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When you "install" a hardware device, you aren't just plopping certain
files into certain folders. The procedures include adding many, many
Registry and other configuration file settings, many of which are
variable depending on the existing configuration of all the rest of the
system. Maybe the first install didn't get it right, or if you've
uninstalled/reinstalled/installed other devices, particularly the ones
that the USB (in this example) depend upon--its "parent" devices--it may
have caused the original configuration to no longer be appropriate. Thus
the advice to reinstall.

We use Safe Mode for this purpose primarily so that we are sure to see
all the Registry's list of hardware, since in Normal mode we only see
what's been loaded at startup, not all of the possible installations of
the device that are noted in the Registry. In Safe Mode, you see the
entire list and are more certain of finding all the possible "ghosts".

Your experience isn't the usual one--usually, attaching USB peripherals
is the *last* step in their installation procedures. First make sure
the controllers and hubs are installed, *then* install support software
for the peripheral, then finally attach the peripheral itself. But the
odd machine would be one that always acts as expected. There are always
exceptions around to prove the rules.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
news:uf$ylPNlFHA.2852@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Welll..
> It worked..
> but... adter deleting all USB controlers (there were no devices) and
> reinstalliing them.. again....
> with the cam conected and.... turned on...
> it installed all the controleers... and... finally detected de
> "Digital
> Camera"
> It works fine now...
>
> I havn't test the scanner.. I hope it will work fine too... but let's
> seee
> tomorrow... it's too late now..
> the scanner is in the office... At least I can download the pictures
> directyl on muy win98 session.. ;)
>
> but... tell me.. what was the problem? the drivers seem to be the
> same....
> anyway...
>
> ;) thanks a lot..
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
> noticias
> O5K6VILlFHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> This is after deleting all USB devices in Safe Mode and reinstalling
>> as
>> per my suggestions?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS MVP Shell/User
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
>> news:Oq1I9eKlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > Well, my friends... here is it...
>> > still it doesn't work...
>> >
>> > There is something like "Enable USB for DOS" What is supposed to
>> > be
>> > that?
>> > anyway... it was enabled
>> > But.... there was another like "...Thumbdrive.." right below the "
>> > USB-DOS"
>> > I enabled it too...
>> >
>> > But nothing...
>> >
>> > In the Device Manager there are three USB hubs... three USB host
>> > controllers... and one VIA PCI host controller...
>> >
>> > There were a non-identified device (yellow icon) I deleted it but
>> > it
>> > still
>> > doen't recognize the devices...
>> >
>> >
>> > Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
>> > noticias
>> > #lE2DZKlFHA.1044@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> Note that there might very well be USB items that are disabled in
>> >> BIOS
>> >> relating to something like "Legacy Support"--it's intended to let
>> >> BIOS
>> >> and other OSes access the USB even before Windows drivers are
>> >> loaded.
>> >> USB keyboard/mouse, for instance. Whether or not that is
>> >> enabled/disabled shouldn't be a problem, but I'd enable it all
>> >> anyway,
>> >> just in case.
>> >>
>> >> Just wanted you to be forewarned that even if you find some USB
>> >> disabled
>> >> in BIOS, enabling it/them may not change a thing.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>> >>
>> >> "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23YwQOVKlFHA.1464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> > I'll take a look at the bios too.... thanks..
>> >> > ;)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje de
>> >> > noticias
>> >> > u1fugMKlFHA.3568@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> I'm fairly certain that if the problem is that USB is disabled
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> BIOS,
>> >> >> the devices wouldn't show up in Device Manager, at least not
>> >> >> without
>> >> >> some alerts.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm a bit more certain that after uninstalling them in Safe
>> >> >> Mode
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> then rebooting to reinstall, they would not be detected. I'm
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> absolutely positive, and if anyone has any evidence on the
>> >> >> subject
>> >> >> I'd
>> >> >> be interested.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Note: I do know that in Windows XP it will detect and install
>> >> >> certain
>> >> >> types of hardware even though it's been disabled in BIOS, but I
>> >> >> don't
>> >> >> recall that happening in Win9x.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>> >> >> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:%23IZc2xHlFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Vincent" <20@3.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:%23e1%23ETFlFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> I have just updatep my win95 to win98SE. Config and files
>> >> >> >> remain
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> same.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That may be the problem.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Have you checked the BIOS Setup to see if
>> >> >> > there is an option to enable USB
>> >> >> > which is currently set to "Disabled" ?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> But win98 Can't detect any USB device (which, btw, never
>> >> >> >> used
>> >> >> >> before
>> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> win95)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Any ideas how to solve this...?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks in advance
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

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please permit me to use this thread. I have anothr type of problem. My
webcam and a brodband modem are connected to usb. But sometimes the
computer is not able to "detect" the usb and I may not be able to use either
of the two devices. I shutdown (not merely restart) then the computer is
able to detect and everything is ok. USB was installed later.

windows 98SE
the information as in <system information> is given below:

OPTi 82C861 PCI to USB Open Host Controller
USB
Registry Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\PCI\VEN_1045&DEV_C861&SUBSYS_C8611045&REV_10\10F000
Alloc resources: Logical Configuration 0
IRQ: 11 Mask: xDEB8
Memory Address Range: Base= xD5011000 End= xD5011FFF Min=
x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: None
Filtered resources: Logical Configuration 0
IRQ: 11 Mask: xDEB8
Memory Address Range: Base= xD5011000 End= xD5011FFF Min=
x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
Basic resources: Logical Configuration 0
IRQ: 0 Mask: xDEB8
Memory Address Range: Base= xD5011000 End= xD5011FFF Min=
x00000000 Max= xFFFFFFFF
HW Revision: 016
Driver: USB\0000
Driver Date: 4-23-1999
Driver: usbui.dll
File Size: 147456
(0x24000)
File Date: 4/23/1999
10:22 PM
Company Name: Microsoft
Corporation
File Version: 4.10.2222
Driver: usbhub.sys
File Size: 35680
(0x8B60)
File Date: 4/23/1999
10:22 PM
Company Name: Microsoft
Corporation
File Version: 4.10.2222
Driver: usbd.sys
File Size: 18912
(0x49E0)
File Date: 4/23/1999
10:22 PM
Company Name: Microsoft
Corporation
File Version: 4.10.2222
Driver: openhci.sys
File Size: 23632
(0x5C50)
File Date: 4/23/1999
10:22 PM
Company Name: Microsoft
Corporation
File Version: 4.10.2222

USB Root Hub
USB
Registry Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI&VEN_1045&DEV_C861&SUBSYS_C8611045&R
EV_10&10F000
Alloc resources: None
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: None
Filtered resources: None
Basic resources: None
Driver: USB\0001
Driver Date: 4-23-1999


any suggestions. thanks and regards

====================================================

Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:#08BlqOlFHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> When you "install" a hardware device, you aren't just plopping certain
> files into certain folders. The procedures include adding many, many
> Registry and other configuration file settings, many of which are
> variable depending on the existing configuration of all the rest of the
> system. Maybe the first install didn't get it right, or if you've
> uninstalled/reinstalled/installed other devices, particularly the ones
> that the USB (in this example) depend upon--its "parent" devices--it may
> have caused the original configuration to no longer be appropriate. Thus
> the advice to reinstall.
>
> We use Safe Mode for this purpose primarily so that we are sure to see
> all the Registry's list of hardware, since in Normal mode we only see
> what's been loaded at startup, not all of the possible installations of
> the device that are noted in the Registry. In Safe Mode, you see the
> entire list and are more certain of finding all the possible "ghosts".
>
> Your experience isn't the usual one--usually, attaching USB peripherals
> is the *last* step in their installation procedures. First make sure
> the controllers and hubs are installed, *then* install support software
> for the peripheral, then finally attach the peripheral itself. But the
> odd machine would be one that always acts as expected. There are always
> exceptions around to prove the rules.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>

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