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You are right. I tested it myself an hour before your post, & Defrag was
no cure. It appears to be...
(a) A Resources problem maybe-- because I always get a low resources
warning these days during the delete that triggers the effect. Most of
the time Resource Meter does not show them to be low, though.
(b) A Recycle Bin problem definitely-- because I have a 3rd party app
(PCMag's HDValet) that can do unlimited deletes UNLESS I let it put the
files into the Bin. It can delete them to oblivion OR to a holding
folder of it's own with no problem at all.
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
news:O$YwI7snFHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| PCR wrote:
| > You are welcome. Here is an interesting point about Defrag: it
removes
| > deleted items from the FAT...
| >
| >
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q136836
| > Disk Defragmenter May Seem to Stop Responding
| > .......Quote................
| > In particular, because removing deleted folder entries can take a
long
| > time, emptying the Temporary Internet Files folder or deleting a
large
| > number of files from another folder on your hard disk can cause this
| > problem to occur. When the problem occurs for this reason, it occurs
| > when Disk Defragmenter is between 5 and 10 percent finished because
this
| > is when Disk Defragmenter removes deleted folder entries.
| > .......EOQ...................
| >
| > I wonder whether it is the deleted folder entries still in the FAT
that
| > causes the problem in Explorer too. Then...
|
| I would say no since after a fresh defrag is done the problem is still
| there, however I think the article is talking more about pointing out
that
| a defrag can take longer when it has to remove those unlinked deleted
| folder entries that are still there. It may be all still in the
ballpark
| though but I'm not gonna open my test bench with this again this time
| unless its wanted from MS or thereabouts. It was an interesting read
| though.
|
| > (1) Do a Scandisk, as every good Defrag is preceded by a recent
| > Scandisk.
| >
| > (2) Trigger the problem in Explorer with a massive delete.
| > After that, a single delete will be sluggish.
| >
| > (3) Don't reboot. Do a Defrag, instead.
| >
| > (4) Delete a useless file. Was the sluggishness gone?
|
| Nope.
|
| thanks though,
| Rick
|
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
| > news:eFRdB$nnFHA.3828@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| >| Hi PCR,
| >|
| >| Yep love those zero byte files makes it so easy to test this.
| >| thanks for the reply and checking it too.
| >|
| >| Rick
| >|
| >| PCR wrote:
| >| > Too bad! I verify the delete problem is not solved in Explorer
after
| >| > taking that IE Cumulative Q896727. One thousand of Blanton's zero
byte
| >| > files did delete well. After another two thousand, Explorer
showed
| >| > it's customary sluggishness doing any work &/or updating it's
| >| > display. Also, I did get that low resources warning toward the
end of
| >| > the 2nd delete. Yet, Resource Meter shows: User 65%; GDI
80%...!...
| >| > OE continues to work well, as I imagine all things non-Explorer
do.
| >| > Therefore, I'll hold off on the reboot that "cures" Explorer.
| >| >
| >| > Thanks for the heads-up on the cumulative, though.
| >| >
| >| >
| >| > --
| >| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| >| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| >| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| >| > should things get worse after this,
| >| > PCR
| >| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| >| > "Rick Chauvin" <justask@nospamz.com> wrote in message
| >| > news:%23vYbP7bnFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| >| >| The MS05-038 896727 Cumulative for IE6 unfortunately doesn't fix
the
| >| >| long time problem of the specific IE6x W98x file delete hang
issue
| >| >|
| >| >| Not that is was suppose to mind you, but I had half-hoped they
would
| >| >| of taken care of this long time problem at the same time as the
| >| >| current update, and this would of been a good opportunity to
slide
| >| >| it in since I see that the Browseui.dll was yet once again
reworked
| >| >| (compared all the changes made using hex)
| >| >|
| >| >| Here are the current links outlining this anomaly for those that
| >| >| haven't head about it yet if you wanted to know what my post is
| >| >| about.
| >| >|
| >| >|
http://cquirke.mvps.org/bexp1.htm
| >| >| &
| >| >|
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm
| >| >| &
| >| >|
http://www.ptcnh.net/~rdchauvin/W98xIE6xBug.htm
| >| >|
| >| >| Rick
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