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"pete" <pete@maildox.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:53:57 -0000, "Ken" <noone@nowhere> wrote:
>
>>In my local Staples it said 6.5p for a page with 20% coverage.
>>
>>Does this sound right?
>>
>
> Perhaps for "a" laser, but not for all lasers.
> A bit like saying "cars, 37 mpg, does it sound right"
It was a Konica Minolta 2400 for which I always thought the cost per page
figures quoted were for 5% coverage - a quarter of the Staples statement.
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:14:51 -0000, "Ken" <noone@nowhere> wrote:
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>"pete" <pete@maildox.com> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:53:57 -0000, "Ken" <noone@nowhere> wrote:
>>
>>>In my local Staples it said 6.5p for a page with 20% coverage.
>>>
>>>Does this sound right?
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps for "a" laser, but not for all lasers.
>> A bit like saying "cars, 37 mpg, does it sound right"
>
>It was a Konica Minolta 2400 for which I always thought the cost per page
>figures quoted were for 5% coverage - a quarter of the Staples statement.
>
>Ken
>
For peace of mind, you can ask Minolta direct
info@bpe.konicaminolta.co.uk
or phone them 01784 442255
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:14:51 -0000, Ken wrote:
>>>In my local Staples it said 6.5p for a page with 20% coverage.
>>>
>>>Does this sound right?
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps for "a" laser, but not for all lasers.
>> A bit like saying "cars, 37 mpg, does it sound right"
>
> It was a Konica Minolta 2400 for which I always thought the cost per page
> figures quoted were for 5% coverage - a quarter of the Staples statement.
They probably mean 5% of black, cyan, magenta and yellow which makes 20%.
The figure of 6.5p seems quite low, I just did a quick calculation and got
it to around 7.8p + VAT.
These calculations are never very accurate because they are based on the
manufacturers stated life of the consumables which always achieved in
optimum conditions not in real life.
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I suspect Staples is using 5% per color and coming up with 20% coverage.
Usually, the manufacturers use 5% per color as a basis. However, most
colors are made up of several overlayed toner colors, so the cverage of
the paper surface is not defined quite as simply.
Art
Ken wrote:
> "pete" <pete@maildox.com> wrote in message
> news:gidb11p5unrntr8gsme639fs3u49ij6rhg@4ax.com...
>
>>On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:53:57 -0000, "Ken" <noone@nowhere> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In my local Staples it said 6.5p for a page with 20% coverage.
>>>
>>>Does this sound right?
>>>
>>
>>Perhaps for "a" laser, but not for all lasers.
>>A bit like saying "cars, 37 mpg, does it sound right"
>
>
> It was a Konica Minolta 2400 for which I always thought the cost per page
> figures quoted were for 5% coverage - a quarter of the Staples statement.
>
> Ken
>
>
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Ken wrote:
> "pete" <pete@maildox.com> wrote in message
> news:gidb11p5unrntr8gsme639fs3u49ij6rhg@4ax.com...
>
>>On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:53:57 -0000, "Ken" <noone@nowhere> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In my local Staples it said 6.5p for a page with 20% coverage.
>>>
>>>Does this sound right?
>>>
>>
>>Perhaps for "a" laser, but not for all lasers.
>>A bit like saying "cars, 37 mpg, does it sound right"
> Base for cost comparisosn
>
> It was a Konica Minolta 2400 for which I always thought the cost per page
> figures quoted were for 5% coverage - a quarter of the Staples statement.
>
> Ken
Staples gave you the 5% coverage figure at 5% for each colour, and since
there are four colours, quoted 20% coverage. This is nonsense IMO, but
common. The correct quote IMO should be "at 5% coverage, using all four
colours." But what that means in terms of coverage for each colour is
another question. 5% coverage is 12 pt text double spaced with approx.
2cm margin on an A4 or 8-1/2x11 page -- or so it was described to me
once, when I asked. If you use coloured text, obviously you still have
5% coverage, just a different combination of inks.
For black (single colour) printing the 5% coverage standard is well
established, and works if accompanied by qualifiers such as "at letter
quality printing." It's also related to the real world, since a typical
business letter with letterhead amounts to about 5% coverage. (Note that
this standard refers to the amount of space taken up by each character,
_not_ to the amount of space taken by the ink dots, which is another
issue, see below.)
20% coverage would be a strip about 12cm wide from one edge of the page
to the other. What this means in terms of % coverage in terms of ink is
something else again. It depends on whether the inks are layered, or
printed next to each other (like the pixels on a screen), or partly
overlapping, or spaced apart. That's a matter of printer technology and
printing quality. I've been told that different printers lay down the
ink or toner differently.
Then there is the issue of draft vs high-quality printing. Draft
printing will use as little as one quarter of the ink used by HQ
printing - which means than "coverage" is less for the same size image
or typeface. These considerations make "x% coverage" a term with little
relation to the real world use when it comes to colour printing.
IMO, colour printing costs should be based on full colour, HQ 4" x 6"
(10cm x 15cm) prints. Not that I insist on this size - I just want a
common base of comparison. "x% coverage" is not good enough for colour
printing.
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