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Anonymous
August 24, 2005 11:43:31 PM

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I don’t know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I assume it
was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know what it
is? TIA

C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE

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Anonymous
August 24, 2005 11:43:32 PM

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Lorraine wrote:
> I don’t know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I
> assume it was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key.
> Anyone know what it is? TIA
>
> C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE

It is Outlook Express...your email program.

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Anonymous
August 24, 2005 11:43:32 PM

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"Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> I don’t know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I assume it
> was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know what it
> is? TIA
>
> C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
>
Msimn.exe is the executable for OE. Perhaps OE is trying to connect on its own
or some 'program' is using OE to access the Internet.
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Anonymous
August 24, 2005 11:43:32 PM

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That's Outlook Express. When you say "calling home", we see that as saying
that the program wants to dial up. Do you use OE? What is the problem you
want to solve? An unexpected prompt to dial up, or what?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>I don’t know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I assume
>it
> was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know what
> it
> is? TIA
>
> C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
>
Anonymous
August 25, 2005 12:25:03 AM

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"Buffalo" <eric(nospam)@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:lc6dnQEj_MroTZHeRVn-sw@comcast.com...
>
> "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > I don't know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I assume
it
> > was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know what
it
> > is? TIA
> >
> > C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
> >
> Msimn.exe is the executable for OE. Perhaps OE is trying to connect on its own
> or some 'program' is using OE to access the Internet.
>
>
Thank you for the replies. Buffalo, I think maybe you are correct in that it is
another program trying to use it. I am not sending or receiving email when I get
a notice that it is trying to reach a URL? numbered blah, blah (I'll have to
look closer next time). I just stop it. I'll try a good clean up and delete some
of the programs I've been testing and see what happens.
Anonymous
August 25, 2005 12:37:21 AM

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Yes, Gary I get an unexpected prompt that OE wants to connect to a URL or ISP.
Sorry but I'm not sure as I just stop it. I paid little attention until today,
which is about the 3rd day it occurred. It only happened once a day. I am using
w98se and OE. This has never happened in the last 5 years or so and it started a
couple of days ago. I'm connected to the Internet doing something else when this
prompt pops up.


"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uIDWfkOqFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> That's Outlook Express. When you say "calling home", we see that as saying
> that the program wants to dial up. Do you use OE? What is the problem you
> want to solve? An unexpected prompt to dial up, or what?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >I don't know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I assume
> >it
> > was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know what
> > it
> > is? TIA
> >
> > C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
> >
>
>
Anonymous
August 25, 2005 12:37:22 AM

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Assuming OE is running in the background when this happens, check your
settings at:

OE Tools > Options > General > Check for new messages every XX minutes (OE's
prolly polling for new messages)

OE Tools > Options > Security > Warn me when... (make sure this is checked)
--
OE6-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
OE General newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP

Inside Outlook Express
www.insideoe.com


Lorraine wrote:
> Yes, Gary I get an unexpected prompt that OE wants to connect to a URL or
> ISP. Sorry but I'm not sure as I just stop it. I paid little attention
> until today, which is about the 3rd day it occurred. It only happened
> once a day. I am using w98se and OE. This has never happened in the last
> 5 years or so and it started a couple of days ago. I'm connected to the
> Internet doing something else when this prompt pops up.
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uIDWfkOqFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > That's Outlook Express. When you say "calling home", we see that as
> > saying that the program wants to dial up. Do you use OE? What is the
> > problem you want to solve? An unexpected prompt to dial up, or what?
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> >
> > "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > I don't know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I
> > > assume it
> > > was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know
> > > what it
> > > is? TIA
> > >
> > > C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
Anonymous
August 25, 2005 12:37:22 AM

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In addition to Robear's suggestions, I'd want to do a serious scan of your
system for malware. See my article at
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:5U4Pe.131214$5N3.103278@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Yes, Gary I get an unexpected prompt that OE wants to connect to a URL or
> ISP.
> Sorry but I'm not sure as I just stop it. I paid little attention until
> today,
> which is about the 3rd day it occurred. It only happened once a day. I am
> using
> w98se and OE. This has never happened in the last 5 years or so and it
> started a
> couple of days ago. I'm connected to the Internet doing something else
> when this
> prompt pops up.
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:uIDWfkOqFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> That's Outlook Express. When you say "calling home", we see that as
>> saying
>> that the program wants to dial up. Do you use OE? What is the problem you
>> want to solve? An unexpected prompt to dial up, or what?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>
>> "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> >I don't know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I
>> >assume
>> >it
>> > was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know
>> > what
>> > it
>> > is? TIA
>> >
>> > C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
>> >
>>
>>
>
Anonymous
August 25, 2005 2:25:23 AM

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Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show below. Your point
about OE running in the background could be correct as I sometimes check email
and/or newsgroups but I don't always close the program. I'll have to watch that.
But even if OE is running in the background it should not just try to dial out
unless a program initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye on
it when it happens again and write down exactly who it is sending too.

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eDNaVMPqFHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Assuming OE is running in the background when this happens, check your
> settings at:
>
> OE Tools > Options > General > Check for new messages every XX minutes (OE's
> prolly polling for new messages)
>
> OE Tools > Options > Security > Warn me when... (make sure this is checked)
> --
> OE6-specific newsgroup:
>
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> OE General newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
>
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>
> Inside Outlook Express
> www.insideoe.com
>
>
> Lorraine wrote:
> > Yes, Gary I get an unexpected prompt that OE wants to connect to a URL or
> > ISP. Sorry but I'm not sure as I just stop it. I paid little attention
> > until today, which is about the 3rd day it occurred. It only happened
> > once a day. I am using w98se and OE. This has never happened in the last
> > 5 years or so and it started a couple of days ago. I'm connected to the
> > Internet doing something else when this prompt pops up.
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:uIDWfkOqFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > That's Outlook Express. When you say "calling home", we see that as
> > > saying that the program wants to dial up. Do you use OE? What is the
> > > problem you want to solve? An unexpected prompt to dial up, or what?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > >
> > > "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > > news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > I don't know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I
> > > > assume it
> > > > was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know
> > > > what it
> > > > is? TIA
> > > >
> > > > C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
>
Anonymous
August 25, 2005 2:25:24 AM

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> ...But even if OE is running in the
> background it should not just try to dial out unless a program initiated
> it? Could it be OE itself?

If OE's configured to check for new mail on a schedule, it will need to
connect to do so, yes.

OE shares IE's connection settings. See OE Tools > Options > Connection: Is
"Hang up after..." selected here? Should it be? (Assuming AT&T DSL, no.)

Also check your settings for every mail account here: OE Tools > Accounts >
Mail > [mail account] > Properties > Connection. Is "Always connect to this
account..." checked? Should it be? (Assuming AT&T DSL, no.)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP


Lorraine wrote:
> Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show below.
> Your point about OE running in the background could be correct as I
> sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always close the
> program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running in the
> background it should not just try to dial out unless a program initiated
> it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye on it when it happens
> again and write down exactly who it is sending too.
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eDNaVMPqFHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Assuming OE is running in the background when this happens, check your
> > settings at:
> >
> > OE Tools > Options > General > Check for new messages every XX minutes
> > (OE's prolly polling for new messages)
> >
> > OE Tools > Options > Security > Warn me when... (make sure this is
> > checked) --
> > OE6-specific newsgroup:
> >
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> > OE General newsgroup:
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
> >
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
> >
> > Inside Outlook Express
> > www.insideoe.com
> >
> >
> > Lorraine wrote:
> > > Yes, Gary I get an unexpected prompt that OE wants to connect to a
> > > URL or ISP. Sorry but I'm not sure as I just stop it. I paid little
> > > attention until today, which is about the 3rd day it occurred. It
> > > only happened once a day. I am using w98se and OE. This has never
> > > happened in the last 5 years or so and it started a couple of days
> > > ago. I'm connected to the Internet doing something else when this
> > > prompt pops up.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > > news:uIDWfkOqFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > > That's Outlook Express. When you say "calling home", we see that as
> > > > saying that the program wants to dial up. Do you use OE? What is the
> > > > problem you want to solve? An unexpected prompt to dial up, or what?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > >
> > > > "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > > > I don't know when I installed this but as it just stared recently
> > > > > I assume it
> > > > > was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone
> > > > > know what it
> > > > > is? TIA
> > > > >
> > > > > C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
Anonymous
August 25, 2005 2:27:05 AM

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I will certainly do that Gary and I will report results after the scan, good or
bad.. Thank you.

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uFUffhPqFHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> In addition to Robear's suggestions, I'd want to do a serious scan of your
> system for malware. See my article at
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:5U4Pe.131214$5N3.103278@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > Yes, Gary I get an unexpected prompt that OE wants to connect to a URL or
> > ISP.
> > Sorry but I'm not sure as I just stop it. I paid little attention until
> > today,
> > which is about the 3rd day it occurred. It only happened once a day. I am
> > using
> > w98se and OE. This has never happened in the last 5 years or so and it
> > started a
> > couple of days ago. I'm connected to the Internet doing something else
> > when this
> > prompt pops up.
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:uIDWfkOqFHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> That's Outlook Express. When you say "calling home", we see that as
> >> saying
> >> that the program wants to dial up. Do you use OE? What is the problem you
> >> want to solve? An unexpected prompt to dial up, or what?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >>
> >> "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> >> news:D 54Pe.131088$5N3.90893@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >> >I don't know when I installed this but as it just stared recently I
> >> >assume
> >> >it
> >> > was with a w98 update, MS Antivirus or MS Validation key. Anyone know
> >> > what
> >> > it
> >> > is? TIA
> >> >
> >> > C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\MSIMN.EXE
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 12:56:29 AM

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"dadiOH" <dadiOH@wherever.com> wrote in message
news:%23Su%23vYWqFHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Lorraine wrote:
> > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show below.
> > Your point about OE running in the background could be correct as I
> > sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always close the
> > program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running in the
> > background it should not just try to dial out unless a program
> > initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye on it
> > when it happens again and write down exactly who it is sending too.
>
>
> Since you said you were already connected to the internet when this
> occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and you have
> its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is exactly what
> it will do.
>
> Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that is
> telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE recently?

<snip>

OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at intervals. I am
running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing message. I keep IE
updated but I never updated OE specifically as I assumed that was part of the IE
update? Am I in error here? I realize that attachments are frowned upon here but
I have a 28 KB Word document which I can post showing the error box if
acceptable?

Kerio Personal Firewall
Outgoing Connection Alert!
'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to localhost
[127.0.0.1], port 1230
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 12:56:30 AM

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Well, you have to permit that one, or OE won't synchronize your NGs.
Uncheck it in Kerio to see.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:1gqPe.134546$5N3.13755@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
|
| "dadiOH" <dadiOH@wherever.com> wrote in message
| news:%23Su%23vYWqFHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > Lorraine wrote:
| > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show
below.
| > > Your point about OE running in the background could be correct as
I
| > > sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always close
the
| > > program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running in the
| > > background it should not just try to dial out unless a program
| > > initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye on it
| > > when it happens again and write down exactly who it is sending
too.
| >
| >
| > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when this
| > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and you
have
| > its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is exactly
what
| > it will do.
| >
| > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that is
| > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE recently?
|
| <snip>
|
| OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at intervals.
I am
| running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing message.
I keep IE
| updated but I never updated OE specifically as I assumed that was part
of the IE
| update? Am I in error here? I realize that attachments are frowned
upon here but
| I have a 28 KB Word document which I can post showing the error box if
| acceptable?
|
| Kerio Personal Firewall
| Outgoing Connection Alert!
| 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
localhost
| [127.0.0.1], port 1230
|
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 5:53:33 AM

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Thank you I will give it a try. Strange that it never came up before.

PCR, I promise that I will not sue but my lawyer might ;-)


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:o sK2zlcqFHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Well, you have to permit that one, or OE won't synchronize your NGs.
> Uncheck it in Kerio to see.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:1gqPe.134546$5N3.13755@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> |
> | "dadiOH" <dadiOH@wherever.com> wrote in message
> | news:%23Su%23vYWqFHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > Lorraine wrote:
> | > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show
> below.
> | > > Your point about OE running in the background could be correct as
> I
> | > > sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always close
> the
> | > > program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running in the
> | > > background it should not just try to dial out unless a program
> | > > initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye on it
> | > > when it happens again and write down exactly who it is sending
> too.
> | >
> | >
> | > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when this
> | > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and you
> have
> | > its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is exactly
> what
> | > it will do.
> | >
> | > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that is
> | > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE recently?
> |
> | <snip>
> |
> | OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at intervals.
> I am
> | running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing message.
> I keep IE
> | updated but I never updated OE specifically as I assumed that was part
> of the IE
> | update? Am I in error here? I realize that attachments are frowned
> upon here but
> | I have a 28 KB Word document which I can post showing the error box if
> | acceptable?
> |
> | Kerio Personal Firewall
> | Outgoing Connection Alert!
> | 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
> localhost
> | [127.0.0.1], port 1230
> |
>
>
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 4:51:18 PM

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Also, without permitting it, you may not post to a NG. Well, I know very
finite control is possible in Kerio, as to what manner of datagram may
be sent/received from a particular app & to/from which port or endpoint
address. Currently, though, I haven't fully explored what to do with all
that. I can hardly remember how I came up with the rules I do have.
Seems...

OE is allowed...

Protocol: TCP
Direction: Outgoing
Port type: Any port
Application: Only c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe
Addr type: Any address
Port type: Any port
Rule Valid: Always
Action: Permit

This, however, is UNDER other rules that DO BLOCK...

(A) Other ICMP (both directions, any address, always), which is a real
bunch...

[0] Echo Reply, [3] Destination Unreachable, [4] Source Quench, [5]
Redirect, [6] Alternate Host Address, [9] Router Advertisement, [10]
Router Solicitation, [11] Time Exceeded, [12] Parameter Problem, [13]
Timestamp, [14] Timestamp Reply, [15] Information Request, [16]
Information Reply, [17] Address Mask Request, [18] Address Mask Reply,
[30] Traceroute, [31] Datagram Conversion Error, [32] Mobile Host
Redirect, [33] IPv6 Where-Are-You, [34] IPv6 I-Am-Here, [35] Mobile
Registration Request, [36] Mobile Registration Reply, [37] Domain Name
Request, [38] Domain Name Reply, [39] SKIP, [40] Photuris, [xx] All ICMP
Codes

(B) IGMP
Protocol: Other, 2
Direction: Both directions
Address type: Any address
Rule valid: Always
Action: Deny, Display Alert Box

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:xCuPe.674708$cg1.658000@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| Thank you I will give it a try. Strange that it never came up before.
|
| PCR, I promise that I will not sue but my lawyer might ;-)
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:o sK2zlcqFHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > Well, you have to permit that one, or OE won't synchronize your NGs.
| > Uncheck it in Kerio to see.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
| > news:1gqPe.134546$5N3.13755@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| > |
| > | "dadiOH" <dadiOH@wherever.com> wrote in message
| > | news:%23Su%23vYWqFHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | > Lorraine wrote:
| > | > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show
| > below.
| > | > > Your point about OE running in the background could be correct
as
| > I
| > | > > sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always
close
| > the
| > | > > program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running in
the
| > | > > background it should not just try to dial out unless a program
| > | > > initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye
on it
| > | > > when it happens again and write down exactly who it is sending
| > too.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when
this
| > | > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and
you
| > have
| > | > its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is
exactly
| > what
| > | > it will do.
| > | >
| > | > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that
is
| > | > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE
recently?
| > |
| > | <snip>
| > |
| > | OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at
intervals.
| > I am
| > | running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing
message.
| > I keep IE
| > | updated but I never updated OE specifically as I assumed that was
part
| > of the IE
| > | update? Am I in error here? I realize that attachments are frowned
| > upon here but
| > | I have a 28 KB Word document which I can post showing the error
box if
| > | acceptable?
| > |
| > | Kerio Personal Firewall
| > | Outgoing Connection Alert!
| > | 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
| > localhost
| > | [127.0.0.1], port 1230
| > |
| >
| >
|
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 7:46:19 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Huh? What's a UDP datagram
(http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,289893,sid9_g...)
got to do with synchronizing newsgroups?
--
~PA Bear

PCR wrote:
> Well, you have to permit that one, or OE won't synchronize your NGs.
> Uncheck it in Kerio to see.
>
>
> >
> > "dadiOH" <dadiOH@wherever.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23Su%23vYWqFHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Lorraine wrote:
> > > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show
> > > > below. Your point about OE running in the background could be
> > > > correct as I sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't
> > > > always close the program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE
> > > > is running in the background it should not just try to dial out
> > > > unless a program initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a
> > > > close eye on it when it happens again and write down exactly who it
> > > > is sending too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when this
> > > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and you
> > > have its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is
> > > exactly what it will do.
> > >
> > > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that is
> > > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE recently?
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at intervals.
> > I am running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing
> > message. I keep IE updated but I never updated OE specifically as I
> > assumed that was part of the IE update? Am I in error here? I realize
> > that attachments are frowned upon here but I have a 28 KB Word document
> > which I can post showing the error box if acceptable?
> >
> > Kerio Personal Firewall
> > Outgoing Connection Alert!
> > 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
> > localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 7:48:44 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Lorraine wrote:
> > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show below.
> > > Your point about OE running in the background could be correct as I
> > > sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always close the
> > > program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running in the
> > > background it should not just try to dial out unless a program
> > > initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye on it
> > > when it happens again and write down exactly who it is sending too.
> >
> > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when this
> > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and you have
> > its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is exactly what
> > it will do.
> >
> > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that is
> > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE recently?
>
> <snip>
>
> OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at intervals. I
> am running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing message.
> I keep IE updated but I never updated OE specifically as I assumed that
> was part of the IE update? Am I in error here? I realize that attachments
> are frowned upon here but I have a 28 KB Word document which I can post
> showing the error box if acceptable?
>
> Kerio Personal Firewall
> Outgoing Connection Alert!
> 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
> localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230

1. Make *certain* you're fully up-to-date at Windows Update.

2. Check for Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/tshoot.html
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1
(http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to use.
It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware. **Post
your log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/,
http://castlecops.com/forum67.html or http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
for expert analysis, not here.**
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 9:58:08 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Uhhhh, no, I mean, well, definitely OE needs access to the NET to
Synchronize or to post. Here is the Kerio message, if it is
disallowed...

Details: 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to connect to
207.46.248.16, port 119
Details of App: c:\program files\outlook express\msimn.exe

However, yea, the rule I have about OE mentions no UDP, only TCP. (I do
have a rule named DNS which appears to be very liberal with UDP, though.
It is above the OE rule.)

OK, then. OK, thanks. Yea, better run those virus/spyware apps. I guess
I put my foot in it! Still, by the URL you post, UDP & TCP are much the
same. They differ mainly in that TCP can handle multiple
packets/datagrams at once.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ujNTQbnqFHA.4076@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Huh? What's a UDP datagram
|
(http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,289893,sid9_g...
)
| got to do with synchronizing newsgroups?
| --
| ~PA Bear
|
| PCR wrote:
| > Well, you have to permit that one, or OE won't synchronize your NGs.
| > Uncheck it in Kerio to see.
| >
| >
| > >
| > > "dadiOH" <dadiOH@wherever.com> wrote in message
| > > news:%23Su%23vYWqFHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > > > Lorraine wrote:
| > > > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show
| > > > > below. Your point about OE running in the background could be
| > > > > correct as I sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I
don't
| > > > > always close the program. I'll have to watch that. But even if
OE
| > > > > is running in the background it should not just try to dial
out
| > > > > unless a program initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will
keep a
| > > > > close eye on it when it happens again and write down exactly
who it
| > > > > is sending too.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when
this
| > > > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and
you
| > > > have its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is
| > > > exactly what it will do.
| > > >
| > > > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that
is
| > > > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE
recently?
| > >
| > > <snip>
| > >
| > > OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at
intervals.
| > > I am running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing
| > > message. I keep IE updated but I never updated OE specifically as
I
| > > assumed that was part of the IE update? Am I in error here? I
realize
| > > that attachments are frowned upon here but I have a 28 KB Word
document
| > > which I can post showing the error box if acceptable?
| > >
| > > Kerio Personal Firewall
| > > Outgoing Connection Alert!
| > > 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
| > > localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230
|
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 2:11:44 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Thanks PCR and PA Bear. I really appreciate the information but it is too much
tech.-talk for me, besides I'm too old to absorb all that. My brain's RAM is
functioning but its hard drive is kaput. Very good UDP datagram explanation PA
Bear. I don't know what will happen but I let the last one go through. I don't
believe I have anything of importance on my computer. I never used a credit card
and I store everything personal on CDs. I do use several PC cleaners and they
found lots of stuff. I clean out this computer regularly but I did some heavy
searching and got caught up in what I was doing and accumulated a bunch of
trash. My mistake and that could be the cause. I deleted almost all the programs
that I updated or installed prior to when this situation started but today it
just came back again. This computer is my 3rd one purchased in July 1999. Until
about a week ago I never got this alert. I really am not that computer literate,
self-thought with the help of newsgroups like this one and to me this appears to
be some form of bug. But I'm guessing. There is a site that will analyze your
computer for viruses but I can't remember were I stored it. Either of you know
of one? Again, thank you.


"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o jE0kcnqFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Lorraine wrote:
> > > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show below.
> > > > Your point about OE running in the background could be correct as I
> > > > sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always close the
> > > > program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running in the
> > > > background it should not just try to dial out unless a program
> > > > initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye on it
> > > > when it happens again and write down exactly who it is sending too.
> > >
> > > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when this
> > > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and you have
> > > its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is exactly what
> > > it will do.
> > >
> > > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that is
> > > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE recently?
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at intervals. I
> > am running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing message.
> > I keep IE updated but I never updated OE specifically as I assumed that
> > was part of the IE update? Am I in error here? I realize that attachments
> > are frowned upon here but I have a 28 KB Word document which I can post
> > showing the error box if acceptable?
> >
> > Kerio Personal Firewall
> > Outgoing Connection Alert!
> > 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
> > localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230
>
> 1. Make *certain* you're fully up-to-date at Windows Update.
>
> 2. Check for Hijackware
> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/tshoot.html
> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
>
> When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1
> (http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to use.
> It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware. **Post
> your log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/,
> http://castlecops.com/forum67.html or http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
> for expert analysis, not here.**
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 2:11:45 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

> I don't know what will happen but I let the
> last one go through.

I wouldn't, if I were you, Lorraine.

> ...There is a site that will analyze your computer for viruses but I can't
> remember
> were I stored it.

There are numerous online scans available. See
http://aumha.org/secure.php#freeav (Steer clear of Panda ActiveScan IMO).

Very few hijackers are true viruses or Trojans so getting an All Clear at
any of these sites does *not* mean your machine is hijackware-free or as
secure as possible.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP


Lorraine wrote:
> Thanks PCR and PA Bear. I really appreciate the information but it is too
> much tech.-talk for me, besides I'm too old to absorb all that. My
> brain's RAM is functioning but its hard drive is kaput. Very good UDP
> datagram explanation PA Bear. I don't know what will happen but I let the
> last one go through. I don't believe I have anything of importance on my
> computer. I never used a credit card and I store everything personal on
> CDs. I do use several PC cleaners and they found lots of stuff. I clean
> out this computer regularly but I did some heavy searching and got caught
> up in what I was doing and accumulated a bunch of trash. My mistake and
> that could be the cause. I deleted almost all the programs that I updated
> or installed prior to when this situation started but today it just came
> back again. This computer is my 3rd one purchased in July 1999. Until
> about a week ago I never got this alert. I really am not that computer
> literate, self-thought with the help of newsgroups like this one and to
> me this appears to be some form of bug. But I'm guessing. There is a site
> that will analyze your computer for viruses but I can't remember were I
> stored it. Either of you know of one? Again, thank you.
>
> > Lorraine wrote:
> > > > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show
> > > > > below. Your point about OE running in the background could be
> > > > > correct as I sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't
> > > > > always close the program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE
> > > > > is running in the background it should not just try to dial out
> > > > > unless a program initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep
> > > > > a close eye on it when it happens again and write down exactly
> > > > > who it is sending too.
> > > >
> > > > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when this
> > > > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and you
> > > > have its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is
> > > > exactly what it will do.
> > > >
> > > > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that is
> > > > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE recently?
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at
> > > intervals. I am running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the
> > > outgoing message. I keep IE updated but I never updated OE
> > > specifically as I assumed that was part of the IE update? Am I in
> > > error here? I realize that attachments are frowned upon here but I
> > > have a 28 KB Word document which I can post showing the error box if
> > > acceptable?
> > >
> > > Kerio Personal Firewall
> > > Outgoing Connection Alert!
> > > 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
> > > localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230
> >
> > 1. Make *certain* you're fully up-to-date at Windows Update.
> >
> > 2. Check for Hijackware
> > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
> > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
> > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
> > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
> > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/tshoot.html
> > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
> > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
> >
> > When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1
> > (http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to
> > use. It will help you to both identify and remove any
> > hijackware/spyware. **Post your log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/,
> > http://castlecops.com/forum67.html or
> > http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not here.**
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 2:11:45 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

You are welcome. No, by PA's words, don't allow it. In fact, deny it &
have Kerio create a rule against it. That is easy to figure: it's right
on the alert box. Then, see whether OE still functions for you. You may
even edit the rule to have it inform you when it happens... R-Clk Kerio
in the tray, select "Administration", click the Advanced button, D-Clk
the new OE rule, & put a check in "Display an alert box...".

Hmm-- how many OE rules are showing at that screen before the new one?
Is there one already denying UDP?

Well, try the sites Bear posted. The message you posted was...

(a) "I get an unexpected prompt that OE wants to connect to a URL or
ISP"
Well, that sounds like the one I get that's normal when the rule
for TCP is disallowed...
"'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to connect to
207.46.248.16, port 119"

(b) "'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230"

That one I haven't seen, actually. I do appear to have two rules
involving UDP above the OE rule. They each appear to be very liberal in
allowing it-- any app, any port, whatever. I have unchecked them now to
disallow it, & let us see what happens.

Yikes, almost immediately, NetZero is doing a lot of complaining...
"Someone from 64.136.28.120, port 53 wants to send UDP datagram to port
1122 owned by 'ZCast' on your computer". (I wonder whether that explains
it's stealth updates.)

But OE hasn't yet complained.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:AsMPe.679845$cg1.24737@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| Thanks PCR and PA Bear. I really appreciate the information but it is
too much
| tech.-talk for me, besides I'm too old to absorb all that. My brain's
RAM is
| functioning but its hard drive is kaput. Very good UDP datagram
explanation PA
| Bear. I don't know what will happen but I let the last one go through.
I don't
| believe I have anything of importance on my computer. I never used a
credit card
| and I store everything personal on CDs. I do use several PC cleaners
and they
| found lots of stuff. I clean out this computer regularly but I did
some heavy
| searching and got caught up in what I was doing and accumulated a
bunch of
| trash. My mistake and that could be the cause. I deleted almost all
the programs
| that I updated or installed prior to when this situation started but
today it
| just came back again. This computer is my 3rd one purchased in July
1999. Until
| about a week ago I never got this alert. I really am not that computer
literate,
| self-thought with the help of newsgroups like this one and to me this
appears to
| be some form of bug. But I'm guessing. There is a site that will
analyze your
| computer for viruses but I can't remember were I stored it. Either of
you know
| of one? Again, thank you.
|
|
| "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:o jE0kcnqFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| > Lorraine wrote:
| > > > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you show
below.
| > > > > Your point about OE running in the background could be correct
as I
| > > > > sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always
close the
| > > > > program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running in
the
| > > > > background it should not just try to dial out unless a program
| > > > > initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye
on it
| > > > > when it happens again and write down exactly who it is sending
too.
| > > >
| > > > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when
this
| > > > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open and
you have
| > > > its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is
exactly what
| > > > it will do.
| > > >
| > > > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that
is
| > > > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE
recently?
| > >
| > > <snip>
| > >
| > > OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at
intervals. I
| > > am running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing
message.
| > > I keep IE updated but I never updated OE specifically as I assumed
that
| > > was part of the IE update? Am I in error here? I realize that
attachments
| > > are frowned upon here but I have a 28 KB Word document which I can
post
| > > showing the error box if acceptable?
| > >
| > > Kerio Personal Firewall
| > > Outgoing Connection Alert!
| > > 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
| > > localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230
| >
| > 1. Make *certain* you're fully up-to-date at Windows Update.
| >
| > 2. Check for Hijackware
| > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
| > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
| > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
| > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
| > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
| > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/tshoot.html
| > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
| > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
| >
| > When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1
| > (http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to
use.
| > It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware.
**Post
| > your log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/,
| > http://castlecops.com/forum67.html or
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
| > for expert analysis, not here.**
| > --
| > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
| >
|
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 2:11:46 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
64.136.28.120, port 53

Yea, I got it too, a series of them! I notice it will happen when those
global UDP rules are disallowed & one clicks to open a NG in the left
pane of OE.

IE also will complain when opening the first instance of it by clicking
an URL.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:e0nkjTpqFHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| You are welcome. No, by PA's words, don't allow it. In fact, deny it &
| have Kerio create a rule against it. That is easy to figure: it's
right
| on the alert box. Then, see whether OE still functions for you. You
may
| even edit the rule to have it inform you when it happens... R-Clk
Kerio
| in the tray, select "Administration", click the Advanced button, D-Clk
| the new OE rule, & put a check in "Display an alert box...".
|
| Hmm-- how many OE rules are showing at that screen before the new one?
| Is there one already denying UDP?
|
| Well, try the sites Bear posted. The message you posted was...
|
| (a) "I get an unexpected prompt that OE wants to connect to a URL or
| ISP"
| Well, that sounds like the one I get that's normal when the rule
| for TCP is disallowed...
| "'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to connect to
| 207.46.248.16, port 119"
|
| (b) "'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram
to
| localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230"
|
| That one I haven't seen, actually. I do appear to have two rules
| involving UDP above the OE rule. They each appear to be very liberal
in
| allowing it-- any app, any port, whatever. I have unchecked them now
to
| disallow it, & let us see what happens.
|
| Yikes, almost immediately, NetZero is doing a lot of complaining...
| "Someone from 64.136.28.120, port 53 wants to send UDP datagram to
port
| 1122 owned by 'ZCast' on your computer". (I wonder whether that
explains
| it's stealth updates.)
|
| But OE hasn't yet complained.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
| "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
| news:AsMPe.679845$cg1.24737@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| | Thanks PCR and PA Bear. I really appreciate the information but it
is
| too much
| | tech.-talk for me, besides I'm too old to absorb all that. My
brain's
| RAM is
| | functioning but its hard drive is kaput. Very good UDP datagram
| explanation PA
| | Bear. I don't know what will happen but I let the last one go
through.
| I don't
| | believe I have anything of importance on my computer. I never used a
| credit card
| | and I store everything personal on CDs. I do use several PC cleaners
| and they
| | found lots of stuff. I clean out this computer regularly but I did
| some heavy
| | searching and got caught up in what I was doing and accumulated a
| bunch of
| | trash. My mistake and that could be the cause. I deleted almost all
| the programs
| | that I updated or installed prior to when this situation started but
| today it
| | just came back again. This computer is my 3rd one purchased in July
| 1999. Until
| | about a week ago I never got this alert. I really am not that
computer
| literate,
| | self-thought with the help of newsgroups like this one and to me
this
| appears to
| | be some form of bug. But I'm guessing. There is a site that will
| analyze your
| | computer for viruses but I can't remember were I stored it. Either
of
| you know
| | of one? Again, thank you.
| |
| |
| | "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
| | news:o jE0kcnqFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| | > Lorraine wrote:
| | > > > > Thanks PA Bear I just checked and the settings are as you
show
| below.
| | > > > > Your point about OE running in the background could be
correct
| as I
| | > > > > sometimes check email and/or newsgroups but I don't always
| close the
| | > > > > program. I'll have to watch that. But even if OE is running
in
| the
| | > > > > background it should not just try to dial out unless a
program
| | > > > > initiated it? Could it be OE itself? I will keep a close eye
| on it
| | > > > > when it happens again and write down exactly who it is
sending
| too.
| | > > >
| | > > > Since you said you were already connected to the internet when
| this
| | > > > occurs, there is no need for it to dial out. If OE is open
and
| you have
| | > > > its options set to check for new mail at intervals, that is
| exactly what
| | > > > it will do.
| | > > >
| | > > > Are you running a firewall program and is it that program that
| is
| | > > > telling you that OE wants to connect? Have you updated OE
| recently?
| | > >
| | > > <snip>
| | > >
| | > > OE is open and options are not set to check for new mail at
| intervals. I
| | > > am running Kerio firewall, which is alerting me to the outgoing
| message.
| | > > I keep IE updated but I never updated OE specifically as I
assumed
| that
| | > > was part of the IE update? Am I in error here? I realize that
| attachments
| | > > are frowned upon here but I have a 28 KB Word document which I
can
| post
| | > > showing the error box if acceptable?
| | > >
| | > > Kerio Personal Firewall
| | > > Outgoing Connection Alert!
| | > > 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram
to
| | > > localhost [127.0.0.1], port 1230
| | >
| | > 1. Make *certain* you're fully up-to-date at Windows Update.
| | >
| | > 2. Check for Hijackware
| | > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
| | > http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
| | > http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=5878
| | > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
| | > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/prevention.htm
| | > http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/archive/tshoot.html
| | > http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/Malware_Defence.htm
| | > http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
| | >
| | > When all else fails, HijackThis v1.99.1
| | > (http://aumha.net/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool
to
| use.
| | > It will help you to both identify and remove any
hijackware/spyware.
| **Post
| | > your log to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/,
| | > http://castlecops.com/forum67.html or
| http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
| | > for expert analysis, not here.**
| | > --
| | > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| | > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
| | >
| |
|
|
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 7:03:23 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

I'll try some of the online scans and deny the outgoing alerts and have Kerio
create a rule against it. I will also watch this newsgroup for any updates on
this subject. Thank you both for sharing your knowledge.


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:o gck2upqFHA.3640@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
> 64.136.28.120, port 53
>
> Yea, I got it too, a series of them! I notice it will happen when those
> global UDP rules are disallowed & one clicks to open a NG in the left
> pane of OE.
>
> IE also will complain when opening the first instance of it by clicking
> an URL.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
<snip>
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 7:03:24 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

"Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:%JQPe.138698$5N3.79727@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> I'll try some of the online scans and deny the outgoing alerts and have
Kerio
> create a rule against it. I will also watch this newsgroup for any updates
on
> this subject.

IP Address : [64.136.28.120] lax-dns.lax.untd.com
IP Location: United States [US]

OrgName: Juno Online Services, Inc.
OrgID: JUNO
Address: 21301 Burbank Boulevard
City: Woodland Hills
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 91367
Country: US

NetRange: 64.136.0.0 - 64.136.63.255
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 5:28:51 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

You are welcome. I may soon begin an intensive study of it. At least
that's what I promised 'bout a year ago I guess. OK, then. (Let me go
see what Candlin is trying to say.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:%JQPe.138698$5N3.79727@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| I'll try some of the online scans and deny the outgoing alerts and
have Kerio
| create a rule against it. I will also watch this newsgroup for any
updates on
| this subject. Thank you both for sharing your knowledge.
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:o gck2upqFHA.3640@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > 'Outlook Express' from your computer wants to send UDP datagram to
| > 64.136.28.120, port 53
| >
| > Yea, I got it too, a series of them! I notice it will happen when
those
| > global UDP rules are disallowed & one clicks to open a NG in the
left
| > pane of OE.
| >
| > IE also will complain when opening the first instance of it by
clicking
| > an URL.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| <snip>
|
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 5:38:08 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Well, I had Juno once. I believe it was bought by NetZero, which is what
I have now. I presume everything is on the up & up, & this is just my
ISP involvement to NG access. Everyone's ISP must do it! Right? Don't
try to scare me, Candlin!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Hugh Candlin" <No@MeansNo.Com> wrote in message
news:o xbXV8rqFHA.2212@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
|
| "Lorraine" <notme@nowhere.net> wrote in message
| news:%JQPe.138698$5N3.79727@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| > I'll try some of the online scans and deny the outgoing alerts and
have
| Kerio
| > create a rule against it. I will also watch this newsgroup for any
updates
| on
| > this subject.
|
| IP Address : [64.136.28.120] lax-dns.lax.untd.com
| IP Location: United States [US]
|
| OrgName: Juno Online Services, Inc.
| OrgID: JUNO
| Address: 21301 Burbank Boulevard
| City: Woodland Hills
| StateProv: CA
| PostalCode: 91367
| Country: US
|
| NetRange: 64.136.0.0 - 64.136.63.255
|
|
!