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No you are right, I am not subscribing to ANY newsgroups, do I need to, what
is/are the advantages.
As with the original question, It was more to find out why at the beginning
of this year , as far as I know I could look back for ever and read old
messages that related to my problems and learn from them.
Then after several months I post another message re :- MS Paint which you
guys have know fixed, And as ever I am truly grateful and humbled by your
free help, I is very rare that anybody is willing to help for no return,
thank you.
It was then that I noticed that I could not read the older messages, and
wondered why this was,
After trying to read a few, to be told that they where no longer on the
server, BUT could read ALL of my own messages back as far as Jan this
year,(although my messages are "watched" highlighted in red so maybe that is
the difference) I could not understand why the headings where being shown in
the newsgroup window, Why aren't the headings just deleted from the list
when the messages TIME EXPIRE.
Another thing that puzzled me was why I can't delete the headings like I can
in my e-mail Folders, When I try to Look at the messages I get the "no
longer on the server message" and a line is put though the heading, but it
does not disappear nor can I delete it.
Then next time I open the newsgroup the headings are back again, without the
line though it, but I still cannot read the message ,OF COARSE.
I just wanted to know what was going on that's all.
Why did I want to know, WELL, I think that the more a novice like myself
learns about anything to do with computers the more he will understand about
other things to do with computers.
You guys are so amazing, even if, as you must, you get a little bit
frustrated now and then by folk like me who compared to you know very
little.
Some times you are "talking" to people who do not know what you are on
about, and they not only have to learn how to fix something, but to a large
extent are having to do it blindfolded.
Even though I do not see a real need to change to how you suggest, I am ALW
AYS more than willing to take your advise and have a go.
Hope this clears something's up. And I will probably be back to ask some
more question, if I may
Many Thanks Steve
"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uoCwLo#qFHA.460@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Well, the discussion was originally about how to retrieve your missing
> messages, how to reset the newsgroup, and we've told you how. What I don't
> understand, really, is how you can see the Local Folders and not the
> Newsgroup accounts. Unless... Are you not "Subscribing" to the newsgroups?
> Just signing in via the Ctrl-W dialogue and then letting it disappear? But
> in that case, you're resetting the NG every time you go there. I fell that
> there's some important piece of information about your layout that I'm
> aren't comprehending on this side. Really, it's no big deal to change the
> layout of your OE temporarily in order to do that, and then change it back
> to what you're used to. But hey, it's your system.
>
> I strongly doubt that you will be able to upgrade *that* machine to XP.
What
> are its basic specs (CPU speed, RAM, HDD size)?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "Moonraker" <moonraker@home.com> wrote in message
> news:O9mDPi7qFHA.3736@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Let me explain,
> >
> > Back in 1999 we got this 'puter, it has been ill a couple of times, has
> > crashed two or three times, once due to a virus, have needed to reload
> > windows a couple of times for other reasons. and Beryl and my son (now
12)
> > has loaded allsorts on here.
> >
> > We are still using OE that was loaded on back them, we have had no
reason
> > to
> > change to be honest
> >
> > At the left hand pane there is the five O/E folders, and at the top of
the
> > page I have FILE>EDIT..etc
> >
> > Below that is SEND>CUT>COPY>>>>>>on to >ADDRESSES>FIND>NEWSGROUPS> and
> > HEADERS
> >
> > For newsgroups (this is the only one I use) (and I don't know how I
would
> > manage without you guys) I click on newsgroups at the top of the page,
or
> > CTRL+W, which opens the newsgroups window,>>>I then type in 98gen and as
> > if
> > my magic you are there, as if you have just been waiting for me to have
my
> > next crisis.
> >
> > The reason for wiping my hard drive and upgrading to XP has nothing to
do
> > with OE or newsgroups, , It has been suggested by several people,
> > including
> > my brother in law , whom I call when I cannot fix this 'puter on my own.
> >
> > As I am likely to upgrade to OE 6 when I upgrade to XP There is no real
> > need
> > to worry about changing anything now .
> >
> > Many thanks Steve
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:usiRNw2qFHA.3600@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> Well, that sounds a little labor intensive. Even if it's only for this
> >> purpose of resetting the NG(s), enable the Folders pane. I'm not still
> > clear
> >> how you navigate between folders without the Folders pane visible, but
I
> >> can't find a decent way to reset NGs without it.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >>
> >> "Moonraker" <moonraker@home.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23qnpyD1qFHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > Sorry, "inbox >> drafts" meant inbox through to drafts including
> > outbox,
> >> > sent items and deleted items.
> >> >
> >> > I access the newsgroup via the toolbar at the top of the page (in
> > between
> >> > find and headers) or by "ctrl W"
> >> >
> >> > I'm quite happy with not having an icon for newsgroups on the left
hand
> >> > pane.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> > news:OPas3e0qFHA.1572@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Then how do you get to the newsgroup? What do you click on? Where
are
> >> >> your
> >> >> Deleted, Outbox and Sent folders?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >>
> >> >> "Moonraker" <moonraker@home.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:edRxJM0qFHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Thanks for your help
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Re:- (4) R-Clk the NG in the left pane of OE, Properties, Local
File
> >> > tab,
> >> >> > &
> >> >> > click the RESET button.
> >> >> > (5) R-Clk the NG in the left pane, Synchronize Settings, set to
All
> >> >> > Messages.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I do not have "the newsgroup in the left pane of OE"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I only have inbox >> drafts
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:eeQcFfzqFHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> I'm no gossip, &, anyhow, I doubt PA Bear hiccoughed your
messages
> >> >> >> away-- not that many! I guess some strange corruption occurred.
> >> >> >> Therefore...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (1) "OE, File menu, Folder, Compact All Folders"
> >> >> >> (2) At "OE, Tools menu, Message Rules, News", create a Message
Rule
> > to
> >> >> >> delete posts older than, say, 90 days. Also check "stop
processing
> >> >> >> more
> >> >> >> rules".
> >> >> >> (3) At "Tools, Options, Read tab", uncheck "Get xxx headers at a
> >> >> >> time".
> >> >> >> (4) R-Clk the NG in the left pane of OE, Properties, Local File
> >> >> >> tab,
> > &
> >> >> >> click the RESET button.
> >> >> >> (5) R-Clk the NG in the left pane, Synchronize Settings, set to
All
> >> >> >> Messages.
> >> >> >> (6) Click "Tools, Synchronize Newsgroup"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Posts older than 90 days will not download. Posts that age on
your
> >> >> >> machine after the download are your responsibility to delete, by
> >> >> >> occasionally going to that rule & clicking "Apply Now". After
that,
> >> >> >> compact: "OE, File menu, Folder, Compact all folders".
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Colorado disagrees, but there is a cave-dwelling MVP around, who
> >> > says...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> (1) "OE, Tools, Options, Maintenance tab".
> >> >> >> (2) Uncheck "Delete news messages x days after being downloaded".
> >> >> >> (3) Uncheck "Compact messages in the background".
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Thanks or Good Luck,
> >> >> >> There may be humor in this post, and,
> >> >> >> Naturally, you will not sue,
> >> >> >> should things get worse after this,
> >> >> >> PCR
> >> >> >> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> >> >> >> "Moonraker" <moonraker@home.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:OE3h4UyqFHA.3160@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> | in maintenance, there are three check boxes at the top, only
the
> > top
> >> >> >> one,
> >> >> >> | empty messages etc, is checked >> all the others on the box are
> >> > greyed
> >> >> >> out
> >> >> >> |
> >> >> >> | when I am looking at the messages on this newsgroup it says
they
> > are
> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> | longer on server and puts a line through the heading
> >> >> >> |
> >> >> >> | many thanks Steve
> >> >> >> |
> >> >> >> | "jkb" <nospam> wrote in message
> >> >> >> | news:ugzcaKyqFHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> | > > Why are nearly all of the messages on this site not
> >> >> >> available,
> > I
> >> >> >> used to
> >> >> >> | > > browse through old messages and could access all of them.
> >> >> >> | >
> >> >> >> | > Check OE settings: Tools -> Options -> Maintenance. It might
> > have
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> | > deletion options checked. OE by defualt does.
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