USB2 drivers for 98SE

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The manual for your specific hardware that I see at the Belkin website does
NOT indicate installing the drivers BEFORE installing the USB 2.0 adapter
card. See steps 1, 2, and 3. And, I wish all software driver installations
were this explicit for installing hardware as this manual. The install
procedure in the manual at their website seems adequate, appropriate, and
well detailed. Care to try again?

For those seeking the website, the web address is intuitive. I.E. "belkin".
Their is no manual for the low-profile cards F5U219-LP, just the regular two
listed, F5U219. And, those two are identical. The manual is in PDF format
requiring Adobe (not free) or Adobe Acrobat Reader (free) installation
before attempting to open the file..
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

"Michael J Davis" <miked@trustsof.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I have purchased a Belkin USB2 card (F5U219) with 3 USB2 ports.
>
> The instructions say install driver (before installing card) from the
> supplied disk. It seems to install a NEC USB2 driver, but then asks me
> to install the Win98SE disk to find the USB2 drivers. Then it cannot
> find them.
>
> I have since tried installing the card first but it makes no difference.
>
> I have searched the Belkin site and Googled, but not found an answer.
>
> Can anyone help me to find the 'missing' 98SE USB2 drivers? Or give me
> an alternative install procedure?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> [System is 98SE, SA6 motherboard; two hard disks, CD-RW drive, Seagate
> tape drive, 512Mb memory.]
>
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"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
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> The manual for your specific hardware that I see at the Belkin website
does
> NOT indicate installing the drivers BEFORE installing the USB 2.0 adapter
> card. See steps 1, 2, and 3. And, I wish all software driver
installations
> were this explicit for installing hardware as this manual. The install
> procedure in the manual at their website seems adequate, appropriate, and
> well detailed. Care to try again?
>
> For those seeking the website, the web address is intuitive. I.E.
"belkin".
> Their is no manual for the low-profile cards F5U219-LP, just the regular
two
> listed, F5U219. And, those two are identical. <snip>

The URL for drivers and manual is

http://www.belkin.com/support/download.asp?download=F5U...

The two F5U219 cards are not identical. The old one has two ports and the
newer one has three. Note that the manual is from 2002 and really was
written for the old version.

I just bought and installed a F5U219 and a F5U222. Both were used and the
original owner wrote in the F5U219 manual to install software first. The
F5U222 manual states to install software first. The same driver, revised as
of two days ago, is used for both cards. I installed the driver first for
both cards and all went well. My conclusion is that the old F5U219 manual
from 2002 was never updated when drivers and installation procedures
changed, not to mention that the card itself changed.

Download the latest driver, install it, and then install the card.

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"Frank346" <frank346@groznyk.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
> news:esRDJk8qFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > The manual for your specific hardware that I see at the Belkin website
> does
> > NOT indicate installing the drivers BEFORE installing the USB 2.0
adapter
> > card. See steps 1, 2, and 3. And, I wish all software driver
> installations
> > were this explicit for installing hardware as this manual. The install
> > procedure in the manual at their website seems adequate, appropriate,
and
> > well detailed. Care to try again?
> >
> > For those seeking the website, the web address is intuitive. I.E.
> "belkin".
> > Their is no manual for the low-profile cards F5U219-LP, just the regular
> two
> > listed, F5U219. And, those two are identical. <snip>
>
> The URL for drivers and manual is
>
> http://www.belkin.com/support/download.asp?download=F5U...
>
> The two F5U219 cards are not identical. The old one has two ports and the
> newer one has three. Note that the manual is from 2002 and really was
> written for the old version.
>
> I just bought and installed a F5U219 and a F5U222. Both were used and the
> original owner wrote in the F5U219 manual to install software first. The
> F5U222 manual states to install software first. The same driver, revised
as
> of two days ago, is used for both cards. I installed the driver first for
> both cards and all went well. My conclusion is that the old F5U219 manual
> from 2002 was never updated when drivers and installation procedures
> changed, not to mention that the card itself changed.
>
> Download the latest driver, install it, and then install the card.
>
>

Dear Mr/Ms snipper,

I ***NEVER*** said the two F5U219 cards were identical.
The 2 manuals that I mentioned are identical in reference to installing the
card and software drivers. I compared for assurance before posting. Then,
I found out something else. The links are identical to the same manual.for
both F5U219 cards....
http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73941-F5U...

http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73941-F5U...

Which means they're the same manual.

The release notes dated Jan 2004 for the F5U219, shows no indication of
loading the drivers first. There is no later dated release note. These
show fixes as the drivers were updated over time.
http://web.belkin.com/support/download/files/USB%202.0%...

As far as I can tell, the 3 port version was made in 2003.
http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/bulletins/uploads/PB_F5...

The F5U222 is a cardbus version for laptops with cardbus connector. The
card is connected ***BEFORE*** the drivers are installed per its manaul.
http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73890-F5U...
http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73890-F5U...
Identical manuals listed for both F5U222s.
No other manual listed for this model.

Your information regarding loading the drivers first may be accurate. BUT,
I doubt it. Typically, USB 1.1 drivers are not force loaded. Rather, the
hardware is already visible to the OS. Then, the USB 2.0 driver is
installed.
PC motherboards typically load USB 2.0 driver the same way in Windows 98SE.
First windows loads its drivers first for USB 1.1, then the user loads the
USB 2.0 drivers from the mobo CD. All the time, during this procedure, the
USB controllers and ports are enabled in the bios. Thus "visible" to the PC
and the OS. Just like having a USB PCI adapter plugged in prior to
installing the drivers.....

Typically, windows 98SE loads the controller driver for all the controllers
it finds, then sets up the ports. Then, the USB 2.0 driver will enable USB
2.0 controllers for all those with that capability. Whether a controller is
added, or port is added internally or externally has NO bearing.

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"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
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> Dear Mr/Ms snipper,
>
> I ***NEVER*** said the two F5U219 cards were identical.
> The 2 manuals that I mentioned are identical in reference to installing
the
> card and software drivers. I compared for assurance before posting.
Then,
> I found out something else. The links are identical to the same
manual.for
> both F5U219 cards....
> http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73941-F5U...
>
> http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73941-F5U...
>
> Which means they're the same manual.

Yep, the same old manual that wasn't updated when the card was.

> The release notes dated Jan 2004 for the F5U219, shows no indication of
> loading the drivers first. There is no later dated release note. These
> show fixes as the drivers were updated over time.
>
http://web.belkin.com/support/download/files/USB%202.0%...

I don't see any discussion of installation at all in these notes.

> As far as I can tell, the 3 port version was made in 2003.
> http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/bulletins/uploads/PB_F5...
>
> The F5U222 is a cardbus version for laptops with cardbus connector. The
> card is connected ***BEFORE*** the drivers are installed per its manaul.
> http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73890-F5U...
> http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73890-F5U...
> Identical manuals listed for both F5U222s.
> No other manual listed for this model.

The manual you referenced is old, from 2001. The newer multilanguage manual
(9/30/2002) says to load the driver first (see page 5).
http://www.belkin.com/support/download.asp?download=F5U...

> Your information regarding loading the drivers first may be accurate.
BUT,
> I doubt it. <snippety-snip>

Doesn't matter if you doubt it, loading the driver first is the updated
procedure. That's the way I did it and the installation went smoothy-smooth
for both the F5U219 and F5U222. Didn't try it the old way and don't know
what entanglements would result. If using the latest driver from 8/26/2005,
load the driver first, reboot, and then install the card for a trouble-free
installation.

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Lil' Dave <spamyourself@virus.net> opined
>"Frank346" <frank346@groznyk.com> wrote in message
>news:ecU21w8qFHA.3080@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>
>> The URL for drivers and manual is
>>
>> http://www.belkin.com/support/download.asp?download=F5U...
>>
>> The two F5U219 cards are not identical. The old one has two ports and the
>> newer one has three. Note that the manual is from 2002 and really was
>> written for the old version.
>>
>
>Dear Mr/Ms snipper,
>
>I ***NEVER*** said the two F5U219 cards were identical.
>The 2 manuals that I mentioned are identical in reference to installing the
>card and software drivers. I compared for assurance before posting. Then,
>I found out something else. The links are identical to the same manual.for
>both F5U219 cards....
>http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73941-F5U...
>
>http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73941-F5U...
>
>Which means they're the same manual.
>
>The release notes dated Jan 2004 for the F5U219, shows no indication of
>loading the drivers first. There is no later dated release note. These
>show fixes as the drivers were updated over time.
>http://web.belkin.com/support/download/files/USB%202.0%...
>
>As far as I can tell, the 3 port version was made in 2003.
>http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/bulletins/uploads/PB_F5...
>
>The F5U222 is a cardbus version for laptops with cardbus connector. The
>card is connected ***BEFORE*** the drivers are installed per its manaul.
>http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73890-F5U...
>http://www.belkin.com/support/download/files/P73890-F5U...
>Identical manuals listed for both F5U222s.
>No other manual listed for this model.
>
>Your information regarding loading the drivers first may be accurate. BUT,
>I doubt it. Typically, USB 1.1 drivers are not force loaded. Rather, the
>hardware is already visible to the OS. Then, the USB 2.0 driver is
>installed.
>PC motherboards typically load USB 2.0 driver the same way in Windows 98SE.
>First windows loads its drivers first for USB 1.1, then the user loads the
>USB 2.0 drivers from the mobo CD. All the time, during this procedure, the
>USB controllers and ports are enabled in the bios. Thus "visible" to the PC
>and the OS. Just like having a USB PCI adapter plugged in prior to
>installing the drivers.....
>
>Typically, windows 98SE loads the controller driver for all the controllers
>it finds, then sets up the ports. Then, the USB 2.0 driver will enable USB
>2.0 controllers for all those with that capability. Whether a controller is
>added, or port is added internally or externally has NO bearing.

OK, it's time to break in and thank you *both*. I haven't had time
during the week to do this, but I just done it and it worked.

You have solved the problem. Maybe that its that Belkin didn't point me
in the right direction, because when I (originally) went to their site
and entered the model number - it said "there are no downloads for this
model".

Yes, I have the 'newer three port' card, and the printed instructions
for win98SE do say install software *first* (I did spell that out).

However, thanks to you I downloaded file U2v241.exe. ran it, then
installed the card, and after a reboot (first boot said installing
drivers and hung!) it recognised the card immediately.

So thanks! I'm not sure which one of you ends up right - you lost me
anyway! But thanks to you both for caring - that's what really matters!

Mike
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For this is what the Lord has said to me,
"Go and post a Watchman and let
him report what he sees." Isa 21:6
<><