Boot Problem

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Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said he was
messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember what. I
tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
Foxhole

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Ben
Thanks for the info. I will try your suggestion as soon as I can get access
to a floppy as my new computer does not have a floppy drive and I gave away
my old computer about a month ago. I will take it into work Monday, using
computer with 2000 pro about 3 years old and it has a floppy.
Again Thanks.
Foxhole

"Ben Myers" wrote:

> Copy and paste the following text to Notepad and save it to a floppy as
> "a:\repair.reg". Start the Thinkpad in "Command Prompt", insert the
> floppy, type "regedit a:\repair.reg" and press "Enter". Then type
> "win" to start Windows. If you get the option to repair Internet
> Explorer, select it. If you are prompted to restart, please remove
> the floppy before doing so.
>
> REGEDIT4
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\1]
> "ie6"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE6Maintenance"
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\2]
> "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
> [End]
>
> Ben
>
> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
> > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
> > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said he was
> > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember what. I
> > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
> > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
> > Foxhole
>

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PCR
Anything is worth a try, but I don"t know if either will be there because
the person who gave it to me said it had never been updated or on the
internet. He just said it was an old computer he had and was "messing around
in msconfig" and the next time he turned it on it would not boot all the way.
So I don"t know, I wish I had kept my old computer with Win 98SE on it.
Thanks again for your response.
Foxhole

"PCR" wrote:

> Interesting idea, but should both IE6 & IE5 be in there? I have a folder
> full of IE6 & another full of IE5, if your thinking only one would be
> present.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
> news:eMZYDVjtFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Copy and paste the following text to Notepad and save it to a floppy as
> "a:\repair.reg". Start the Thinkpad in "Command Prompt", insert the
> floppy, type "regedit a:\repair.reg" and press "Enter". Then type
> "win" to start Windows. If you get the option to repair Internet
> Explorer, select it. If you are prompted to restart, please remove
> the floppy before doing so.
>
> REGEDIT4
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\
> 1]
> "ie6"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE6Maintenance"
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\
> 2]
> "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
> [End]
>
> Ben
>
> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
> > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
> > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said
> he was
> > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember
> what. I
> > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
> > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
> > Foxhole
>
>
>

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Just stating the obvious, Foxfire, but have you tried going in
MSCONFIG and inserting a checkmark in anything that is unchecked ?
Dan

"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F23FD9D0-C5DF-43CA-90A1-912D588DC0A5@microsoft.com...
> PCR
> Anything is worth a try, but I don"t know if either will be there
because
> the person who gave it to me said it had never been updated or on
the
> internet. He just said it was an old computer he had and was
"messing around
> in msconfig" and the next time he turned it on it would not boot all
the way.
> So I don"t know, I wish I had kept my old computer with Win 98SE on
it.
> Thanks again for your response.
> Foxhole
>
> "PCR" wrote:
>
> > Interesting idea, but should both IE6 & IE5 be in there? I have a
folder
> > full of IE6 & another full of IE5, if your thinking only one would
be
> > present.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > should things get worse after this,
> > PCR
> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> > "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
> > news:eMZYDVjtFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Copy and paste the following text to Notepad and save it to a
floppy as
> > "a:\repair.reg". Start the Thinkpad in "Command Prompt", insert
the
> > floppy, type "regedit a:\repair.reg" and press "Enter". Then
type
> > "win" to start Windows. If you get the option to repair Internet
> > Explorer, select it. If you are prompted to restart, please
remove
> > the floppy before doing so.
> >
> > REGEDIT4
> >
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceE
x\
> > 1]
> > "ie6"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE6Maintenance"
> >
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceE
x\
> > 2]
> > "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
> > [End]
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
> > > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
> > > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He
said
> > he was
> > > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't
remember
> > what. I
> > > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
> > > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your
attention.
> > > Foxhole
> >
> >
> >

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Dan
Thanks for the suggestion but I can not even get it to boot past the Win 98
screen and then it just stops
I have tried safe mode and it won't boot to that either. Basically it just
starts to boot and then quits and Win 98 screen freezes and won't do anything
else. Tried scanreg/restore to last good boot and samething.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Foxhole

"Dapper Dan" wrote:

> Just stating the obvious, Foxfire, but have you tried going in
> MSCONFIG and inserting a checkmark in anything that is unchecked ?
> Dan
>
> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F23FD9D0-C5DF-43CA-90A1-912D588DC0A5@microsoft.com...
> > PCR
> > Anything is worth a try, but I don"t know if either will be there
> because
> > the person who gave it to me said it had never been updated or on
> the
> > internet. He just said it was an old computer he had and was
> "messing around
> > in msconfig" and the next time he turned it on it would not boot all
> the way.
> > So I don"t know, I wish I had kept my old computer with Win 98SE on
> it.
> > Thanks again for your response.
> > Foxhole
> >
> > "PCR" wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting idea, but should both IE6 & IE5 be in there? I have a
> folder
> > > full of IE6 & another full of IE5, if your thinking only one would
> be
> > > present.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > > should things get worse after this,
> > > PCR
> > > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> > > "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eMZYDVjtFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > Copy and paste the following text to Notepad and save it to a
> floppy as
> > > "a:\repair.reg". Start the Thinkpad in "Command Prompt", insert
> the
> > > floppy, type "regedit a:\repair.reg" and press "Enter". Then
> type
> > > "win" to start Windows. If you get the option to repair Internet
> > > Explorer, select it. If you are prompted to restart, please
> remove
> > > the floppy before doing so.
> > >
> > > REGEDIT4
> > >
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceE
> x\
> > > 1]
> > > "ie6"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE6Maintenance"
> > >
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceE
> x\
> > > 2]
> > > "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
> > > [End]
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
> > > > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
> > > > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He
> said
> > > he was
> > > > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't
> remember
> > > what. I
> > > > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
> > > > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your
> attention.
> > > > Foxhole
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

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You are welcome. May as well look for the following files, as well, as they may prove useful later...

DIR "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Setup\Setup.exe"
DIR "C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files\ie6setup.exe"
DIR "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\ie6Setup.exe"
DIR "C:\Windows Update Setup Files\ie5setup.exe"
DIR "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\ie5setup.exe"

You need the quotes. Here is what thry may look like...

C:\>dir "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Setup\Setup.exe"
Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Setup
SETUP EXE 353,280 10-20-00 12:00a SETUP.EXE
1 file(s) 353,280 bytes

C:\>dir "C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files\ie6setup.exe"
Directory of C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files
IE6SETUP EXE 490,608 09-26-02 10:53p ie6setup.exe
1 file(s) 490,608 bytes

C:\>dir "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IE6Setup.exe"
Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
IE6SETUP EXE 490,608 09-26-02 10:53p ie6setup.exe
1 file(s) 490,608 bytes

C:\>DIR "C:\Windows Update Setup Files\ie5setup.exe"
Directory of C:\Windows Update Setup Files
IE5SETUP EXE 511,616 08-10-01 10:34p ie5setup.exe
1 file(s) 511,616 bytes

C:\>DIR "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\ie5setup.exe"
Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
IE5SETUP EXE 511,616 08-10-01 10:34p ie5setup.exe
1 file(s) 511,616 bytes


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C1D09390-E39E-47BA-9683-C2994C106765@microsoft.com...
| PCR
| I'll give that a try.
| Thanks for the help.
| Foxhole
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| > I guess, first, at a DOS Prompt...
| >
| > C:\>DIR C:setupwbv /a /s
| > Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
| > SETUPWBV DLL 50,688 08-29-02 12:00a SETUPWBV.DLL
| > 1 file(s) 50,688 bytes
| >
| > If it doesn't show up for you, you can't do it, anyway. Otherwise... maybe try the IE5 lines he posted...
| >
| > REGEDIT4
| > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\1]
| > "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
| > [End]
| >
| > BUT, damn, it doesn't look quite right to me. I just don't know what that "||" is in front of the "rundll32"..!..
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F23FD9D0-C5DF-43CA-90A1-912D588DC0A5@microsoft.com...
| > | PCR
| > | Anything is worth a try, but I don"t know if either will be there because
| > | the person who gave it to me said it had never been updated or on the
| > | internet. He just said it was an old computer he had and was "messing around
| > | in msconfig" and the next time he turned it on it would not boot all the way.
| > | So I don"t know, I wish I had kept my old computer with Win 98SE on it.
| > | Thanks again for your response.
| > | Foxhole
| > |
| > | "PCR" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Interesting idea, but should both IE6 & IE5 be in there? I have a folder
| > | > full of IE6 & another full of IE5, if your thinking only one would be
| > | > present.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | > "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:eMZYDVjtFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > | > Copy and paste the following text to Notepad and save it to a floppy as
| > | > "a:\repair.reg". Start the Thinkpad in "Command Prompt", insert the
| > | > floppy, type "regedit a:\repair.reg" and press "Enter". Then type
| > | > "win" to start Windows. If you get the option to repair Internet
| > | > Explorer, select it. If you are prompted to restart, please remove
| > | > the floppy before doing so.
| > | >
| > | > REGEDIT4
| > | > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\
| > | > 1]
| > | > "ie6"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE6Maintenance"
| > | > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\
| > | > 2]
| > | > "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
| > | > [End]
| > | >
| > | > Ben
| > | >
| > | > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
| > | > > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
| > | > > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said
| > | > he was
| > | > > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember
| > | > what. I
| > | > > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
| > | > > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
| > | > > Foxhole
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >

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"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
> Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
> It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said he was
> messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember what. I
> tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
> Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
> Foxhole


At the C:\ prompt, type scanreg /opt /fix and let it run. (scanreg space /opt
space /fix)
Repeat it two more times.
May not help, but ???

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Well, OK, do those DIR, & report back what you find. There may be a way to boot to a Windows DOS box & run one of those.

I wish Myers would show back up & explain why his...

"ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"

....looks funny! When I export a similar Registry key in this machine, I don't get that...!...

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\IE40]
@=""
"DisplayName"="Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 SP1 and Internet Tools"
"UninstallString"="rundll32 setupwbv.dll,IE6Maintenance \"C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer\\Setup\\SETUP.EXE\" /g \"C:\\WINDOWS\\IE Uninstall Log.Txt\""


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B89864DB-F5F9-481A-9DF9-1EBE9CAB9D7D@microsoft.com...
| PCR
| Thanks again for all the info. I am going to try it this afternoon.
| I questioned the person who gave me the laptop to try to find out anymore
| about what he did and he replied he did not remember for sure but he thinks
| he unchecked something with mci beside it thinking it had something to do
| with MCI Worldcom where the computer was purchased as surplus when they
| closed there offices here. I don't know what that had to do with anything, he
| is not to computer savvy I guess. But I am not either.
| Thanks again for your time and information.
| Foxhole
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| > Oh, no! You can't use LFNs (Long File Names) in True DOS. Make that...
| >
| > DIR C:\Progra~1\Intern~1\Setup\Setup.exe
| > DIR C:\WINDOWS\Window~1\ie6setup.exe
| > DIR C:\Progra~1\Intern~1\ie6Setup.exe
| > DIR C:\Window~1\ie5setup.exe
| > DIR C:\Progra~1\Intern~1\ie5setup.exe
| >
| > Also...
| >
| > DIR /a /s C:ie6setup.exe
| > DIR /a /s C:ie5setup.exe
| >
| > Thus...
| >
| > C:\>DIR /a /s C:ie6setup.exe
| > Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
| > IE6SETUP EXE 490,608 09-26-02 10:53p ie6setup.exe
| > 1 file(s) 490,608 bytes
| >
| > Directory of C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files
| > IE6SETUP EXE 490,608 09-26-02 10:53p ie6setup.exe
| > 1 file(s) 490,608 bytes
| >
| > Total files listed:
| > 2 file(s) 981,216 bytes
| >
| > C:\>DIR /a /s C:ie5setup.exe
| > Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
| > IE5SETUP EXE 511,616 08-10-01 10:34p ie5setup.exe
| > 1 file(s) 511,616 bytes
| >
| > Directory of C:\Windows Update Setup Files
| > IE5SETUP EXE 511,616 08-10-01 10:34p ie5setup.exe
| > 1 file(s) 511,616 bytes
| >
| > Total files listed:
| > 2 file(s) 1,023,232 bytes
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message news:ebBstZutFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > You are welcome. May as well look for the following files, as well, as they may prove useful later...
| >
| > DIR "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Setup\Setup.exe"
| > DIR "C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files\ie6setup.exe"
| > DIR "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\ie6Setup.exe"
| > DIR "C:\Windows Update Setup Files\ie5setup.exe"
| > DIR "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\ie5setup.exe"
| >
| > You need the quotes. Here is what thry may look like...
| >
| > C:\>dir "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Setup\Setup.exe"
| > Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Setup
| > SETUP EXE 353,280 10-20-00 12:00a SETUP.EXE
| > 1 file(s) 353,280 bytes
| >
| > C:\>dir "C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files\ie6setup.exe"
| > Directory of C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update Setup Files
| > IE6SETUP EXE 490,608 09-26-02 10:53p ie6setup.exe
| > 1 file(s) 490,608 bytes
| >
| > C:\>dir "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IE6Setup.exe"
| > Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
| > IE6SETUP EXE 490,608 09-26-02 10:53p ie6setup.exe
| > 1 file(s) 490,608 bytes
| >
| > C:\>DIR "C:\Windows Update Setup Files\ie5setup.exe"
| > Directory of C:\Windows Update Setup Files
| > IE5SETUP EXE 511,616 08-10-01 10:34p ie5setup.exe
| > 1 file(s) 511,616 bytes
| >
| > C:\>DIR "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\ie5setup.exe"
| > Directory of C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
| > IE5SETUP EXE 511,616 08-10-01 10:34p ie5setup.exe
| > 1 file(s) 511,616 bytes
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C1D09390-E39E-47BA-9683-C2994C106765@microsoft.com...
| > | PCR
| > | I'll give that a try.
| > | Thanks for the help.
| > | Foxhole
| > |
| > | "PCR" wrote:
| > |
| > | > I guess, first, at a DOS Prompt...
| > | >
| > | > C:\>DIR C:setupwbv /a /s
| > | > Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM
| > | > SETUPWBV DLL 50,688 08-29-02 12:00a SETUPWBV.DLL
| > | > 1 file(s) 50,688 bytes
| > | >
| > | > If it doesn't show up for you, you can't do it, anyway. Otherwise... maybe try the IE5 lines he posted...
| > | >
| > | > REGEDIT4
| > | > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\1]
| > | > "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
| > | > [End]
| > | >
| > | > BUT, damn, it doesn't look quite right to me. I just don't know what that "||" is in front of the "rundll32"..!..
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > PCR
| > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F23FD9D0-C5DF-43CA-90A1-912D588DC0A5@microsoft.com...
| > | > | PCR
| > | > | Anything is worth a try, but I don"t know if either will be there because
| > | > | the person who gave it to me said it had never been updated or on the
| > | > | internet. He just said it was an old computer he had and was "messing around
| > | > | in msconfig" and the next time he turned it on it would not boot all the way.
| > | > | So I don"t know, I wish I had kept my old computer with Win 98SE on it.
| > | > | Thanks again for your response.
| > | > | Foxhole
| > | > |
| > | > | "PCR" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Interesting idea, but should both IE6 & IE5 be in there? I have a folder
| > | > | > full of IE6 & another full of IE5, if your thinking only one would be
| > | > | > present.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | > | > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | > | > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | > | > should things get worse after this,
| > | > | > PCR
| > | > | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | > | > "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-E-M-O-V-Espring.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:eMZYDVjtFHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > Copy and paste the following text to Notepad and save it to a floppy as
| > | > | > "a:\repair.reg". Start the Thinkpad in "Command Prompt", insert the
| > | > | > floppy, type "regedit a:\repair.reg" and press "Enter". Then type
| > | > | > "win" to start Windows. If you get the option to repair Internet
| > | > | > Explorer, select it. If you are prompted to restart, please remove
| > | > | > the floppy before doing so.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > REGEDIT4
| > | > | > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\
| > | > | > 1]
| > | > | > "ie6"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE6Maintenance"
| > | > | > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\
| > | > | > 2]
| > | > | > "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
| > | > | > [End]
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Ben
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
| > | > | > > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said
| > | > | > he was
| > | > | > > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember
| > | > | > what. I
| > | > | > > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
| > | > | > > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
| > | > | > > Foxhole
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

You haven't tried everything yet.

Start the machine and immediately press/hold down the ctrl key or continually
tap F8 until the startup menu appears.
Select DOS command prompt and press Enter.
At the prompt, if it is anything other than c:\windows, type each command below
and press Enter:
cd c:\windows
edit win.ini

Use your keyboard up/down arrow keys.
Look for any lines containing MCI. If they have a REM or ; in front of the
line, remove the REM or ;.
If you did any editing, save before exiting.
Press ALT+F, select Exit and press Enter.

At the prompt, type and press Enter:
edit sysedit.ini
Use your keyboard up/down arrow keys.
Look for any lines containing MCI. If they have a REM or ; in front of the
line, remove the REM or ;.
If you did any editing, save before exiting and rebooting.

If nothing appeared out of order, up/down key to the line: Shell=Explorer.exe
Change it to: Shell=msconfig.exe
Press ALT+F, select save and then exit.
Reboot

With any luck it will boot to the desktop with only the msconfig window on the
wallpaper. If it gets to this point, look under the System.ini and Win.ini tabs
for entries containing MCI.
If they are unchecked, recheck them.

May as well look under all tabs for anything unchecked.
Once done click Apply > Ok and reboot back to DOS.
Edit Shell= back to explorer in system.ini, save and reboot.

If still no joy, there may be something between the autoexec.bat and/or
config.sys that is used for Windows that is missing, corrupt or rem'd out.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AD437A35-DDBE-4B90-A1FE-A040A424D6EA@microsoft.com...
>I want to thank everyone for all the time and suggestions. I have tried
> everything even went to a friends house and made the floppys. I have worked
> all afternoon and still no joy. I guess this thing will need to be formatted
> and reinstall 98SE. I have the installation CD, but the laptop only has
> floppy. I'll figure out something because it is a pretty nice little computer
> even if it is about 6 or 7 years old.
> Again thanks for all suggestions.
> Foxhole
>
> "Buffalo" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
>> > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
>> > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said he was
>> > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember what.
>> > I
>> > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
>> > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
>> > Foxhole
>>
>>
>> At the C:\ prompt, type scanreg /opt /fix and let it run. (scanreg space
>> /opt
>> space /fix)
>> Repeat it two more times.
>> May not help, but ???
>>
>>
>>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

If the changes were made to the system.ini of win.ini, using msconfig, the original
files are in the Windows folder with a .tsh extension.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:uql5$vztFHA.256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You haven't tried everything yet.
>
> Start the machine and immediately press/hold down the ctrl key or continually
> tap F8 until the startup menu appears.
> Select DOS command prompt and press Enter.
> At the prompt, if it is anything other than c:\windows, type each command below
> and press Enter:
> cd c:\windows
> edit win.ini
>
> Use your keyboard up/down arrow keys.
> Look for any lines containing MCI. If they have a REM or ; in front of the
> line, remove the REM or ;.
> If you did any editing, save before exiting.
> Press ALT+F, select Exit and press Enter.
>
> At the prompt, type and press Enter:
> edit sysedit.ini
> Use your keyboard up/down arrow keys.
> Look for any lines containing MCI. If they have a REM or ; in front of the
> line, remove the REM or ;.
> If you did any editing, save before exiting and rebooting.
>
> If nothing appeared out of order, up/down key to the line: Shell=Explorer.exe
> Change it to: Shell=msconfig.exe
> Press ALT+F, select save and then exit.
> Reboot
>
> With any luck it will boot to the desktop with only the msconfig window on the
> wallpaper. If it gets to this point, look under the System.ini and Win.ini tabs
> for entries containing MCI.
> If they are unchecked, recheck them.
>
> May as well look under all tabs for anything unchecked.
> Once done click Apply > Ok and reboot back to DOS.
> Edit Shell= back to explorer in system.ini, save and reboot.
>
> If still no joy, there may be something between the autoexec.bat and/or
> config.sys that is used for Windows that is missing, corrupt or rem'd out.
>
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
>
>
> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AD437A35-DDBE-4B90-A1FE-A040A424D6EA@microsoft.com...
> >I want to thank everyone for all the time and suggestions. I have tried
> > everything even went to a friends house and made the floppys. I have worked
> > all afternoon and still no joy. I guess this thing will need to be formatted
> > and reinstall 98SE. I have the installation CD, but the laptop only has
> > floppy. I'll figure out something because it is a pretty nice little computer
> > even if it is about 6 or 7 years old.
> > Again thanks for all suggestions.
> > Foxhole
> >
> > "Buffalo" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
> >> > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
> >> > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said he was
> >> > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember what.
> >> > I
> >> > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
> >> > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
> >> > Foxhole
> >>
> >>
> >> At the C:\ prompt, type scanreg /opt /fix and let it run. (scanreg space
> >> /opt
> >> space /fix)
> >> Repeat it two more times.
> >> May not help, but ???
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

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Yep, you're right.

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uH2Hgt6tFHA.1256@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It could be worth pursuing, but he said in his first post "I tried the
scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing." That would normally, you know, cover
Win.ini & System.ini too.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23gAC2E1tFHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| If the changes were made to the system.ini of win.ini, using msconfig, the
original
| files are in the Windows folder with a .tsh extension.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
| news:uql5$vztFHA.256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > You haven't tried everything yet.
| >
| > Start the machine and immediately press/hold down the ctrl key or continually
| > tap F8 until the startup menu appears.
| > Select DOS command prompt and press Enter.
| > At the prompt, if it is anything other than c:\windows, type each command below
| > and press Enter:
| > cd c:\windows
| > edit win.ini
| >
| > Use your keyboard up/down arrow keys.
| > Look for any lines containing MCI. If they have a REM or ; in front of the
| > line, remove the REM or ;.
| > If you did any editing, save before exiting.
| > Press ALT+F, select Exit and press Enter.
| >
| > At the prompt, type and press Enter:
| > edit sysedit.ini
| > Use your keyboard up/down arrow keys.
| > Look for any lines containing MCI. If they have a REM or ; in front of the
| > line, remove the REM or ;.
| > If you did any editing, save before exiting and rebooting.
| >
| > If nothing appeared out of order, up/down key to the line: Shell=Explorer.exe
| > Change it to: Shell=msconfig.exe
| > Press ALT+F, select save and then exit.
| > Reboot
| >
| > With any luck it will boot to the desktop with only the msconfig window on the
| > wallpaper. If it gets to this point, look under the System.ini and Win.ini tabs
| > for entries containing MCI.
| > If they are unchecked, recheck them.
| >
| > May as well look under all tabs for anything unchecked.
| > Once done click Apply > Ok and reboot back to DOS.
| > Edit Shell= back to explorer in system.ini, save and reboot.
| >
| > If still no joy, there may be something between the autoexec.bat and/or
| > config.sys that is used for Windows that is missing, corrupt or rem'd out.
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| >
| > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:AD437A35-DDBE-4B90-A1FE-A040A424D6EA@microsoft.com...
| > >I want to thank everyone for all the time and suggestions. I have tried
| > > everything even went to a friends house and made the floppys. I have worked
| > > all afternoon and still no joy. I guess this thing will need to be formatted
| > > and reinstall 98SE. I have the installation CD, but the laptop only has
| > > floppy. I'll figure out something because it is a pretty nice little computer
| > > even if it is about 6 or 7 years old.
| > > Again thanks for all suggestions.
| > > Foxhole
| > >
| > > "Buffalo" wrote:
| > >
| > >>
| > >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > >> news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
| > >> > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
| > >> > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said he was
| > >> > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember what.
| > >> > I
| > >> > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
| > >> > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
| > >> > Foxhole
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> At the C:\ prompt, type scanreg /opt /fix and let it run. (scanreg space
| > >> /opt
| > >> space /fix)
| > >> Repeat it two more times.
| > >> May not help, but ???
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
|

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Oops, you're right. System.tsh is only created if you disable the *entire*
system.ini in msconfig> selective startup.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:%23eEwhL9tFHA.2792@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Not that I can find. I tested only with system.ini and it remains system.ini
> in the Windows folder. By unchecking the entire category MCI system.ini shows
> REM; TSHOOT in front of all listed under MCI.
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
>
>
> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23gAC2E1tFHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > If the changes were made to the system.ini of win.ini, using msconfig, the
> > original
> > files are in the Windows folder with a .tsh extension.
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> > news:uql5$vztFHA.256@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> You haven't tried everything yet.
> >>
> >> Start the machine and immediately press/hold down the ctrl key or
> >> continually
> >> tap F8 until the startup menu appears.
> >> Select DOS command prompt and press Enter.
> >> At the prompt, if it is anything other than c:\windows, type each command
> >> below
> >> and press Enter:
> >> cd c:\windows
> >> edit win.ini
> >>
> >> Use your keyboard up/down arrow keys.
> >> Look for any lines containing MCI. If they have a REM or ; in front of the
> >> line, remove the REM or ;.
> >> If you did any editing, save before exiting.
> >> Press ALT+F, select Exit and press Enter.
> >>
> >> At the prompt, type and press Enter:
> >> edit sysedit.ini
> >> Use your keyboard up/down arrow keys.
> >> Look for any lines containing MCI. If they have a REM or ; in front of the
> >> line, remove the REM or ;.
> >> If you did any editing, save before exiting and rebooting.
> >>
> >> If nothing appeared out of order, up/down key to the line:
> >> Shell=Explorer.exe
> >> Change it to: Shell=msconfig.exe
> >> Press ALT+F, select save and then exit.
> >> Reboot
> >>
> >> With any luck it will boot to the desktop with only the msconfig window on
> >> the
> >> wallpaper. If it gets to this point, look under the System.ini and Win.ini
> >> tabs
> >> for entries containing MCI.
> >> If they are unchecked, recheck them.
> >>
> >> May as well look under all tabs for anything unchecked.
> >> Once done click Apply > Ok and reboot back to DOS.
> >> Edit Shell= back to explorer in system.ini, save and reboot.
> >>
> >> If still no joy, there may be something between the autoexec.bat and/or
> >> config.sys that is used for Windows that is missing, corrupt or rem'd out.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >>
> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:AD437A35-DDBE-4B90-A1FE-A040A424D6EA@microsoft.com...
> >> >I want to thank everyone for all the time and suggestions. I have tried
> >> > everything even went to a friends house and made the floppys. I have worked
> >> > all afternoon and still no joy. I guess this thing will need to be
> >> > formatted
> >> > and reinstall 98SE. I have the installation CD, but the laptop only has
> >> > floppy. I'll figure out something because it is a pretty nice little
> >> > computer
> >> > even if it is about 6 or 7 years old.
> >> > Again thanks for all suggestions.
> >> > Foxhole
> >> >
> >> > "Buffalo" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
> >> >> > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said he
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember
> >> >> > what.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
> >> >> > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
> >> >> > Foxhole
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> At the C:\ prompt, type scanreg /opt /fix and let it run. (scanreg
> >> >> space
> >> >> /opt
> >> >> space /fix)
> >> >> Repeat it two more times.
> >> >> May not help, but ???
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
>

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Correct, as would be with .sys and .bat also. The only difference between
disabling selected entries in each using msconfig, or manually REM'ing via text
editor or sysedit, is the added ; and tshoot. I was all over the place editing
and rebooting before posting anything about changing SHELL=, it's been too long
to remember exactly what msconfig.exe did as the shell.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:u8EjpV9tFHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Oops, you're right. System.tsh is only created if you disable the *entire*
> system.ini in msconfig> selective startup.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>

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"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:%23gVp%23m%23tFHA.2072@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%233HWYW%23tFHA.3588@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > | Edit Shell= back to explorer in system.ini, save and reboot.
| >
| > Why? Do it in MSConfig before rebooting!
|
| Good point. One thing I've never done is edit in msconfig or a
windows text
| editor, I've always used DOS or sysedit.
|

I have a few early EDITs in there from before switching. I thought it
would be good to have a box to un/check.

| See now, who says you can't teach an old dog a new trick. The
problem now is
| retaining it.

Yep. And that's one reason I wish Foxhole would show back up right
quick!

|
|
| --
|
| Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
| http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|
| Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
|

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

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"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9A34ADC6-2142-4059-8859-5452E57EA4B5@microsoft.com...
> Brian
> I finally got into edit system.ini & edit win.ini and removed all of
> ;rem under mci.

I'm going to have to recheck what/if anything is missing before the =,
otherwise Tshoot if present should be removed as well as anREM;.
Actually I'd be interested in seeing what is in system.ini for the line
Shell=.

> Then dir system.* it shows Directory of C:\Windows it list 5 files
> Then dir win* it shows 17 files

What are the names of all the files for each?

> I tried to reboot and it still hangs at the same place.
> I was not doing everything right is the reason these thing were not showing
> before, like leaving out the * and was not C: Windows just C:\>.
> I am not used to doing this. It was totally my mistake. I am going back and
> do everything again and see what happens.
> Should I remove the ;rem in front of everything ?

See above.

I'm also interested what shows in the C: directory.
At the prompt:

cd c:\
dir c:\

I'm not one to give up easily, but we may find that a fresh install is the
only possible solution aside from defective hardware, we'll see.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Brian
C:\Windows>dir system*
These are the files:
System CB
System 001
System ORG
System INI
System BAD

dir win*

WINSOCK DLL
WIN COM
WINFILE EXE
WINHELP EXE
WINHLP32 EXE
WININIT EXE
WINREP EXE
WINVER EXE
WINLOGO GIF
WINUPD ICO
WINIPCFG EXE
WIN 001
WIN386 SWP
WINMINE INI
WINFILE INI
WINMINE EXE
WIN INI

dir c:\

SCANDISK LOG
COMMAND COM
WINDOWS <DIR>
NETLOG TXT
MY DOCU~1 <DIR>
PROGRA~1 <DIR>
THINKPAD <DIR>
SETUPXLG TXT
DC331 DLL
CONFIG DOS
AUTOEXEC BAT
CONFIG SYS
DC23 DAT
MAINTE~1 <DIR>
AUTOEXEC TSH
HOLDING <DIR>
WINDOW~1 BMK
EXE

You ask about Shell= in system.ini There is not any Shell=

I removed rem and Tshoot.
I rebooted and it went further and stayed on longer but this time it made it
to just past Win 98 Logo screen but then frooze again but it stayed on about
15 or 20 seconds longer.

If I have too I will do a clean install but I would rather try to work
through this so maybe I can learn something. I have done clean install before
on a computer with a CD drive but never with floopy. The local Computer
Rescue store said they would check the hardware and install Win 98 if
everything is ok for $65. But I learn nothing from that.
I will be out of pocket tomorrow night, Thursday, I am starting a programing
course.
Thank You for the help.
Foxhole


"Brian A." wrote:

> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9A34ADC6-2142-4059-8859-5452E57EA4B5@microsoft.com...
> > Brian
> > I finally got into edit system.ini & edit win.ini and removed all of
> > ;rem under mci.
>
> I'm going to have to recheck what/if anything is missing before the =,
> otherwise Tshoot if present should be removed as well as anREM;.
> Actually I'd be interested in seeing what is in system.ini for the line
> Shell=.
>
> > Then dir system.* it shows Directory of C:\Windows it list 5 files
> > Then dir win* it shows 17 files
>
> What are the names of all the files for each?
>
> > I tried to reboot and it still hangs at the same place.
> > I was not doing everything right is the reason these thing were not showing
> > before, like leaving out the * and was not C: Windows just C:\>.
> > I am not used to doing this. It was totally my mistake. I am going back and
> > do everything again and see what happens.
> > Should I remove the ;rem in front of everything ?
>
> See above.
>
> I'm also interested what shows in the C: directory.
> At the prompt:
>
> cd c:\
> dir c:\
>
> I'm not one to give up easily, but we may find that a fresh install is the
> only possible solution aside from defective hardware, we'll see.
>
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
>
>

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Gary
I looked again and there is not any Shell= anything. And to be honest I
don"t know how to look at Shell.BAD. or how to copy to floppy since the
computer will not boot.
These DOS commands are all pretty new to me. The only one I knew before
Sunday was scanreg/restore. I am sorry that I can not be more help to you or
myself.
Thank you for trying to help me.
Foxhole

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Look at System.ini again, and be *sure* there is no Shell= line (note, that's
> just what it starts with.)
>
> Use the same technique to look at Shell.BAD and see if there's a Shell= line.
> Should be near the top.
>
> Better yet: Copy those files from the HD to a floppy disk and send them to me at
> grystmill@mvps.org. Just System.ini and Win.bad.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B4092079-733F-4912-94E7-0E736350A8CE@microsoft.com...
> > Brian
> > C:\Windows>dir system*
> > These are the files:
> > System CB
> > System 001
> > System ORG
> > System INI
> > System BAD
> >
> > dir win*
> >
> > WINSOCK DLL
> > WIN COM
> > WINFILE EXE
> > WINHELP EXE
> > WINHLP32 EXE
> > WININIT EXE
> > WINREP EXE
> > WINVER EXE
> > WINLOGO GIF
> > WINUPD ICO
> > WINIPCFG EXE
> > WIN 001
> > WIN386 SWP
> > WINMINE INI
> > WINFILE INI
> > WINMINE EXE
> > WIN INI
> >
> > dir c:\
> >
> > SCANDISK LOG
> > COMMAND COM
> > WINDOWS <DIR>
> > NETLOG TXT
> > MY DOCU~1 <DIR>
> > PROGRA~1 <DIR>
> > THINKPAD <DIR>
> > SETUPXLG TXT
> > DC331 DLL
> > CONFIG DOS
> > AUTOEXEC BAT
> > CONFIG SYS
> > DC23 DAT
> > MAINTE~1 <DIR>
> > AUTOEXEC TSH
> > HOLDING <DIR>
> > WINDOW~1 BMK
> > EXE
> >
> > You ask about Shell= in system.ini There is not any Shell=
> >
> > I removed rem and Tshoot.
> > I rebooted and it went further and stayed on longer but this time it made it
> > to just past Win 98 Logo screen but then frooze again but it stayed on about
> > 15 or 20 seconds longer.
> >
> > If I have too I will do a clean install but I would rather try to work
> > through this so maybe I can learn something. I have done clean install before
> > on a computer with a CD drive but never with floopy. The local Computer
> > Rescue store said they would check the hardware and install Win 98 if
> > everything is ok for $65. But I learn nothing from that.
> > I will be out of pocket tomorrow night, Thursday, I am starting a programing
> > course.
> > Thank You for the help.
> > Foxhole
> >
> >
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9A34ADC6-2142-4059-8859-5452E57EA4B5@microsoft.com...
> >> > Brian
> >> > I finally got into edit system.ini & edit win.ini and removed all of
> >> > ;rem under mci.
> >>
> >> I'm going to have to recheck what/if anything is missing before the =,
> >> otherwise Tshoot if present should be removed as well as anREM;.
> >> Actually I'd be interested in seeing what is in system.ini for the line
> >> Shell=.
> >>
> >> > Then dir system.* it shows Directory of C:\Windows it list 5 files
> >> > Then dir win* it shows 17 files
> >>
> >> What are the names of all the files for each?
> >>
> >> > I tried to reboot and it still hangs at the same place.
> >> > I was not doing everything right is the reason these thing were not showing
> >> > before, like leaving out the * and was not C: Windows just C:\>.
> >> > I am not used to doing this. It was totally my mistake. I am going back and
> >> > do everything again and see what happens.
> >> > Should I remove the ;rem in front of everything ?
> >>
> >> See above.
> >>
> >> I'm also interested what shows in the C: directory.
> >> At the prompt:
> >>
> >> cd c:\
> >> dir c:\
> >>
> >> I'm not one to give up easily, but we may find that a fresh install is the
> >> only possible solution aside from defective hardware, we'll see.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >>
> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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LOL! We're both calling it by the wrong name: It's SYSTEM.BAD, not Win.bad or
Shell.bad, <s>. Must be getting nigh dinnertime. Sorry, I should have added the
instructions.

You can look at System.BAD the same way you looked at System.ini:

edit c:\windows\system.bad

The commands for Copy are as follows:

copy c:\windows\system.ini a:\
copy c:\windows\system.bad a:\

"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:093538F3-F131-422A-A077-AE05CFBA8512@microsoft.com...
> Gary
> I looked again and there is not any Shell= anything. And to be honest I
> don"t know how to look at Shell.BAD. or how to copy to floppy since the
> computer will not boot.
> These DOS commands are all pretty new to me. The only one I knew before
> Sunday was scanreg/restore. I am sorry that I can not be more help to you or
> myself.
> Thank you for trying to help me.
> Foxhole
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Look at System.ini again, and be *sure* there is no Shell= line (note, that's
>> just what it starts with.)
>>
>> Use the same technique to look at Shell.BAD and see if there's a Shell= line.
>> Should be near the top.
>>
>> Better yet: Copy those files from the HD to a floppy disk and send them to me
>> at
>> grystmill@mvps.org. Just System.ini and Win.bad.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>
>> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B4092079-733F-4912-94E7-0E736350A8CE@microsoft.com...
>> > Brian
>> > C:\Windows>dir system*
>> > These are the files:
>> > System CB
>> > System 001
>> > System ORG
>> > System INI
>> > System BAD
>> >
>> > dir win*
>> >
>> > WINSOCK DLL
>> > WIN COM
>> > WINFILE EXE
>> > WINHELP EXE
>> > WINHLP32 EXE
>> > WININIT EXE
>> > WINREP EXE
>> > WINVER EXE
>> > WINLOGO GIF
>> > WINUPD ICO
>> > WINIPCFG EXE
>> > WIN 001
>> > WIN386 SWP
>> > WINMINE INI
>> > WINFILE INI
>> > WINMINE EXE
>> > WIN INI
>> >
>> > dir c:\
>> >
>> > SCANDISK LOG
>> > COMMAND COM
>> > WINDOWS <DIR>
>> > NETLOG TXT
>> > MY DOCU~1 <DIR>
>> > PROGRA~1 <DIR>
>> > THINKPAD <DIR>
>> > SETUPXLG TXT
>> > DC331 DLL
>> > CONFIG DOS
>> > AUTOEXEC BAT
>> > CONFIG SYS
>> > DC23 DAT
>> > MAINTE~1 <DIR>
>> > AUTOEXEC TSH
>> > HOLDING <DIR>
>> > WINDOW~1 BMK
>> > EXE
>> >
>> > You ask about Shell= in system.ini There is not any Shell=
>> >
>> > I removed rem and Tshoot.
>> > I rebooted and it went further and stayed on longer but this time it made
>> > it
>> > to just past Win 98 Logo screen but then frooze again but it stayed on
>> > about
>> > 15 or 20 seconds longer.
>> >
>> > If I have too I will do a clean install but I would rather try to work
>> > through this so maybe I can learn something. I have done clean install
>> > before
>> > on a computer with a CD drive but never with floopy. The local Computer
>> > Rescue store said they would check the hardware and install Win 98 if
>> > everything is ok for $65. But I learn nothing from that.
>> > I will be out of pocket tomorrow night, Thursday, I am starting a
>> > programing
>> > course.
>> > Thank You for the help.
>> > Foxhole
>> >
>> >
>> > "Brian A." wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:9A34ADC6-2142-4059-8859-5452E57EA4B5@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Brian
>> >> > I finally got into edit system.ini & edit win.ini and removed all of
>> >> > ;rem under mci.
>> >>
>> >> I'm going to have to recheck what/if anything is missing before the =,
>> >> otherwise Tshoot if present should be removed as well as anREM;.
>> >> Actually I'd be interested in seeing what is in system.ini for the line
>> >> Shell=.
>> >>
>> >> > Then dir system.* it shows Directory of C:\Windows it list 5 files
>> >> > Then dir win* it shows 17 files
>> >>
>> >> What are the names of all the files for each?
>> >>
>> >> > I tried to reboot and it still hangs at the same place.
>> >> > I was not doing everything right is the reason these thing were not
>> >> > showing
>> >> > before, like leaving out the * and was not C: Windows just C:\>.
>> >> > I am not used to doing this. It was totally my mistake. I am going back
>> >> > and
>> >> > do everything again and see what happens.
>> >> > Should I remove the ;rem in front of everything ?
>> >>
>> >> See above.
>> >>
>> >> I'm also interested what shows in the C: directory.
>> >> At the prompt:
>> >>
>> >> cd c:\
>> >> dir c:\
>> >>
>> >> I'm not one to give up easily, but we may find that a fresh install is
>> >> the
>> >> only possible solution aside from defective hardware, we'll see.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>> >>
>> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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Gary
I was able to copy the system.ini to floppy but when I tried to copy
system.bad it copies for a while and then says insufficient disk space. I am
going to have to buy a external floppy drive so I can send you system.ini. Or
I will try to send it from where I work if I can. I don't use a computer a
work but we have some and I'll see what I can do.
We are having a computer show here this week end,we have one every 3rd
Saturday of each month and I can probably get a floppy drive pretty cheap.
Thank you very much for the help. I am sure learning a few things I didn't
know before.
Foxhole

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> LOL! We're both calling it by the wrong name: It's SYSTEM.BAD, not Win.bad or
> Shell.bad, <s>. Must be getting nigh dinnertime. Sorry, I should have added the
> instructions.
>
> You can look at System.BAD the same way you looked at System.ini:
>
> edit c:\windows\system.bad
>
> The commands for Copy are as follows:
>
> copy c:\windows\system.ini a:\
> copy c:\windows\system.bad a:\
>
> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:093538F3-F131-422A-A077-AE05CFBA8512@microsoft.com...
> > Gary
> > I looked again and there is not any Shell= anything. And to be honest I
> > don"t know how to look at Shell.BAD. or how to copy to floppy since the
> > computer will not boot.
> > These DOS commands are all pretty new to me. The only one I knew before
> > Sunday was scanreg/restore. I am sorry that I can not be more help to you or
> > myself.
> > Thank you for trying to help me.
> > Foxhole
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >
> >> Look at System.ini again, and be *sure* there is no Shell= line (note, that's
> >> just what it starts with.)
> >>
> >> Use the same technique to look at Shell.BAD and see if there's a Shell= line.
> >> Should be near the top.
> >>
> >> Better yet: Copy those files from the HD to a floppy disk and send them to me
> >> at
> >> grystmill@mvps.org. Just System.ini and Win.bad.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >>
> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:B4092079-733F-4912-94E7-0E736350A8CE@microsoft.com...
> >> > Brian
> >> > C:\Windows>dir system*
> >> > These are the files:
> >> > System CB
> >> > System 001
> >> > System ORG
> >> > System INI
> >> > System BAD
> >> >
> >> > dir win*
> >> >
> >> > WINSOCK DLL
> >> > WIN COM
> >> > WINFILE EXE
> >> > WINHELP EXE
> >> > WINHLP32 EXE
> >> > WININIT EXE
> >> > WINREP EXE
> >> > WINVER EXE
> >> > WINLOGO GIF
> >> > WINUPD ICO
> >> > WINIPCFG EXE
> >> > WIN 001
> >> > WIN386 SWP
> >> > WINMINE INI
> >> > WINFILE INI
> >> > WINMINE EXE
> >> > WIN INI
> >> >
> >> > dir c:\
> >> >
> >> > SCANDISK LOG
> >> > COMMAND COM
> >> > WINDOWS <DIR>
> >> > NETLOG TXT
> >> > MY DOCU~1 <DIR>
> >> > PROGRA~1 <DIR>
> >> > THINKPAD <DIR>
> >> > SETUPXLG TXT
> >> > DC331 DLL
> >> > CONFIG DOS
> >> > AUTOEXEC BAT
> >> > CONFIG SYS
> >> > DC23 DAT
> >> > MAINTE~1 <DIR>
> >> > AUTOEXEC TSH
> >> > HOLDING <DIR>
> >> > WINDOW~1 BMK
> >> > EXE
> >> >
> >> > You ask about Shell= in system.ini There is not any Shell=
> >> >
> >> > I removed rem and Tshoot.
> >> > I rebooted and it went further and stayed on longer but this time it made
> >> > it
> >> > to just past Win 98 Logo screen but then frooze again but it stayed on
> >> > about
> >> > 15 or 20 seconds longer.
> >> >
> >> > If I have too I will do a clean install but I would rather try to work
> >> > through this so maybe I can learn something. I have done clean install
> >> > before
> >> > on a computer with a CD drive but never with floopy. The local Computer
> >> > Rescue store said they would check the hardware and install Win 98 if
> >> > everything is ok for $65. But I learn nothing from that.
> >> > I will be out of pocket tomorrow night, Thursday, I am starting a
> >> > programing
> >> > course.
> >> > Thank You for the help.
> >> > Foxhole
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:9A34ADC6-2142-4059-8859-5452E57EA4B5@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Brian
> >> >> > I finally got into edit system.ini & edit win.ini and removed all of
> >> >> > ;rem under mci.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm going to have to recheck what/if anything is missing before the =,
> >> >> otherwise Tshoot if present should be removed as well as anREM;.
> >> >> Actually I'd be interested in seeing what is in system.ini for the line
> >> >> Shell=.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Then dir system.* it shows Directory of C:\Windows it list 5 files
> >> >> > Then dir win* it shows 17 files
> >> >>
> >> >> What are the names of all the files for each?
> >> >>
> >> >> > I tried to reboot and it still hangs at the same place.
> >> >> > I was not doing everything right is the reason these thing were not
> >> >> > showing
> >> >> > before, like leaving out the * and was not C: Windows just C:\>.
> >> >> > I am not used to doing this. It was totally my mistake. I am going back
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > do everything again and see what happens.
> >> >> > Should I remove the ;rem in front of everything ?
> >> >>
> >> >> See above.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm also interested what shows in the C: directory.
> >> >> At the prompt:
> >> >>
> >> >> cd c:\
> >> >> dir c:\
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not one to give up easily, but we may find that a fresh install is
> >> >> the
> >> >> only possible solution aside from defective hardware, we'll see.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >> >>
> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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Never mind. It's not what I thought it was. Sounds like a copy of System.dat,
which is part of the Registry. (System.001 is also a backup of System.dat, made
right after installation.)

Just send me the System.ini, though at this point, reinstalling over the top, or
the nuclear option, are looking pretty good.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:21455B8D-A4E8-4335-A553-C8A096FAA1B7@microsoft.com...
> Gary
> I was able to copy the system.ini to floppy but when I tried to copy
> system.bad it copies for a while and then says insufficient disk space. I am
> going to have to buy a external floppy drive so I can send you system.ini. Or
> I will try to send it from where I work if I can. I don't use a computer a
> work but we have some and I'll see what I can do.
> We are having a computer show here this week end,we have one every 3rd
> Saturday of each month and I can probably get a floppy drive pretty cheap.
> Thank you very much for the help. I am sure learning a few things I didn't
> know before.
> Foxhole
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> LOL! We're both calling it by the wrong name: It's SYSTEM.BAD, not Win.bad or
>> Shell.bad, <s>. Must be getting nigh dinnertime. Sorry, I should have added
>> the
>> instructions.
>>
>> You can look at System.BAD the same way you looked at System.ini:
>>
>> edit c:\windows\system.bad
>>
>> The commands for Copy are as follows:
>>
>> copy c:\windows\system.ini a:\
>> copy c:\windows\system.bad a:\
>>
>> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:093538F3-F131-422A-A077-AE05CFBA8512@microsoft.com...
>> > Gary
>> > I looked again and there is not any Shell= anything. And to be honest I
>> > don"t know how to look at Shell.BAD. or how to copy to floppy since the
>> > computer will not boot.
>> > These DOS commands are all pretty new to me. The only one I knew before
>> > Sunday was scanreg/restore. I am sorry that I can not be more help to you
>> > or
>> > myself.
>> > Thank you for trying to help me.
>> > Foxhole
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Look at System.ini again, and be *sure* there is no Shell= line (note,
>> >> that's
>> >> just what it starts with.)
>> >>
>> >> Use the same technique to look at Shell.BAD and see if there's a Shell=
>> >> line.
>> >> Should be near the top.
>> >>
>> >> Better yet: Copy those files from the HD to a floppy disk and send them to
>> >> me
>> >> at
>> >> grystmill@mvps.org. Just System.ini and Win.bad.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >>
>> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:B4092079-733F-4912-94E7-0E736350A8CE@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Brian
>> >> > C:\Windows>dir system*
>> >> > These are the files:
>> >> > System CB
>> >> > System 001
>> >> > System ORG
>> >> > System INI
>> >> > System BAD
>> >> >
>> >> > dir win*
>> >> >
>> >> > WINSOCK DLL
>> >> > WIN COM
>> >> > WINFILE EXE
>> >> > WINHELP EXE
>> >> > WINHLP32 EXE
>> >> > WININIT EXE
>> >> > WINREP EXE
>> >> > WINVER EXE
>> >> > WINLOGO GIF
>> >> > WINUPD ICO
>> >> > WINIPCFG EXE
>> >> > WIN 001
>> >> > WIN386 SWP
>> >> > WINMINE INI
>> >> > WINFILE INI
>> >> > WINMINE EXE
>> >> > WIN INI
>> >> >
>> >> > dir c:\
>> >> >
>> >> > SCANDISK LOG
>> >> > COMMAND COM
>> >> > WINDOWS <DIR>
>> >> > NETLOG TXT
>> >> > MY DOCU~1 <DIR>
>> >> > PROGRA~1 <DIR>
>> >> > THINKPAD <DIR>
>> >> > SETUPXLG TXT
>> >> > DC331 DLL
>> >> > CONFIG DOS
>> >> > AUTOEXEC BAT
>> >> > CONFIG SYS
>> >> > DC23 DAT
>> >> > MAINTE~1 <DIR>
>> >> > AUTOEXEC TSH
>> >> > HOLDING <DIR>
>> >> > WINDOW~1 BMK
>> >> > EXE
>> >> >
>> >> > You ask about Shell= in system.ini There is not any Shell=
>> >> >
>> >> > I removed rem and Tshoot.
>> >> > I rebooted and it went further and stayed on longer but this time it
>> >> > made
>> >> > it
>> >> > to just past Win 98 Logo screen but then frooze again but it stayed on
>> >> > about
>> >> > 15 or 20 seconds longer.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I have too I will do a clean install but I would rather try to work
>> >> > through this so maybe I can learn something. I have done clean install
>> >> > before
>> >> > on a computer with a CD drive but never with floopy. The local Computer
>> >> > Rescue store said they would check the hardware and install Win 98 if
>> >> > everything is ok for $65. But I learn nothing from that.
>> >> > I will be out of pocket tomorrow night, Thursday, I am starting a
>> >> > programing
>> >> > course.
>> >> > Thank You for the help.
>> >> > Foxhole
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Brian A." wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:9A34ADC6-2142-4059-8859-5452E57EA4B5@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Brian
>> >> >> > I finally got into edit system.ini & edit win.ini and removed all
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > ;rem under mci.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm going to have to recheck what/if anything is missing before the
>> >> >> =,
>> >> >> otherwise Tshoot if present should be removed as well as anREM;.
>> >> >> Actually I'd be interested in seeing what is in system.ini for the
>> >> >> line
>> >> >> Shell=.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Then dir system.* it shows Directory of C:\Windows it list 5 files
>> >> >> > Then dir win* it shows 17 files
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What are the names of all the files for each?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > I tried to reboot and it still hangs at the same place.
>> >> >> > I was not doing everything right is the reason these thing were not
>> >> >> > showing
>> >> >> > before, like leaving out the * and was not C: Windows just C:\>.
>> >> >> > I am not used to doing this. It was totally my mistake. I am going
>> >> >> > back
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > do everything again and see what happens.
>> >> >> > Should I remove the ;rem in front of everything ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> See above.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm also interested what shows in the C: directory.
>> >> >> At the prompt:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> cd c:\
>> >> >> dir c:\
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm not one to give up easily, but we may find that a fresh install
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> only possible solution aside from defective hardware, we'll see.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> >> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> >> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

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Let's see if you have the install files on the disk. At the prompt, if not
already c:\windows>, type:
cd c:\windows

Is there a folder listed as either Precopy or Options? If so at the prompt
type:
cd c:\windows\precopy
Is there anything in the precopy? If so, what?

cd c:\windows\options
Is there anything or a folder named CABS in the options folder?
If there is a Cabs folder type:
cd c:\windows\options\cabs
Are there many .cab files, many which are named win98_##.cab? ## = actual
numbers, i.e.: win98_23.cab.

If the cab files are present then you could try an overinstall to see if we can
at the least get 98 to run. I do however suggest a fresh install which would be
clean of any corruption that may be present that an overinstall won't truly fix.

If it comes down to reinstalling one way or another, make sure you have the
Product Key which can be pulled from the registry before doing anything towards
an install.

Boot with a startup floppy or to a command prompt and run either of these:
C:\Windows\command\Find /I “ProductKey” c:\windows\system.dat
C:\Windows\command\Find /I “ProductKey” c:\system.1st


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B4092079-733F-4912-94E7-0E736350A8CE@microsoft.com...
> Brian
> C:\Windows>dir system*
> These are the files:
> System CB
> System 001
> System ORG
> System INI
> System BAD
>
> dir win*
>
> WINSOCK DLL
> WIN COM
> WINFILE EXE
> WINHELP EXE
> WINHLP32 EXE
> WININIT EXE
> WINREP EXE
> WINVER EXE
> WINLOGO GIF
> WINUPD ICO
> WINIPCFG EXE
> WIN 001
> WIN386 SWP
> WINMINE INI
> WINFILE INI
> WINMINE EXE
> WIN INI
>
> dir c:\
>
> SCANDISK LOG
> COMMAND COM
> WINDOWS <DIR>
> NETLOG TXT
> MY DOCU~1 <DIR>
> PROGRA~1 <DIR>
> THINKPAD <DIR>
> SETUPXLG TXT
> DC331 DLL
> CONFIG DOS
> AUTOEXEC BAT
> CONFIG SYS
> DC23 DAT
> MAINTE~1 <DIR>
> AUTOEXEC TSH
> HOLDING <DIR>
> WINDOW~1 BMK
> EXE
>
> You ask about Shell= in system.ini There is not any Shell=
>
> I removed rem and Tshoot.
> I rebooted and it went further and stayed on longer but this time it made it
> to just past Win 98 Logo screen but then frooze again but it stayed on about
> 15 or 20 seconds longer.
>
> If I have too I will do a clean install but I would rather try to work
> through this so maybe I can learn something. I have done clean install before
> on a computer with a CD drive but never with floopy. The local Computer
> Rescue store said they would check the hardware and install Win 98 if
> everything is ok for $65. But I learn nothing from that.
> I will be out of pocket tomorrow night, Thursday, I am starting a programing
> course.
> Thank You for the help.
> Foxhole
>
>
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9A34ADC6-2142-4059-8859-5452E57EA4B5@microsoft.com...
>> > Brian
>> > I finally got into edit system.ini & edit win.ini and removed all of
>> > ;rem under mci.
>>
>> I'm going to have to recheck what/if anything is missing before the =,
>> otherwise Tshoot if present should be removed as well as anREM;.
>> Actually I'd be interested in seeing what is in system.ini for the line
>> Shell=.
>>
>> > Then dir system.* it shows Directory of C:\Windows it list 5 files
>> > Then dir win* it shows 17 files
>>
>> What are the names of all the files for each?
>>
>> > I tried to reboot and it still hangs at the same place.
>> > I was not doing everything right is the reason these thing were not showing
>> > before, like leaving out the * and was not C: Windows just C:\>.
>> > I am not used to doing this. It was totally my mistake. I am going back and
>> > do everything again and see what happens.
>> > Should I remove the ;rem in front of everything ?
>>
>> See above.
>>
>> I'm also interested what shows in the C: directory.
>> At the prompt:
>>
>> cd c:\
>> dir c:\
>>
>> I'm not one to give up easily, but we may find that a fresh install is the
>> only possible solution aside from defective hardware, we'll see.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>>
>>

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As an alternative, start the Thinkpad in "Command Prompt", type
"dir /s c:\mini.cab" and press "Enter". If the file exists, type in
the drive and path of the directory, add "setup.exe" and press "Enter".
For example, if "Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS" is
displayed, type in

c:\windows\options\cabs\setup.exe

and press "Enter". Then try reinstalling Windows.

Ben

"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:191BAD18-F3CA-49C3-A8F8-106D8DD20430@microsoft.com...
> Ben
> Thanks for the info. I will try your suggestion as soon as I can get access
> to a floppy as my new computer does not have a floppy drive and I gave away
> my old computer about a month ago. I will take it into work Monday, using
> computer with 2000 pro about 3 years old and it has a floppy.
> Again Thanks.
> Foxhole
>
> "Ben Myers" wrote:
>
> > Copy and paste the following text to Notepad and save it to a floppy as
> > "a:\repair.reg". Start the Thinkpad in "Command Prompt", insert the
> > floppy, type "regedit a:\repair.reg" and press "Enter". Then type
> > "win" to start Windows. If you get the option to repair Internet
> > Explorer, select it. If you are prompted to restart, please remove
> > the floppy before doing so.
> >
> > REGEDIT4
> > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\1]
> > "ie6"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE6Maintenance"
> > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx\2]
> > "ie5"="||rundll32 setupwbv,IE5Maintenance"
> > [End]
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:7BE6FF6E-9A8B-4702-8B02-D64BB5BFCBA6@microsoft.com...
> > > Yesterday someone gave me a IBM Thinkpad 760EL. OS Win 98SE.
> > > It will not boot past the Win 98 screen it just stops there. He said he was
> > > messing around msconfig and unchecked something and doesn't remember what. I
> > > tried the scanreg/restore in dos but still nothing.
> > > Does anyone have helpful any ideas ? Thank You for your attention.
> > > Foxhole
> >

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Too bad. Well, it could be worth a try to find a backup of System.ini &
possibly Win.ini to restore as Brian A. has posted. I know you have
tried "Scanreg /Restore", & it didn't work, though. That normally will
also restore those two files. Stick with Brian A. on all that or with
Terhune. Anyway, I think all you have to try with is System.001 &
Win.001. So...

REN System.ini System.iniX
REN System.001 System.ini
REN Win.ini Win.iniX
REN Win.001 Win.ini

Can you reboot to Windows?

I do know you have Windows Installation .cab's on the hard drive . You
posted elsewhere...

......Quote...........
| I have tried all of those the only one that I get anything on is:
| DIR /a /s C:Win98*.cab
| and it shows 48 files not the 55 yours show
......EOQ.............

The folder that contains them-- what was it?-- should also contain
"Setup.exe". That can be used to install Windows, but I'll step back &
let others talk you through it.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2AE3004-8E4B-4994-8433-4D37850D8039@microsoft.com...
| PCR
| I added shell=Explorer.exe after oemfonts which made it the 5th line
and
| still the same.
|
| Thanks for the info I really appreciate all the help. I'll just keep
trying.
| I sure am learn a few things.
| Thanks Again.
| Foxhole
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| > Add "Shell=Explorer.exe" to the [boot] section of System.ini. It is
| > usually the 3rd line of the file...
| >
| > [boot]
| > oemfonts.fon=8514oem.fon
| > shell=Explorer.exe
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:093538F3-F131-422A-A077-AE05CFBA8512@microsoft.com...
| > | Gary
| > | I looked again and there is not any Shell= anything. And to be
honest
| > I
| > | don"t know how to look at Shell.BAD. or how to copy to floppy
since
| > the
| > | computer will not boot.
| > | These DOS commands are all pretty new to me. The only one I knew
| > before
| > | Sunday was scanreg/restore. I am sorry that I can not be more help
to
| > you or
| > | myself.
| > | Thank you for trying to help me.
| > | Foxhole
| > |
| > | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Look at System.ini again, and be *sure* there is no Shell= line
| > (note, that's
| > | > just what it starts with.)
| > | >
| > | > Use the same technique to look at Shell.BAD and see if there's a
| > Shell= line.
| > | > Should be near the top.
| > | >
| > | > Better yet: Copy those files from the HD to a floppy disk and
send
| > them to me at
| > | > grystmill@mvps.org. Just System.ini and Win.bad.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Gary S. Terhune
| > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | >
| > | > "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:B4092079-733F-4912-94E7-0E736350A8CE@microsoft.com...
| > | > > Brian
| > | > > C:\Windows>dir system*
| > | > > These are the files:
| > | > > System CB
| > | > > System 001
| > | > > System ORG
| > | > > System INI
| > | > > System BAD
| > | > >
| > | > > dir win*
| > | > >
| > | > > WINSOCK DLL
| > | > > WIN COM
| > | > > WINFILE EXE
| > | > > WINHELP EXE
| > | > > WINHLP32 EXE
| > | > > WININIT EXE
| > | > > WINREP EXE
| > | > > WINVER EXE
| > | > > WINLOGO GIF
| > | > > WINUPD ICO
| > | > > WINIPCFG EXE
| > | > > WIN 001
| > | > > WIN386 SWP
| > | > > WINMINE INI
| > | > > WINFILE INI
| > | > > WINMINE EXE
| > | > > WIN INI
| > | > >
| > | > > dir c:\
| > | > >
| > | > > SCANDISK LOG
| > | > > COMMAND COM
| > | > > WINDOWS <DIR>
| > | > > NETLOG TXT
| > | > > MY DOCU~1 <DIR>
| > | > > PROGRA~1 <DIR>
| > | > > THINKPAD <DIR>
| > | > > SETUPXLG TXT
| > | > > DC331 DLL
| > | > > CONFIG DOS
| > | > > AUTOEXEC BAT
| > | > > CONFIG SYS
| > | > > DC23 DAT
| > | > > MAINTE~1 <DIR>
| > | > > AUTOEXEC TSH
| > | > > HOLDING <DIR>
| > | > > WINDOW~1 BMK
| > | > > EXE
| > | > >
| > | > > You ask about Shell= in system.ini There is not any
| > Shell=
| > | > >
| > | > > I removed rem and Tshoot.
| > | > > I rebooted and it went further and stayed on longer but this
time
| > it made it
| > | > > to just past Win 98 Logo screen but then frooze again but it
| > stayed on about
| > | > > 15 or 20 seconds longer.
| > | > >
| > | > > If I have too I will do a clean install but I would rather try
to
| > work
| > | > > through this so maybe I can learn something. I have done clean
| > install before
| > | > > on a computer with a CD drive but never with floopy. The
local
| > Computer
| > | > > Rescue store said they would check the hardware and install
Win 98
| > if
| > | > > everything is ok for $65. But I learn nothing from that.
| > | > > I will be out of pocket tomorrow night, Thursday, I am
starting a
| > programing
| > | > > course.
| > | > > Thank You for the help.
| > | > > Foxhole
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > "Brian A." wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > >> "Foxhole" <Foxhole@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
| > | > >> news:9A34ADC6-2142-4059-8859-5452E57EA4B5@microsoft.com...
| > | > >> > Brian
| > | > >> > I finally got into edit system.ini & edit win.ini and
| > removed all of
| > | > >> > ;rem under mci.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> I'm going to have to recheck what/if anything is missing
before
| > the =,
| > | > >> otherwise Tshoot if present should be removed as well as
anREM;.
| > | > >> Actually I'd be interested in seeing what is in system.ini
for
| > the line
| > | > >> Shell=.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> > Then dir system.* it shows Directory of C:\Windows it list
5
| > files
| > | > >> > Then dir win* it shows 17 files
| > | > >>
| > | > >> What are the names of all the files for each?
| > | > >>
| > | > >> > I tried to reboot and it still hangs at the same place.
| > | > >> > I was not doing everything right is the reason these thing
were
| > not showing
| > | > >> > before, like leaving out the * and was not C: Windows just
| > C:\>.
| > | > >> > I am not used to doing this. It was totally my mistake. I
am
| > going back and
| > | > >> > do everything again and see what happens.
| > | > >> > Should I remove the ;rem in front of everything ?
| > | > >>
| > | > >> See above.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> I'm also interested what shows in the C: directory.
| > | > >> At the prompt:
| > | > >>
| > | > >> cd c:\
| > | > >> dir c:\
| > | > >>
| > | > >> I'm not one to give up easily, but we may find that a fresh
| > install is the
| > | > >> only possible solution aside from defective hardware, we'll
see.
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >> --
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > | > >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > | > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > | > >> How to ask a question:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

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I wonder as well. A last resort may be to restore both win.ini and system.ini
by renaming and then renaming the .001's.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23EBximauFHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> You're right, I'm wrong. The first backup of System.dat is System.1st, not
> System.001. I wonder how big OP's System.001 is.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:eVGH7aauFHA.3548@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23k8gvKauFHA.3792@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> (System.001 is also a backup of System.dat, made right after installation.)
>>
>> Is this correct? I don't see it on any of my 98SE machines and info I find
>> on restoring the system.ini or win.ini:
>> <quote>
>> cd\windows <press enter>
>> ren system.ini system.ch <press enter>
>>
>> If after attempting to rename the system.ini you receive File not found,
>> continue to follow the below steps.
>>
>> ren system.--- system.ini <press enter>
>>
>> If after attempting to type the above command you receive file not found,
>> follow the below instructions. If you do not receive a message your
>> system.ini should be restored to its original state.
>>
>> dir system.*
>>
>> If you see a file other than system.ch such as system.bak or system.000,
>> follow the above instructions but replace the --- with the appropriate
>> extension on your computer.
>> </quote>
>>
>> I agree it's looking mighty near to a fresh install due to who knows what's
>> been corrupted.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:e%23gzrOiuFHA.3752@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Too bad. Well, it could be worth a try to find a backup of System.ini &
> possibly Win.ini to restore as Brian A. has posted. I know you have
> tried "Scanreg /Restore", & it didn't work, though. That normally will
> also restore those two files. Stick with Brian A. on all that or with
> Terhune. Anyway, I think all you have to try with is System.001 &
> Win.001. So...
>
> REN System.ini System.iniX
> REN System.001 System.ini
> REN Win.ini Win.iniX
> REN Win.001 Win.ini

{snip}

PCR, do you really have a system.001 or a win.001? I thought that was in Win95
and not 98SE.