Can't Delete Entry In Msconfig StartUp Tab

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I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat Assistant
unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.

I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and Run-) but
the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing with HKLM
and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.

I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig startup
tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0 and
left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in the
msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a HiJack
This scan.

I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google. Can
someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab entry
without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom entry.
Where else in the registry could I look for this file?
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Two places are referred to by the Startup tab in MSCONFIG that aren't Registry
entries.
1. The Startup folder in ...Start\Programs\. When disabled, these entries are
moved to ...Start\Programs\Disabled Startup Items folder (which disappears if
there are no disabled Startup items.)

2. Run= and Load= lines in Win.ini file. These are REMmed out when disabled.

On Registry location you don't mention checking is the HKLM\......\RunServices
key, right below the HKLM\.......\Run key.

Hint: When you uninstall an application that has an entry or entries in the
Startup tab of MSCONFIG, first re-enable the item(s) in MSCONFIG and Apply (or
click OK) but DO NOT restart when prompted. The pertinent commands in the
Registry or elsewhere will then be restored to their proper locations, where the
uninstaller can find them.

Hint 2: To see where the Startup commands referred to by MSCONFIG Startup tab
are located, use MSINFO32. Expand Software Environment, click on Startup
Programs.The notations are:

Per-User Run (HKCU\....\Run)
Machine Run (HKLM\....\Run)
Machine Service (HKLM\...\RunServices)
Startup Group (Start\Programs\Startup folder)
(I forget the exact format of the Win.ini entries.)

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"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
news:e2qMQH9tFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
> Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
> from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
> However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
> 5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat Assistant
> unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.
>
> I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and Run-) but
> the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing with HKLM
> and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.
>
> I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig startup
> tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0 and
> left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
> entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in the
> msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a HiJack
> This scan.
>
> I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google. Can
> someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab entry
> without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom entry.
> Where else in the registry could I look for this file?
> --
> a( : [|]=( DaffyD®
>
> Your fair-feathered friend
>
> How do you make a duck blind?
> Poke him in the eyes!
> Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo!
>
>
 
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Your hint about msinfo32 helped me to figure out the solution. Thank you.

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Two places are referred to by the Startup tab in MSCONFIG that aren't
Registry
> entries.
> 1. The Startup folder in ...Start\Programs\. When disabled, these entries
are
> moved to ...Start\Programs\Disabled Startup Items folder (which disappears
if
> there are no disabled Startup items.)
>
> 2. Run= and Load= lines in Win.ini file. These are REMmed out when
disabled.
>
> On Registry location you don't mention checking is the
HKLM\......\RunServices
> key, right below the HKLM\.......\Run key.
>
> Hint: When you uninstall an application that has an entry or entries in
the
> Startup tab of MSCONFIG, first re-enable the item(s) in MSCONFIG and Apply
(or
> click OK) but DO NOT restart when prompted. The pertinent commands in the
> Registry or elsewhere will then be restored to their proper locations,
where the
> uninstaller can find them.
>
> Hint 2: To see where the Startup commands referred to by MSCONFIG Startup
tab
> are located, use MSINFO32. Expand Software Environment, click on Startup
> Programs.The notations are:
>
> Per-User Run (HKCU\....\Run)
> Machine Run (HKLM\....\Run)
> Machine Service (HKLM\...\RunServices)
> Startup Group (Start\Programs\Startup folder)
> (I forget the exact format of the Win.ini entries.)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
>
> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e2qMQH9tFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
> > Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
> > from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
> > However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Acrobat
> > 5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat
Assistant
> > unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.
> >
> > I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and Run-)
but
> > the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing with
HKLM
> > and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
> > HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.
> >
> > I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig
startup
> > tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0 and
> > left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
> > entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in
the
> > msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a
HiJack
> > This scan.
> >
> > I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google.
Can
> > someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab entry
> > without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom
entry.
> > Where else in the registry could I look for this file?
> > --
> > a( : [|]=( DaffyD®
> >
> > Your fair-feathered friend
> >
> > How do you make a duck blind?
> > Poke him in the eyes!
> > Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo!
> >
> >
>
 
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Good thing. Thanks for the report.

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MS-MVP Shell/User

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
news:eC8isJ%23tFHA.2948@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Your hint about msinfo32 helped me to figure out the solution. Thank you.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23C8KtP9tFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Two places are referred to by the Startup tab in MSCONFIG that aren't
> Registry
>> entries.
>> 1. The Startup folder in ...Start\Programs\. When disabled, these entries
> are
>> moved to ...Start\Programs\Disabled Startup Items folder (which disappears
> if
>> there are no disabled Startup items.)
>>
>> 2. Run= and Load= lines in Win.ini file. These are REMmed out when
> disabled.
>>
>> On Registry location you don't mention checking is the
> HKLM\......\RunServices
>> key, right below the HKLM\.......\Run key.
>>
>> Hint: When you uninstall an application that has an entry or entries in
> the
>> Startup tab of MSCONFIG, first re-enable the item(s) in MSCONFIG and Apply
> (or
>> click OK) but DO NOT restart when prompted. The pertinent commands in the
>> Registry or elsewhere will then be restored to their proper locations,
> where the
>> uninstaller can find them.
>>
>> Hint 2: To see where the Startup commands referred to by MSCONFIG Startup
> tab
>> are located, use MSINFO32. Expand Software Environment, click on Startup
>> Programs.The notations are:
>>
>> Per-User Run (HKCU\....\Run)
>> Machine Run (HKLM\....\Run)
>> Machine Service (HKLM\...\RunServices)
>> Startup Group (Start\Programs\Startup folder)
>> (I forget the exact format of the Win.ini entries.)
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>
>> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:e2qMQH9tFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
>> > Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
> 1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
>> > from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
>> > However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program
> Files\Adobe\Acrobat
>> > 5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat
> Assistant
>> > unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.
>> >
>> > I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and Run-)
> but
>> > the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing with
> HKLM
>> > and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
>> > HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.
>> >
>> > I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig
> startup
>> > tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0 and
>> > left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
>> > entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in
> the
>> > msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a
> HiJack
>> > This scan.
>> >
>> > I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google.
> Can
>> > someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab entry
>> > without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom
> entry.
>> > Where else in the registry could I look for this file?
>> > --
>> > a( : [|]=( DaffyD®
>> >
>> > Your fair-feathered friend
>> >
>> > How do you make a duck blind?
>> > Poke him in the eyes!
>> > Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo!
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
 
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Try using "find" in the entire registry on acrotray.
Collapse all.
Click once on My Computer.
Press F5 to refresh.
Press CTRL+F to open the find window.
Type in acrotray.
Select look in keys, values, data and press Enter.
Look closely at each result find stops at.
To resume find press F3.

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"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
news:e2qMQH9tFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
> Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
> from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
> However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
> 5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat Assistant
> unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.
>
> I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and Run-) but
> the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing with HKLM
> and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.
>
> I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig startup
> tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0 and
> left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
> entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in the
> msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a HiJack
> This scan.
>
> I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google. Can
> someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab entry
> without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom entry.
> Where else in the registry could I look for this file?
> --
> a( : [|]=( DaffyD®
>
> Your fair-feathered friend
>
> How do you make a duck blind?
> Poke him in the eyes!
> Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo!
>
>
 
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In addition to what Gary and Emrys have already posted, have you done a search of
the Registry, using the Find menu in the Registry Editor?

Click Start> Run, type regedit and click OK.
Click the Edit menu> Find, type in the box: Acrobat Assistant and check all the
'Look In' boxes. When ot fonds an entry, press F3 to search for the next entry,
until you find what registry entry contains the info you are looking for.
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http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
news:e2qMQH9tFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
> Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
> from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
> However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
> 5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat Assistant
> unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.
>
> I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and Run-) but
> the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing with HKLM
> and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.
>
> I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig startup
> tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0 and
> left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
> entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in the
> msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a HiJack
> This scan.
>
> I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google. Can
> someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab entry
> without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom entry.
> Where else in the registry could I look for this file?
> --
> a( : [|]=( DaffyD®
>
> Your fair-feathered friend
>
> How do you make a duck blind?
> Poke him in the eyes!
> Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo!
>
>
 
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"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message
news:e2qMQH9tFHA.1032@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
> Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
> from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
> However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Acrobat
> 5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat
Assistant
> unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.
>
> I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and
Run-) but
> the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing
with HKLM
> and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.
>
> I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig
startup
> tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0
and
> left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
> entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in
the
> msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a
HiJack
> This scan.
>
> I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google.
Can
> someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab
entry
> without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom
entry.
> Where else in the registry could I look for this file?
> --
> a( : [|]=( DaffyD®
>
> Your fair-feathered friend
>
> How do you make a duck blind?
> Poke him in the eyes!
> Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo! Woo Hoo!

You need to check the box in msconfig-startup otherwise it will not show
in the registry.

Regards,
Emrys Davies.
 
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You will find an indication of where an item starts from Msinfo32,
rather than Msconfig.

Items must be checked in Msconfig to show in Msinfo32.

Start-Run-msinfo32
Click the + beside Software Environment to expand.
Click Startup Programs
Ctrl+A to Select All, Ctrl+C to Copy.
Paste that information in your message (or just the relevant part if
you cannot determine the startup location)

....Alan
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http://dts-l.org/index.html

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:40:19 -0700, "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com>
wrote:

>I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
>Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
>from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
>However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
>5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat Assistant
>unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.
>
>I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and Run-) but
>the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing with HKLM
>and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
>HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.
>
>I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig startup
>tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0 and
>left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
>entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in the
>msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a HiJack
>This scan.
>
>I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google. Can
>someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab entry
>without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom entry.
>Where else in the registry could I look for this file?
 
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Per Gary's advice, I was able to track down the file location via msinfo32.
Thank you for pointing me to that as well.

"Alan Edwards" <edwards@southcom.com.au> wrote in message
news:e3pbi1dmmjkfb3vu09ujkb61grh9449gc4@4ax.com...
> You will find an indication of where an item starts from Msinfo32,
> rather than Msconfig.
>
> Items must be checked in Msconfig to show in Msinfo32.
>
> Start-Run-msinfo32
> Click the + beside Software Environment to expand.
> Click Startup Programs
> Ctrl+A to Select All, Ctrl+C to Copy.
> Paste that information in your message (or just the relevant part if
> you cannot determine the startup location)
>
> ...Alan
> --
> Alan Edwards, MS MVP Windows - Internet Explorer
> http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:40:19 -0700, "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm running Win98 SE. I installed Adobe Acrobat 5.0 but unchecked the
> >Acrobat Assistant (C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat
1.0\Distillr\Acrotray.exe)
> >from the startup group. It was unchecked on the msconfig startup tab.
> >However, the filepath in the Adobe folder is C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Acrobat
> >5.0Distillr\Acrotray.exe. I then uninstalled Adobe but the Acrobat
Assistant
> >unchecked entry was still in the msconfig startup tab.
> >
> >I checked HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run (and Run-)
but
> >the Adobe entry isn't listed in the right pane. Did the same thing with
HKLM
> >and checked all run keys but again no entry. Also checked
> >HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools and again nothing.
> >
> >I tried putting a check mark next to the Adobe box in the msconfig
startup
> >tab and rebooting but still no luck. I reinstalled Adobe Acrobat 5.0 and
> >left the Assistant in the startup group and there was still no registy
> >entry. I moved it out of the startup group so that it was unchecked in
the
> >msconfig startup tab and again, no registry. Also doesn't show on a
HiJack
> >This scan.
> >
> >I haven't found anything on this in the MSKB, Adobe KB, or on Google. Can
> >someone help me with this? How can there be a msconfig startup tab entry
> >without a corresponding registry entry? It's like this is a phantom
entry.
> >Where else in the registry could I look for this file?