HD DVD or Blue ray DVD

[paladin_yang]

Which is better?

 

[sctwinslow]

Not sure yet. Have not got to compare both on my 65" HD Toshiba.

 

[superbrett2000]

They both equally suck.

 

[mitch074]

HD DVD is layered after the DVD format, but on much higher density. Advantages: doesn't require as much investment to redesign production facilities.
Inconvenients: somewhat limited in its versatility, lower capacity (15 Gb per layer, max 6 layers on 2 faces - requires flipping the disc, 90 Gb max capacity).

Blu-Ray is a completely new technology.
Advantages: Higher storage capacity (25Gb on a single layer, able to stack as much as 8 layers on one disc without flipping it over, max 200 Gb capacity), redesigned from scratch for versatility.
Inconvenients: extensive redesigning of manufacturing plants, reading is somewhat slower than HDDVD.

 

[AshyN]

Whatever.. I will buy both.

 

[davidflet9]

the both have their advantages however i think bluray is the better simply because of the capacity, but very large firms are supporting each format, such as sony for bluray and m$ and hollywood support HDDVD so i dont see wither format dying out soon after they come to market in full swing

 

[AshyN]

And you know what?
HDDVD will be a winner here. However, BD will get into storage and wont loose out as well. But for Media - HDDVD will be superhit.

 

[davidflet9]

i agree with that

 

[davidflet9]

there is loads of copy portection on HD-DVD as afar as ive heard hence the reason m$ and hollywood support it, i have heard tale of a system that prevents copying build into the hardware and that dynamically updates itself from new movie disks and such as people find ways around it, dont really know much about blu-ray but if they want music, movies, games and stuff like that then they are going to need to have some fairly tough protection on it

 

[FITCamaro]

Blu-ray is going to fail. Why? In the end its going to come down to money. Blu-ray costs more to convert production to and make and those costs will be translated to the customer. Not only that but Blu-ray is slowing being beaten to death by product delays because of the fighting over standards. Then theres the fact that anything Sony does is copy protected to hell and probably won't even work in some of their own devices. With HD-DVD prices already at $30-35, people already aren't going to pay that, so they sure as hell aren't going to pay more for Blu-ray.

Personally I don't see why we need HD DVD or Blu-ray since standard DVDs look fine on HDTVs. Personally I'll wait probably 2-3 years probably until one format or the other finally wins. Personally I think its gay they can't just agree on one f*cking standard. Instead they'll try to force consumers to buy 2 different players because they didn't want to agree.

You morons out there who say, "I'll buy both" have fun. Exercise your digital cock and go waste your money on 1st gen crap that won't even have all the features of either format and won't work or be compatible in a year.

One guy was right though that probably Blu-ray will stick around a little while at least as a storage media because of its higher capacity. But in the end I think HD-DVD is going to win this one. I like the capacity of Blu-ray but the crap thats in it for copy protection turns me off.

 

[AshyN]

Blu-ray is going to fail. Why? In the end its going to come down to money. Blu-ray costs more to convert production to and make and those costs will be translated to the customer. Not only that but Blu-ray is slowing being beaten to death by product delays because of the fighting over standards. Then theres the fact that anything Sony does is copy protected to hell and probably won't even work in some of their own devices. With HD-DVD prices already at $30-35, people already aren't going to pay that, so they sure as hell aren't going to pay more for Blu-ray.

Personally I don't see why we need HD DVD or Blu-ray since standard DVDs look fine on HDTVs. Personally I'll wait probably 2-3 years probably until one format or the other finally wins. Personally I think its gay they can't just agree on one f*cking standard. Instead they'll try to force consumers to buy 2 different players because they didn't want to agree.

You morons out there who say, "I'll buy both" have fun. Exercise your digital **** and go waste your money on 1st gen crap that won't even have all the features of either format and won't work or be compatible in a year.

One guy was right though that probably Blu-ray will stick around a little while at least as a storage media because of its higher capacity. But in the end I think HD-DVD is going to win this one. I like the capacity of Blu-ray but the crap thats in it for copy protection turns me off.

I understand your imotions :lol: . But not your knowledge :twisted: .

 

[rippleyaliens]

they both suck,
the winner will be the one, who has a portable player, that doesnt look like a laptop.
When 1 format drops to the 15-20$, then that is a possible winner.
More importantly, when the tv's come out, and the players, come out, and you can run to wally world, and buy a combo, of the 2, (when a blonde idget ) can go home, plug it up, and it works like intended, then you have the winner

 

[xChaoSx]

no HDMI + L33t Copyright protection = Win.

I could see HD-DVD winning simply because of its name. People who know nothing about technology, will be..hmm a HD player..or some blue thing. I want HD!

 

[AshyN]

Where on earth did you get that money to buy this PC?(server)

 

[Topota_madre]

HD DVD, has attracted Microsoft, Sanyo, NEC and movie studios like New Line and Universal.

Blu-ray, has in its camp Apple, Panasonic, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Pioneer, Dell and movie studios like Sony, 20th Century Fox and Disney.

(Some companies, like HP, LG, Warner Brothers and Paramount, intend to create products for both formats.)

Porno?

Someone remember the war between VHS and BetaMax.

 

[mesarectifier]

Someone remember the war between VHS and BetaMax.

Betamax was superior to VHS, if I remember correctly, and seeing as Blue Ray is superior to HD-DVD on paper are you saying that Blue Ray is going to lose?

It's too soon to tell anyway. Give it a year or two - Beta vs VHS wasn't decided before they came out.

 

[waylander]

The porno industry, more rentals than all other types of movies combined, determined the winner between vhs/beta even though beta was superior. Same thing happened with standard DVD but much sooner in the cycle so that the competiters got out early and we never really saw them, I remember Panasonic had a competing disk but never got off the ground.

 

[AshyN]

Yeah you are right.

All these mechanical storage devices are destined to DOOOM.

The future belongs to solid state or holographic memory.

Its not only capacity.. Its the size, reliability and expansion thats literally infinite.

 

[Giraffe]

blue ray is better
hd-dvd is cheaper
simple

 

[mitch074]

Personally, I'll get the one that will allow playback of protected movies under Linux.

 

[Dan1317]

I read somewhere they made a laser that could read both. Anyone else remember anything about the article?

 

[mitch074]

It's not as much a 'laser' that can read both, but a matter of either:
- a single laser that can change its wavelenght depending on the media inserted (on top of simply changing it energy output)
- a dual laser
First option is technologically tricky but technically simpler to make (only one laser in the device), the second is simpler but more expensive (2 lasers on the same carrier).

 

[allred]

Blue Ray is better, but costs more. Personally, having spent £1200 on a Sony HD-TV want the best quality with the least compression from my films, so I would far rather pay £3 more for a Blue Ray film than a HDDVD.

 

[Arlaine]

Here's some information to help you guys out.

Here you will find a list of Blu-ray and HDDVD information companies showing who is backing what, and while its a little old, its still good info.
and here is the official Blu-ray list of supporting companies from their website.

Personally I prefer Blu-ray due to its storage capacity and the getting away from the DVD format.
But when all is said and done, the format that Philips backs is tough to fight, and this time around theyre siding with the betamax fiends at Sony, so itll be interesting to say the least. I imagine your average user who just wants to watch a movie on their tv/computer wont give two shits so long as they arent paying out the ass, whereas people who need/want the optical storage to backup data will either go Blu-ray, or wait for those shiny holographic discs

 

[Dan1317]

It's not as much a 'laser' that can read both, but a matter of either:
- a single laser that can change its wavelenght depending on the media inserted (on top of simply changing it energy output)
- a dual laser
First option is technologically tricky but technically simpler to make (only one laser in the device), the second is simpler but more expensive (2 lasers on the same carrier).

Ok while you are trying to act all smart read this http://www.hdbeat.com/2006/07/08/ricoh-laser-head-can-read-hd-dvd-and-blu-ray-discs/