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Anonymous
August 8, 2005 2:56:44 PM

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Hi All,

Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get really
intrigued.

So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
Expansion, and you're good to go?

I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on, say,
a 19" screen?

How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get used to
flying with it?

Regards,
John Ward

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Anonymous
August 8, 2005 2:56:45 PM

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Gee, I never though about that, John. The TrackIR stuff isn't too bad but
that $8,000 plasma 50 inch screen may be the problem along with the addition
to the new house....just kidding! It all sound pretty cool to me.

Mike
"John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:42f6adc7$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi All,
>
> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
> really intrigued.
>
> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>
> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on, say,
> a 19" screen?
>
> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get used to
> flying with it?
>
> Regards,
> John Ward
>
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 3:54:39 PM

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Hi mikepic,

Well, I now have a pretty good hardware setup, and, as I fly fighters
mainly, I noticed Downloaders' shots re moving your head outside the
cockpit, e,g, when taxiing....

Also, it looks a lot better than hitting knobs, buttons, switches, or
keyboard keys, to change your View, etc, and it also looks like you can Pan
your view pretty quickly to wherever you want...

Does this thing only work in the VC?

Co-incidentally, I'm going to be lucky enough to have a 4' Plasma screen
shortly...... :-)

Regards,
John Ward


"mikepic" <mikepic@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:iGyJe.248411$xm3.67145@attbi_s21...
> Gee, I never though about that, John. The TrackIR stuff isn't too bad but
> that $8,000 plasma 50 inch screen may be the problem along with the
> addition to the new house....just kidding! It all sound pretty cool to
> me.
>
> Mike
> "John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:42f6adc7$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
>> really intrigued.
>>
>> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
>> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>>
>> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on,
>> say, a 19" screen?
>>
>> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get used
>> to flying with it?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ward
>>
>
>
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August 8, 2005 3:54:40 PM

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"John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:42f6bb5b$0$22557$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi mikepic,
>
> Well, I now have a pretty good hardware setup, and, as I fly fighters
> mainly, I noticed Downloaders' shots re moving your head outside the
> cockpit, e,g, when taxiing....
>
> Also, it looks a lot better than hitting knobs, buttons, switches, or
> keyboard keys, to change your View, etc, and it also looks like you can
> Pan your view pretty quickly to wherever you want...
>
> Does this thing only work in the VC?
>
> Co-incidentally, I'm going to be lucky enough to have a 4' Plasma
> screen shortly...... :-)
>
> Regards,
> John Ward
>
>
> "mikepic" <mikepic@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:iGyJe.248411$xm3.67145@attbi_s21...
>> Gee, I never though about that, John. The TrackIR stuff isn't too bad
>> but that $8,000 plasma 50 inch screen may be the problem along with the
>> addition to the new house....just kidding! It all sound pretty cool to
>> me.
>>
>> Mike
>> "John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:42f6adc7$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
>>> really intrigued.
>>>
>>> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
>>> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>>>
>>> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on,
>>> say, a 19" screen?
>>>
>>> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get used
>>> to flying with it?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ward
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

A four footer ought to do well! I dunno if the system only works in VC. I
would sure like to try the thing out.
August 8, 2005 3:54:40 PM

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"John Ward"
> it also looks like you can Pan
> your view pretty quickly to wherever you want...

The TrackIR looks really cool, but if you don't want to spend the money, use
ActiveCamera instead.

I know you have a trackball. ActiveCamera allows TrackIR type movements
(not the expansion pack) on a trackball or mouse.

I just rest my hand on the trackball and look where ever I want in
real-time. In practice... it works very well.

Dallas
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 3:54:41 PM

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I have it, love it and have pretty much stopped flying the sims that won't
use it (and with the latest revisions to FA-18 and Falcon 4.0, there ain't
much that doesn't work with it.) MSFS acts like it was designed for it.

Good drop on the price, too. I say run, not walk, to get your wallet and
order it. No kidding... the first words out of my mouth were "this changes
everything"...


"mikepic" <mikepic@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:E1zJe.248436$xm3.29211@attbi_s21...
>
> "John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:42f6bb5b$0$22557$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Hi mikepic,
>>
>> Well, I now have a pretty good hardware setup, and, as I fly fighters
>> mainly, I noticed Downloaders' shots re moving your head outside the
>> cockpit, e,g, when taxiing....
>>
>> Also, it looks a lot better than hitting knobs, buttons, switches, or
>> keyboard keys, to change your View, etc, and it also looks like you can
>> Pan your view pretty quickly to wherever you want...
>>
>> Does this thing only work in the VC?
>>
>> Co-incidentally, I'm going to be lucky enough to have a 4' Plasma
>> screen shortly...... :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ward
>>
>>
>> "mikepic" <mikepic@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> news:iGyJe.248411$xm3.67145@attbi_s21...
>>> Gee, I never though about that, John. The TrackIR stuff isn't too bad
>>> but that $8,000 plasma 50 inch screen may be the problem along with the
>>> addition to the new house....just kidding! It all sound pretty cool to
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> "John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:42f6adc7$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
>>>> really intrigued.
>>>>
>>>> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
>>>> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>>>>
>>>> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on,
>>>> say, a 19" screen?
>>>>
>>>> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get used
>>>> to flying with it?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ward
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> A four footer ought to do well! I dunno if the system only works in VC.
> I would sure like to try the thing out.
>
>
August 8, 2005 3:54:42 PM

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Jay Williams wrote:

> I have it, love it and have pretty much stopped flying the sims that won't
> use it (and with the latest revisions to FA-18 and Falcon 4.0, there ain't
> much that doesn't work with it.) MSFS acts like it was designed for it.
>
> Good drop on the price, too. I say run, not walk, to get your wallet and
> order it. No kidding... the first words out of my mouth were "this changes
> everything"...


I too have hangered all the aircraft that don't have a decent VC Panel.
I already posted the web page where I'm listing the aircraft I really
like flying the VC. Unfortunately the Aztec doesn't have a VC panel but
I'm starting to like flying the classics. I actually have several more
aircraft waiting to get listed on the web page but I've been busy with
other things and am behind. :) 

I would have to check but I purchased the TrackIR 3 Pro and the Vector
Expansion clip from the TrackIR website and there were some discounts
which should be still in effect.

I bought the whole kit to use on the eMagin Z800 VR Visor I ordered. I'm
hoping I will get totally lost into the flight sim. If I don't, I'll
lie to Gabriella since the Visor was $900.00. :) 

--

boB,
SAG 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 3:54:43 PM

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The Aeroworx B-200 King Air works great with the Track IR


Bob



On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 03:39:56 GMT, boB <akita_77REMOVECAPS@yahoo.Xcom>
wrote:

>Jay Williams wrote:
>
>> I have it, love it and have pretty much stopped flying the sims that won't
>> use it (and with the latest revisions to FA-18 and Falcon 4.0, there ain't
>> much that doesn't work with it.) MSFS acts like it was designed for it.
>>
>> Good drop on the price, too. I say run, not walk, to get your wallet and
>> order it. No kidding... the first words out of my mouth were "this changes
>> everything"...
>
>
>I too have hangered all the aircraft that don't have a decent VC Panel.
> I already posted the web page where I'm listing the aircraft I really
>like flying the VC. Unfortunately the Aztec doesn't have a VC panel but
>I'm starting to like flying the classics. I actually have several more
>aircraft waiting to get listed on the web page but I've been busy with
>other things and am behind. :) 
>
>I would have to check but I purchased the TrackIR 3 Pro and the Vector
>Expansion clip from the TrackIR website and there were some discounts
>which should be still in effect.
>
>I bought the whole kit to use on the eMagin Z800 VR Visor I ordered. I'm
>hoping I will get totally lost into the flight sim. If I don't, I'll
>lie to Gabriella since the Visor was $900.00. :) 
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 5:05:30 PM

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"boB" <akita_77REMOVECAPS@yahoo.Xcom> wrote in message
news:guAJe.109353$0f.71125@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Jay Williams wrote:
>
>> I have it, love it and have pretty much stopped flying the sims that
>> won't use it (and with the latest revisions to FA-18 and Falcon 4.0,
>> there ain't much that doesn't work with it.) MSFS acts like it was
>> designed for it.
>>
>> Good drop on the price, too. I say run, not walk, to get your wallet and
>> order it. No kidding... the first words out of my mouth were "this
>> changes everything"...
>
>
> I too have hangered all the aircraft that don't have a decent VC Panel. I
> already posted the web page where I'm listing the aircraft I really like
> flying the VC. Unfortunately the Aztec doesn't have a VC panel but I'm
> starting to like flying the classics. I actually have several more
> aircraft waiting to get listed on the web page but I've been busy with
> other things and am behind. :) 
>
> I would have to check but I purchased the TrackIR 3 Pro and the Vector
> Expansion clip from the TrackIR website and there were some discounts
> which should be still in effect.
>
> I bought the whole kit to use on the eMagin Z800 VR Visor I ordered. I'm
> hoping I will get totally lost into the flight sim. If I don't, I'll lie
> to Gabriella since the Visor was $900.00. :) 
>
> --
>
> boB,
> SAG 70
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)

$900? You can count on us to come up with some good alibis for ya :) 

We addicts have got to stick together!
Mike
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 5:09:30 PM

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Hmm, that soun like a pretty good idea too. Better make a trip to Best Buy
today
Mike
"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
news:qdCJe.2637$Wi6.1219@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "John Ward"
>> it also looks like you can Pan
>> your view pretty quickly to wherever you want...
>
> The TrackIR looks really cool, but if you don't want to spend the money,
> use
> ActiveCamera instead.
>
> I know you have a trackball. ActiveCamera allows TrackIR type movements
> (not the expansion pack) on a trackball or mouse.
>
> I just rest my hand on the trackball and look where ever I want in
> real-time. In practice... it works very well.
>
> Dallas
>
>
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 5:17:28 PM

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O.K., O.K., damn you, Williams, I'm strongly suspecting that I'm going to be
shelling out shortly.

But, how hard is it to get it operating optimally - Downloader Bob seems to
think it's a little different/twitchy, so I guess there are a few issues
with it?

Regards,
John Ward
"Jay Williams" <Voodoo141@buggeroffspammercox.net> wrote in message
news:aKzJe.2768$y%5.1987@lakeread06...
>I have it, love it and have pretty much stopped flying the sims that won't
>use it (and with the latest revisions to FA-18 and Falcon 4.0, there ain't
>much that doesn't work with it.) MSFS acts like it was designed for it.
>
> Good drop on the price, too. I say run, not walk, to get your wallet and
> order it. No kidding... the first words out of my mouth were "this
> changes everything"...
>
>
> "mikepic" <mikepic@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:E1zJe.248436$xm3.29211@attbi_s21...
>>
>> "John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:42f6bb5b$0$22557$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> Hi mikepic,
>>>
>>> Well, I now have a pretty good hardware setup, and, as I fly fighters
>>> mainly, I noticed Downloaders' shots re moving your head outside the
>>> cockpit, e,g, when taxiing....
>>>
>>> Also, it looks a lot better than hitting knobs, buttons, switches, or
>>> keyboard keys, to change your View, etc, and it also looks like you can
>>> Pan your view pretty quickly to wherever you want...
>>>
>>> Does this thing only work in the VC?
>>>
>>> Co-incidentally, I'm going to be lucky enough to have a 4' Plasma
>>> screen shortly...... :-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ward
>>>
>>>
>>> "mikepic" <mikepic@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>> news:iGyJe.248411$xm3.67145@attbi_s21...
>>>> Gee, I never though about that, John. The TrackIR stuff isn't too bad
>>>> but that $8,000 plasma 50 inch screen may be the problem along with the
>>>> addition to the new house....just kidding! It all sound pretty cool to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> "John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:42f6adc7$0$21701$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
>>>>> really intrigued.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
>>>>> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on,
>>>>> say, a 19" screen?
>>>>>
>>>>> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get
>>>>> used to flying with it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John Ward
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A four footer ought to do well! I dunno if the system only works in VC.
>> I would sure like to try the thing out.
>>
>>
>
>
August 8, 2005 5:17:29 PM

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John Ward wrote:

> O.K., O.K., damn you, Williams, I'm strongly suspecting that I'm going to be
> shelling out shortly.
>
> But, how hard is it to get it operating optimally - Downloader Bob seems to
> think it's a little different/twitchy, so I guess there are a few issues
> with it?
>
> Regards,
> John Ward

Nope, no real issues.. I just have to learn to keep a correct posture
which actually helps my back. (At least I hope it does :)  )

I have a Gateway P4 2.66, 512 rimm, 200G and 250G hard drives and where
I usually don't use Auto-Start to get rid of the remaining programs
using up resources and I get usable frame rates with the sliders at
medium high.

It really does change things for the better in my humble opinion. :) 

--

boB,
SAG 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 5:17:30 PM

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"boB" <akita_77REMOVECAPS@yahoo.Xcom> wrote in message
news:52CJe.136248$X76.17884@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> John Ward wrote:
>
>> O.K., O.K., damn you, Williams, I'm strongly suspecting that I'm going to
>> be shelling out shortly.
>>
>> But, how hard is it to get it operating optimally - Downloader Bob seems
>> to think it's a little different/twitchy, so I guess there are a few
>> issues with it?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ward
>
> Nope, no real issues.. I just have to learn to keep a correct posture
> which actually helps my back. (At least I hope it does :)  )
>
> I have a Gateway P4 2.66, 512 rimm, 200G and 250G hard drives and where I
> usually don't use Auto-Start to get rid of the remaining programs using up
> resources and I get usable frame rates with the sliders at medium high.
>
> It really does change things for the better in my humble opinion. :) 
>
> --
>
> boB,
> SAG 70
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)


Ahhh... I can see back and neck brace sales are going to zoom. The
orthopedic industry wholeheatedly endorses the use of TrackIR :) .....Just
kidding.
Mike
Anonymous
August 8, 2005 11:54:27 PM

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John Ward wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
> really intrigued.
>
> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>
> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on,
> say, a 19" screen?
>
> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get
> used to flying with it?
>
> Regards,
> John Ward


It is well worth every penny imho.

I reluctantly bought the TiR 3 Pro several months ago, shortly before the
Vector expansion was announced. I had bought Pacific Fighters shortly after
it came out, and had a coupon for 30 bucks off that came with it , if I
remember correctly.

My main hesitation, was I get motion sickness fairly easy. For this reason,
I really can't play fps games with any frequency, I get sick to my stomach
within 20 minutes of playing. Flight sims, and racing sims, have never
bothered me. I was worried that the TiR3 Pro would cause me motion sickness.

I was pleased to discover it did not bother me at all. Getting acclamated to
it, at least for me, took very little time. Within the hour, I was flying
using it, and thinking it was the best thing since sliced bread - and I
still feel that way. I added the Vector expansion a few months ago, and love
it for sims that support it. For those that don't, it does seem to make it
more stable around center for me.

I personally found the included flight sim profile to be adequate for what I
do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to fine tune it to my
liking.

Now, I could not imagine flying a flight sim without it!
Plus, it freed up all those programmable buttons on my pov hat switch on my
Cougar for other things which was an added bonus.





--
Don Burnette
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 10:52:41 AM

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Hi boB,

I vaguely recall some brief discussion about being able to somehow link
something in that equated to a mouse click.

I can't remember whether it related to TrackIR, or VoiceBuddy, though.

Does TrackIR have anything like that, and does it work on 2D cockpits>

Regards,
John Ward
"boB" <akita_77REMOVECAPS@yahoo.Xcom> wrote in message
news:52CJe.136248$X76.17884@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> John Ward wrote:
>
>> O.K., O.K., damn you, Williams, I'm strongly suspecting that I'm going to
>> be shelling out shortly.
>>
>> But, how hard is it to get it operating optimally - Downloader Bob seems
>> to think it's a little different/twitchy, so I guess there are a few
>> issues with it?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ward
>
> Nope, no real issues.. I just have to learn to keep a correct posture
> which actually helps my back. (At least I hope it does :)  )
>
> I have a Gateway P4 2.66, 512 rimm, 200G and 250G hard drives and where I
> usually don't use Auto-Start to get rid of the remaining programs using up
> resources and I get usable frame rates with the sliders at medium high.
>
> It really does change things for the better in my humble opinion. :) 
>
> --
>
> boB,
> SAG 70
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
August 9, 2005 10:52:42 AM

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John Ward wrote:

> Hi boB,
>
> I vaguely recall some brief discussion about being able to somehow link
> something in that equated to a mouse click.
>
> I can't remember whether it related to TrackIR, or VoiceBuddy, though.
>
> Does TrackIR have anything like that, and does it work on 2D cockpits>
>
> Regards,
> John Ward


I think Don would be able to tell us that and I forget if you can get
the 2D panel to pan.

I have not yet tried all the options but last night I got stuck in
something named "Smartnav3" which seems to be a hands free mouse
emulator. Here is what it said about it.

==============================================
NaturalPoint presents the SmartNAV hands free mouse. The NaturalPoint
SmartNAV is the perfect hands free ergonomic mouse for people with
carpal tunnel, RSI and other special needs. Increase productivity by
simply moving your head to control your computer, with our ergonomic
mouse alternatives.
===============================================

Don, can you send me the profiles you tweaked. I've been experimenting
with the curve and other edit functions but am not doing well with it yet.

akita_77 xxxxx at xxxxxxx yahoo dot com



--

boB,
SAG 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
August 9, 2005 10:52:42 AM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Hey John. Here it is again :) 


John Ward wrote:

> Hi boB,
>
> I vaguely recall some brief discussion about being able to somehow link
> something in that equated to a mouse click.
>
> I can't remember whether it related to TrackIR, or VoiceBuddy, though.
>
> Does TrackIR have anything like that, and does it work on 2D cockpits>
>
> Regards,
> John Ward


I think Don would be able to tell us that and I forget if you can get
the 2D panel to pan.

I have not yet tried all the options but last night I got stuck in
something named "Smartnav3" which seems to be a hands free mouse
emulator. Here is what it said about it.

==============================================
NaturalPoint presents the SmartNAV hands free mouse. The NaturalPoint
SmartNAV is the perfect hands free ergonomic mouse for people with
carpal tunnel, RSI and other special needs. Increase productivity by
simply moving your head to control your computer, with our ergonomic
mouse alternatives.
===============================================

Don, can you send me the profiles you tweaked. I've been experimenting
with the curve and other edit functions but am not doing well with it yet.

akita_77 xxxxx at xxxxxxx yahoo dot com



--

boB,
SAG 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
August 9, 2005 10:52:43 AM

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"boB"
> SmartNAV is the perfect hands free ergonomic mouse for people with
> carpal tunnel,

Oh, that's great... now we're going to have a bunch of people running
around with carpal tunnel of the neck.

:-)

Dallas
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 4:06:07 PM

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Hi Don Burnette,

Thanks for that, mate.

"I personally found the included flight sim profile to be adequate for
what I do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to fine tune it
to my liking."

That's handy to know, I didn't know it had one. Do you get the full 6DOF
in 2D cockpits?

Rats (wallet speaking) - seems to be the way to go, then. :-)

Regards,
John Ward



"Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> John Ward wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
>> really intrigued.
>>
>> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
>> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>>
>> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on,
>> say, a 19" screen?
>>
>> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get
>> used to flying with it?
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ward
>
>
> It is well worth every penny imho.
>
> I reluctantly bought the TiR 3 Pro several months ago, shortly before the
> Vector expansion was announced. I had bought Pacific Fighters shortly
> after it came out, and had a coupon for 30 bucks off that came with it ,
> if I remember correctly.
>
> My main hesitation, was I get motion sickness fairly easy. For this
> reason, I really can't play fps games with any frequency, I get sick to my
> stomach within 20 minutes of playing. Flight sims, and racing sims, have
> never bothered me. I was worried that the TiR3 Pro would cause me motion
> sickness.
>
> I was pleased to discover it did not bother me at all. Getting acclamated
> to it, at least for me, took very little time. Within the hour, I was
> flying using it, and thinking it was the best thing since sliced bread -
> and I still feel that way. I added the Vector expansion a few months ago,
> and love it for sims that support it. For those that don't, it does seem
> to make it more stable around center for me.
>
> I personally found the included flight sim profile to be adequate for what
> I do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to fine tune it to
> my liking.
>
> Now, I could not imagine flying a flight sim without it!
> Plus, it freed up all those programmable buttons on my pov hat switch on
> my Cougar for other things which was an added bonus.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Don Burnette
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 5:17:24 PM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Hey boB,

I just had a momentary blip with my newsreader - I had to re-post
something I thought I'd posted, and, during the same blip, I thought I saw a
reply from you here?

If you did, would you be able to post it again?

Sorry about that.

Regards,
John Ward
"John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:42f80f8b$0$19501$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi Don Burnette,
>
> Thanks for that, mate.
>
> "I personally found the included flight sim profile to be adequate for
> what I do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to fine tune
> it to my liking."
>
> That's handy to know, I didn't know it had one. Do you get the full
> 6DOF in 2D cockpits?
>
> Rats (wallet speaking) - seems to be the way to go, then. :-)
>
> Regards,
> John Ward
>
>
>
> "Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6padnR12TI4iY2rfRVn-gw@giganews.com...
>> John Ward wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
>>> really intrigued.
>>>
>>> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
>>> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>>>
>>> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like on,
>>> say, a 19" screen?
>>>
>>> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get
>>> used to flying with it?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ward
>>
>>
>> It is well worth every penny imho.
>>
>> I reluctantly bought the TiR 3 Pro several months ago, shortly before the
>> Vector expansion was announced. I had bought Pacific Fighters shortly
>> after it came out, and had a coupon for 30 bucks off that came with it ,
>> if I remember correctly.
>>
>> My main hesitation, was I get motion sickness fairly easy. For this
>> reason, I really can't play fps games with any frequency, I get sick to
>> my stomach within 20 minutes of playing. Flight sims, and racing sims,
>> have never bothered me. I was worried that the TiR3 Pro would cause me
>> motion sickness.
>>
>> I was pleased to discover it did not bother me at all. Getting acclamated
>> to it, at least for me, took very little time. Within the hour, I was
>> flying using it, and thinking it was the best thing since sliced bread -
>> and I still feel that way. I added the Vector expansion a few months ago,
>> and love it for sims that support it. For those that don't, it does seem
>> to make it more stable around center for me.
>>
>> I personally found the included flight sim profile to be adequate for
>> what I do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to fine tune
>> it to my liking.
>>
>> Now, I could not imagine flying a flight sim without it!
>> Plus, it freed up all those programmable buttons on my pov hat switch on
>> my Cougar for other things which was an added bonus.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don Burnette
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 5:48:31 PM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Hi boB,

Hey, thanks, mate - I think that was it!

I'd be interested in those profiles from Don, too, if it's O.K. with
him, of course.

Should I Google for Smartnav3, or is it part of the TrackIR deal?

Regards,
John Ward
"Bob" <akita@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xwVJe.142521$X76.40975@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Hey John. Here it is again :) 
>
>
> John Ward wrote:
>
>> Hi boB,
>>
>> I vaguely recall some brief discussion about being able to somehow
>> link something in that equated to a mouse click.
>>
>> I can't remember whether it related to TrackIR, or VoiceBuddy,
>> though.
>>
>> Does TrackIR have anything like that, and does it work on 2D
>> cockpits>
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ward
>
>
> I think Don would be able to tell us that and I forget if you can get
> the 2D panel to pan.
>
> I have not yet tried all the options but last night I got stuck in
> something named "Smartnav3" which seems to be a hands free mouse
> emulator. Here is what it said about it.
>
> ==============================================
> NaturalPoint presents the SmartNAV hands free mouse. The NaturalPoint
> SmartNAV is the perfect hands free ergonomic mouse for people with
> carpal tunnel, RSI and other special needs. Increase productivity by
> simply moving your head to control your computer, with our ergonomic
> mouse alternatives.
> ===============================================
>
> Don, can you send me the profiles you tweaked. I've been experimenting
> with the curve and other edit functions but am not doing well with it yet.
>
> akita_77 xxxxx at xxxxxxx yahoo dot com
>
>
>
> --
>
> boB,
> SAG 70
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
>
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 10:22:03 PM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

No problem, I think you would really like it. Matter of fact, I don't think
I know of anyone that has gotten one that did not like it.

It's been a little while since I ran FS2004, if memory serves it only works
in 3d view, I can test it to be sure though. Tonight my daughter took off to
spend some time with me, we're going to watch a movie and order a pizza, so
I won't have time to mess around any with it tonight..

I would be glad to share my custom profiles with you and Bob as well, can I
post them here or would it be better to email them to y'all? They are not
very large, less than 4kb each in size, I have two, one for IL2 /FB/AEP/PF,
and one for FS2004.

Like I said, they are only slightly tweaked versions of the included flight
sim profile, I like a little more dead zone and exponential curve it mine,
to make very slight head movements to equal very little movement in Track
IR. It really is easy to adjust and try different settings, ultimately
you'll want to tweak it to your liking...


Don Burnette








John Ward wrote:
> Hi Don Burnette,
>
> Thanks for that, mate.
>
> "I personally found the included flight sim profile to be adequate
> for what I do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to
> fine tune it to my liking."
>
> That's handy to know, I didn't know it had one. Do you get the
> full 6DOF in 2D cockpits?
>
> Rats (wallet speaking) - seems to be the way to go, then. :-)
>
> Regards,
> John Ward
>
>
>
> "Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6padnR12TI4iY2rfRVn-gw@giganews.com...
>> John Ward wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
>>> really intrigued.
>>>
>>> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
>>> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>>>
>>> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like
>>> on, say, a 19" screen?
>>>
>>> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get
>>> used to flying with it?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ward
>>
>>
>> It is well worth every penny imho.
>>
>> I reluctantly bought the TiR 3 Pro several months ago, shortly
>> before the Vector expansion was announced. I had bought Pacific
>> Fighters shortly after it came out, and had a coupon for 30 bucks
>> off that came with it , if I remember correctly.
>>
>> My main hesitation, was I get motion sickness fairly easy. For this
>> reason, I really can't play fps games with any frequency, I get sick
>> to my stomach within 20 minutes of playing. Flight sims, and racing
>> sims, have never bothered me. I was worried that the TiR3 Pro would
>> cause me motion sickness.
>>
>> I was pleased to discover it did not bother me at all. Getting
>> acclamated to it, at least for me, took very little time. Within the
>> hour, I was flying using it, and thinking it was the best thing
>> since sliced bread - and I still feel that way. I added the Vector
>> expansion a few months ago, and love it for sims that support it.
>> For those that don't, it does seem to make it more stable around
>> center for me. I personally found the included flight sim profile to be
>> adequate
>> for what I do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to
>> fine tune it to my liking.
>>
>> Now, I could not imagine flying a flight sim without it!
>> Plus, it freed up all those programmable buttons on my pov hat
>> switch on my Cougar for other things which was an added bonus.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don Burnette
Anonymous
August 9, 2005 11:19:26 PM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

In MSFS 2004, I just switch to the virtual cockpit and use the mouse to
click and my head to change views. Easy as hell. holding your head still
becomes intuitive. The only sim I've had any trouble with that has been
Janes FA-18, which wasn't designed with TrackIr in mind. MSFS was. No
kidding, John. You'll email me afterwards and offer to buy me a case of
whatever I drink.

I wouldn't consider flying MSFS without it now...

"boB" <akita_77REMOVECAPS@yahoo.Xcom> wrote in message
news:p AUJe.97211$gL1.83355@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> John Ward wrote:
>
>> Hi boB,
>>
>> I vaguely recall some brief discussion about being able to somehow
>> link something in that equated to a mouse click.
>>
>> I can't remember whether it related to TrackIR, or VoiceBuddy,
>> though.
>>
>> Does TrackIR have anything like that, and does it work on 2D
>> cockpits>
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ward
>
>
> I think Don would be able to tell us that and I forget if you can get the
> 2D panel to pan.
>
> I have not yet tried all the options but last night I got stuck in
> something named "Smartnav3" which seems to be a hands free mouse emulator.
> Here is what it said about it.
>
> ==============================================
> NaturalPoint presents the SmartNAV hands free mouse. The NaturalPoint
> SmartNAV is the perfect hands free ergonomic mouse for people with carpal
> tunnel, RSI and other special needs. Increase productivity by simply
> moving your head to control your computer, with our ergonomic mouse
> alternatives.
> ===============================================
>
> Don, can you send me the profiles you tweaked. I've been experimenting
> with the curve and other edit functions but am not doing well with it yet.
>
> akita_77 xxxxx at xxxxxxx yahoo dot com
>
>
>
> --
>
> boB,
> SAG 70
>
> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
August 10, 2005 6:18:42 AM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Don Burnette wrote:

>
> I would be glad to share my custom profiles with you and Bob as well, can I
> post them here or would it be better to email them to y'all? They are not
> very large, less than 4kb each in size, I have two, one for IL2 /FB/AEP/PF,
> and one for FS2004.
>
> Like I said, they are only slightly tweaked versions of the included flight
> sim profile, I like a little more dead zone and exponential curve it mine,
> to make very slight head movements to equal very little movement in Track
> IR. It really is easy to adjust and try different settings, ultimately
> you'll want to tweak it to your liking...
>
>
> Don Burnette
>

email would be good for me. I would like to see what you use and then
work from there.

Thanks

akita_77 at yahoo dot com

--

boB,
SAG 70

U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
Anonymous
August 11, 2005 10:11:08 AM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Hi Jay Williams,

O.K., O.K. - so, what do you drink? :-))

Please don't tell me its Johnny Walker Black Label! :-)

Regards,
John ward
"Jay Williams" <Voodoo141@buggeroffspammercox.net> wrote in message
news:p KbKe.9$bh6.0@lakeread06...
> In MSFS 2004, I just switch to the virtual cockpit and use the mouse to
> click and my head to change views. Easy as hell. holding your head still
> becomes intuitive. The only sim I've had any trouble with that has been
> Janes FA-18, which wasn't designed with TrackIr in mind. MSFS was. No
> kidding, John. You'll email me afterwards and offer to buy me a case of
> whatever I drink.
>
> I wouldn't consider flying MSFS without it now...
>
> "boB" <akita_77REMOVECAPS@yahoo.Xcom> wrote in message
> news:p AUJe.97211$gL1.83355@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> John Ward wrote:
>>
>>> Hi boB,
>>>
>>> I vaguely recall some brief discussion about being able to somehow
>>> link something in that equated to a mouse click.
>>>
>>> I can't remember whether it related to TrackIR, or VoiceBuddy,
>>> though.
>>>
>>> Does TrackIR have anything like that, and does it work on 2D
>>> cockpits>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ward
>>
>>
>> I think Don would be able to tell us that and I forget if you can get the
>> 2D panel to pan.
>>
>> I have not yet tried all the options but last night I got stuck in
>> something named "Smartnav3" which seems to be a hands free mouse
>> emulator. Here is what it said about it.
>>
>> ==============================================
>> NaturalPoint presents the SmartNAV hands free mouse. The NaturalPoint
>> SmartNAV is the perfect hands free ergonomic mouse for people with carpal
>> tunnel, RSI and other special needs. Increase productivity by simply
>> moving your head to control your computer, with our ergonomic mouse
>> alternatives.
>> ===============================================
>>
>> Don, can you send me the profiles you tweaked. I've been experimenting
>> with the curve and other edit functions but am not doing well with it
>> yet.
>>
>> akita_77 xxxxx at xxxxxxx yahoo dot com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> boB,
>> SAG 70
>>
>> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
>> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
>
>
Anonymous
August 11, 2005 10:14:31 AM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Hi Don Burnette,

Thanks for that - email would be great for me. Much appreciated.

Hope the pizza's not too spicy! :-)

Regards,
John Ward
"Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:muidnasSa-8Fp2TfRVn-sg@giganews.com...
> No problem, I think you would really like it. Matter of fact, I don't
> think I know of anyone that has gotten one that did not like it.
>
> It's been a little while since I ran FS2004, if memory serves it only
> works in 3d view, I can test it to be sure though. Tonight my daughter
> took off to spend some time with me, we're going to watch a movie and
> order a pizza, so I won't have time to mess around any with it tonight..
>
> I would be glad to share my custom profiles with you and Bob as well, can
> I post them here or would it be better to email them to y'all? They are
> not very large, less than 4kb each in size, I have two, one for IL2
> /FB/AEP/PF, and one for FS2004.
>
> Like I said, they are only slightly tweaked versions of the included
> flight sim profile, I like a little more dead zone and exponential curve
> it mine, to make very slight head movements to equal very little movement
> in Track IR. It really is easy to adjust and try different settings,
> ultimately you'll want to tweak it to your liking...
>
>
> Don Burnette
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John Ward wrote:
>> Hi Don Burnette,
>>
>> Thanks for that, mate.
>>
>> "I personally found the included flight sim profile to be adequate
>> for what I do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to
>> fine tune it to my liking."
>>
>> That's handy to know, I didn't know it had one. Do you get the
>> full 6DOF in 2D cockpits?
>>
>> Rats (wallet speaking) - seems to be the way to go, then. :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ward
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:6padnR12TI4iY2rfRVn-gw@giganews.com...
>>> John Ward wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Having just seen the Demo' video of this, I'm now starting to get
>>>> really intrigued.
>>>>
>>>> So it's $US130 for TrackIR 3 Pro, another $US35 for the Vector
>>>> Expansion, and you're good to go?
>>>>
>>>> I notice they had a huge screen for the Demo' - what's it like
>>>> on, say, a 19" screen?
>>>>
>>>> How twitchy/difficult is it to get it working properly, and get
>>>> used to flying with it?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ward
>>>
>>>
>>> It is well worth every penny imho.
>>>
>>> I reluctantly bought the TiR 3 Pro several months ago, shortly
>>> before the Vector expansion was announced. I had bought Pacific
>>> Fighters shortly after it came out, and had a coupon for 30 bucks
>>> off that came with it , if I remember correctly.
>>>
>>> My main hesitation, was I get motion sickness fairly easy. For this
>>> reason, I really can't play fps games with any frequency, I get sick
>>> to my stomach within 20 minutes of playing. Flight sims, and racing
>>> sims, have never bothered me. I was worried that the TiR3 Pro would
>>> cause me motion sickness.
>>>
>>> I was pleased to discover it did not bother me at all. Getting
>>> acclamated to it, at least for me, took very little time. Within the
>>> hour, I was flying using it, and thinking it was the best thing
>>> since sliced bread - and I still feel that way. I added the Vector
>>> expansion a few months ago, and love it for sims that support it.
>>> For those that don't, it does seem to make it more stable around
>>> center for me. I personally found the included flight sim profile to be
>>> adequate
>>> for what I do, I did play with the deadzone and curves a little to
>>> fine tune it to my liking.
>>>
>>> Now, I could not imagine flying a flight sim without it!
>>> Plus, it freed up all those programmable buttons on my pov hat
>>> switch on my Cougar for other things which was an added bonus.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don Burnette
>
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 22, 2005 2:50:21 AM

Archived from groups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim (More info?)

Try it first...

"John Ward" <johnrmward@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:42fa5f56$0$25524$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Hi Jay Williams,
>
> O.K., O.K. - so, what do you drink? :-))
>
> Please don't tell me its Johnny Walker Black Label! :-)
>
> Regards,
> John ward
> "Jay Williams" <Voodoo141@buggeroffspammercox.net> wrote in message
> news:p KbKe.9$bh6.0@lakeread06...
>> In MSFS 2004, I just switch to the virtual cockpit and use the mouse to
>> click and my head to change views. Easy as hell. holding your head
>> still becomes intuitive. The only sim I've had any trouble with that has
>> been Janes FA-18, which wasn't designed with TrackIr in mind. MSFS was.
>> No kidding, John. You'll email me afterwards and offer to buy me a case
>> of whatever I drink.
>>
>> I wouldn't consider flying MSFS without it now...
>>
>> "boB" <akita_77REMOVECAPS@yahoo.Xcom> wrote in message
>> news:p AUJe.97211$gL1.83355@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>>> John Ward wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi boB,
>>>>
>>>> I vaguely recall some brief discussion about being able to somehow
>>>> link something in that equated to a mouse click.
>>>>
>>>> I can't remember whether it related to TrackIR, or VoiceBuddy,
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> Does TrackIR have anything like that, and does it work on 2D
>>>> cockpits>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ward
>>>
>>>
>>> I think Don would be able to tell us that and I forget if you can get
>>> the 2D panel to pan.
>>>
>>> I have not yet tried all the options but last night I got stuck in
>>> something named "Smartnav3" which seems to be a hands free mouse
>>> emulator. Here is what it said about it.
>>>
>>> ==============================================
>>> NaturalPoint presents the SmartNAV hands free mouse. The NaturalPoint
>>> SmartNAV is the perfect hands free ergonomic mouse for people with
>>> carpal tunnel, RSI and other special needs. Increase productivity by
>>> simply moving your head to control your computer, with our ergonomic
>>> mouse alternatives.
>>> ===============================================
>>>
>>> Don, can you send me the profiles you tweaked. I've been experimenting
>>> with the curve and other edit functions but am not doing well with it
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> akita_77 xxxxx at xxxxxxx yahoo dot com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> boB,
>>> SAG 70
>>>
>>> U.S. Army Aviation (retired)
>>> Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK)
>>
>>
>
>
!