Realplayer and Cingular's GPRS network

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Has anyone got Realplayer to work on Cingular's GPRS network? Best I can
tell, Cingular doesn't pass UDP traffic. To make matters worse, nobody
in their customer service seems to know what a proxy is much less the
settings for Realplayer. I'm using a Nokia 6620 that came with
Realplayer , but as with all my phones, I have to enter all the settings
(usually not a problem). I tried using the wap proxy, and even the
standard Real Audio/RTSP proxy ports with no success. I even configured
my own RTSP proxy server. I thought I had it solved then, but when it
started to buffer the audio, it died(lack of UDP). I tried everything I
can think of short of doing a port scan of the wap proxy address(not a
good idea). If anyone has a phone that they got from Cingular and it has
Realplayer installed, can you please pass along the proxy setting in
Realplayer's configuration.

On a side note, the same problem seems to exists for a computer attached
to a GPRS connection, so if you can get a computer to work with
Realplayer, I would like know how you have it setup.
 
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RealPlayer works fine here (using automatic transport selection) over Cingular
GPRS.

In <4161AF46.9000804@usenetjunk.com> on Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:14:30 GMT, "R.M"
<usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> wrote:

>Has anyone got Realplayer to work on Cingular's GPRS network? Best I can
>tell, Cingular doesn't pass UDP traffic. To make matters worse, nobody
>in their customer service seems to know what a proxy is much less the
>settings for Realplayer. I'm using a Nokia 6620 that came with
>Realplayer , but as with all my phones, I have to enter all the settings
>(usually not a problem). I tried using the wap proxy, and even the
>standard Real Audio/RTSP proxy ports with no success. I even configured
>my own RTSP proxy server. I thought I had it solved then, but when it
>started to buffer the audio, it died(lack of UDP). I tried everything I
>can think of short of doing a port scan of the wap proxy address(not a
>good idea). If anyone has a phone that they got from Cingular and it has
>Realplayer installed, can you please pass along the proxy setting in
>Realplayer's configuration.
>
>On a side note, the same problem seems to exists for a computer attached
>to a GPRS connection, so if you can get a computer to work with
>Realplayer, I would like know how you have it setup.

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John Navas wrote:
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> RealPlayer works fine here (using automatic transport selection) over Cingular
> GPRS.
>
> In <4161AF46.9000804@usenetjunk.com> on Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:14:30 GMT, "R.M"
> <usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Has anyone got Realplayer to work on Cingular's GPRS network? Best I can
>>tell, Cingular doesn't pass UDP traffic. To make matters worse, nobody
>>in their customer service seems to know what a proxy is much less the
>>settings for Realplayer. I'm using a Nokia 6620 that came with
>>Realplayer , but as with all my phones, I have to enter all the settings
>>(usually not a problem). I tried using the wap proxy, and even the
>>standard Real Audio/RTSP proxy ports with no success. I even configured
>>my own RTSP proxy server. I thought I had it solved then, but when it
>>started to buffer the audio, it died(lack of UDP). I tried everything I
>>can think of short of doing a port scan of the wap proxy address(not a
>>good idea). If anyone has a phone that they got from Cingular and it has
>>Realplayer installed, can you please pass along the proxy setting in
>>Realplayer's configuration.
>>
>>On a side note, the same problem seems to exists for a computer attached
>>to a GPRS connection, so if you can get a computer to work with
>>Realplayer, I would like know how you have it setup.
>
>

John, is your RP using UDP? I've heard rumours that Cingular's
GPRS/EDGE doesn't do UDP, though I can't imagine why it wouldn't. I
mean, really, I don't know nor care, just colour me curious...

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In <cjspp5$q3f@library1.airnews.net> on Mon, 04 Oct 2004 19:27:35 -0500, Jer
<gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>>
>> In <4161AF46.9000804@usenetjunk.com> on Mon, 04 Oct 2004 20:14:30 GMT, "R.M"
>> <usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Has anyone got Realplayer to work on Cingular's GPRS network? Best I can
>>>tell, Cingular doesn't pass UDP traffic. To make matters worse, nobody
>>>in their customer service seems to know what a proxy is much less the
>>>settings for Realplayer. I'm using a Nokia 6620 that came with
>>>Realplayer , but as with all my phones, I have to enter all the settings
>>>(usually not a problem). I tried using the wap proxy, and even the
>>>standard Real Audio/RTSP proxy ports with no success. I even configured
>>>my own RTSP proxy server. I thought I had it solved then, but when it
>>>started to buffer the audio, it died(lack of UDP). I tried everything I
>>>can think of short of doing a port scan of the wap proxy address(not a
>>>good idea). If anyone has a phone that they got from Cingular and it has
>>>Realplayer installed, can you please pass along the proxy setting in
>>>Realplayer's configuration.
>>>
>>>On a side note, the same problem seems to exists for a computer attached
>>>to a GPRS connection, so if you can get a computer to work with
>>>Realplayer, I would like know how you have it setup.

>> RealPlayer works fine here (using automatic transport selection) over Cingular
>> GPRS.
>>
>John, is your RP using UDP? I've heard rumours that Cingular's
>GPRS/EDGE doesn't do UDP, though I can't imagine why it wouldn't. I
>mean, really, I don't know nor care, just colour me curious...

I'm using a notebook computer connected to a Sony Ericsson Z600 over Bluetooth
to Cingular GPRS. I ran the Automatic Transport Configuration in RealPlayer,
and it selected TCP.

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John Navas wrote:
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> I'm using a notebook computer connected to a Sony Ericsson Z600 over Bluetooth
> to Cingular GPRS. I ran the Automatic Transport Configuration in RealPlayer,
> and it selected TCP.
>

I bet of If did that on the laptop it probably would work. However,
there isn't anything like that in Realplayer on the phone. I'm about
ready to call it a lost cause. I was really looking forward to streaming
audio and video, but it not anything I can live without.

As far what Jer said about UDP, he is correct. There are some UDP ports
that Cinuglar doesn't pass. Until now I only knew of one or two ports
that I have identified but now that I've been messing with this, I
starting to think they might all be blocked.

Here is an idea .When I have time, I'll bring up one of my servers that
will echo data on all UDP ports(1-65535). Using my laptop I will then do
a port scan on my server and then I can identify exactly what ports are
open. If I'm right, and if I do find open ports, I can simply put my
RTSP proxy on one of these ports. Not sure when I can get it done, but
I'll post the results of my test.