adgjlsfhkAMD should focus on gaming laptops. They could deliver cheap gaming laptops that would blow intel ones in the same range out of the water.
they are focusing on laptops. i'm pretty sure the first A10 cpu came out for mobiles. i could be wrong because i don't really focus on AMD CPUs anymore. i do know that the integrated GPUs are awesome and they are the best CPU to get for budget gaming desktops, HTPCs and laptops.
Bloob 10/18/2012 6:41 AM
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Anyone know how well these work with Linux? Mainly, are the GPU-drivers good?
Linux drivers are terrible for these. Build a cheap desktop from an A6 back in April for a linux development machine, zero opencl/gl support. Ended up slapping windows on it and giving it to my parents to replace their core2duo.
ragenalienLinux drivers are terrible for these. Build a cheap desktop from an A6 back in April for a linux development machine, zero opencl/gl support. Ended up slapping windows on it and giving it to my parents to replace their core2duo.
Thanks for replying ( and quickly at that ).
But damn, these would have been great for a small linux-box. While RAM is cheap atm I wouldn't want to buy more than 1 GB for a HTPC, and most distros run great on 1GB.
It all makes sense, really. Most of the morons that review AMD processors keep calling single core chips dual core because AMD does. In reality, they aren't. They are barely more of a dual core chip than an Intel with hyper-threading; the extra integer units add about 15% real estate.
So, they get penalized in the reviews, because their 'quad-core' chips lose to Intel 'dual-core' chips in many disciplines. But, in terms of sales, their dual core is small, because it's not one, whereas Intel dual cores are real dual cores.
They do waste quite a bit of real estate on their APUs with the GPU part, but as more apps get optimized to use those resources, maybe it will pay off. Maybe not though. If it doesn't, it makes no sense since anyone needing real video capability needs a discrete cards, and if you're using it for the basics, you need less than these APUs have, and it just adds to cost. It's in a bad area right now, too weak or too expensive, but rarely just right. Unless more apps use it for other purposes.
October 18, 2012 7:50:28 AM
Bloob, ragenalien's comment is simply not true. You will get OpenGL support out of the box with standard opensource drivers that come with every modern Linux distribution. For OpenCL and video acceleration you just need to install AMD's Catalyst drivers. Ubuntu will do it for you, with other distributions it might be a tiny little bit more involved, but it's not complicated at all.
So they drop prices on an obsolete platform without upgrade path that was replaced with a platform that was already announced to be obsolete and without upgrade path when it hit the market.
Makes sense, otherwise no one would buy an obsolete platform without upgrade path.
cut prices, you need to slash them by more than half or give them things away.
I'm waiting to see all the FM2 and it's (CPU side) capabilities before I even look at AMD again.
power consumption, IPC, overclocking headroom...
Umm... there's Trinity A10-5800K/A8-5600K reviews all over the net with that sort of information. What you should be waiting for, however, is A10-5700 and Athlon II X4 750K reviews if you want a better view of power consumption at the very least.