Um.. UFOs? Aliens? what?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415514&in_page_id=1770

Does it not slightly intrigue you to wonder about that now? Considering this person was a ranked figure as of this week.. before resigning, believingin UFOs and an potential Alient attack?

I can see stuff from the 1970s.. even 80s.. but this guy has been employed by the MoD up until a few days ago in a high position..

I don't dispute the high possibility of alien life forms.. I'd be an idiot to not believe in the possibility. Hmm..

Hey, what's her name Sandra Brown the famous psychic said they'd start showing themselves around 2007-2009 and by 2012 we'd have internationally known contact with them.

/shrug

Anal probing and all obviously helped you.

You don't remember telling me about your experiences banging that alient chick?

You remember.. the one one you were rocking? That 'she' turned out to be a 'he' and all that but you kept on knocking.

I wouldn't know but I'd suppose everyone would be embarassed about that little event.

I'm sure of it. They're all transvestites and that would be your area of expertise.

Now do you really want to get into the world of my imagination?

If it would help rid the world of a pest like Riser, it's a chance I'm prepared to take.

And you get to do that each and every day after your therapy sessions at your secure unit.

I vote you leap from window three.

The aye's have it, jump.

You need to be of sound mind for your vote to count. Now jump.

Try and be more concise when dealing with Riser, he may well shove the ponies into the void between his ears.

I think we'd be very arrogant to assume we're the only life out there or assume we're the most intelligent life out there.

That being said, I can't think of a good reason aliens would BOTHER contacting us if they weren't aggressive and if they WERE aggressive well, it wouldn't much matter as our current technological state is highly irrelevant to a race who has mastered relativistic speeds.

Until we're able to leave our own solar system at relativistic speeds we're utterly irrelevant on the galactic scale.

I expect that any benign alien species that has found us watches us through whatever means they use... at our current level of aggression we're a hazard to any other species if we could get out of our galaxy and had an applicable technological level...

If an aggressive species found us we'd be in much worse shape... we'd stand no chance and whatever they choose to do we wouldn't have much say in the matter.

That being said, it wouldn't shock me if the governments knew that we had been visited in the past by an alien species or that an alien species is monitoring us... but on the same page, the chances of them admitting it would be nil to none.

Although, the one benefit of alien's showing up would be an almost instant cessation of racism, sexism, & a great increase in religious tolerance across the board... cuz... who cares if the guy there is black and follows the teachings of Allah... when the aliens are from another world and have NOTHING in common with you. The only we humans seem to unite well against is things that are unlike our self... an alien species is about the only thing I can imagine uniting the world.

Course, another species would toss all religion on earth for a serious loop... especially if we found out they created us or boosted our mental development... be funny shit, probably cause some serious anarchy though.

Shrug, I'm rambling.

It's all assumptions, and most are equally arrogant.

For instance, one can believe in aliens for the same reasons one believes in a god-like entity. The same rational is used.

In an infinite universe, it's silly to assume that only on our planet out of untold billions life... organized itself (if that's what you believe).

Similarly, chemical reactions on earth organized themselves into awareness, self-awareness and even sapience.

By the same statistical logic of "out-of-billions" I don't see how the notion that any number of forces, actions, reactions and bodies - even on massive scales - could have organized themselves into awareness is itself a silly one.

Is life a statistical anomaly or a tendency? Is awareness?

We can't really make even educated guesses about any of these things, our data is pathetically small and you just can't extrapolate from one or two points.

We can only make a rational guess as to which one is more likely. It's pure philosophy.

For me, both the existence of aliens and other "higher" awareness-level entities is quite rational. I mean, why not?


(Off topic):That's the correct question, I think. "Why not?". And one a lot of people fail to ask themselves. For example, most conversations with militant atheists about these topics become less rational than with believers, who mostly doubt more:

A:"So you believe in (a) god?"
Me:"I don't discount the possibility, no"
A:"You're stupid etc."
Me:"And why shouldn't he exist"
A:"Big bearded guy up there, decidin' things - give me a break! Evolution! Science! Etc!"
Me:"Non of those things annul the possibility of God"
A:"Blah blah I don't believe it!"
Me:"And that's different than having faith how? Blind (dis)belief. Please give me a rational explanation."
A:"Uh... shut-up!"

Dawkians?

Bloody ell...

Is there also a chance that there exists in this universe another Wingding?

it is a known fact though that there are only one set of birdlegs like RC's...

On dark winter nights he is known to ocassionally perform the legendary Sparrowdance.

sketchy.

I also believe that any aliens that encounter humanity would probably fly on right past shaking their heads sadly.

Me, I hope so - gives me more scope to conquer the infinite universe with hordes of robotic minions...

*Bastages*!!!!!

I can't believe someone as bright as you lowers themselves so far as to read the Daily Mail! Over here we regard the Daily Mail as a right wing teenager's tabloid

No neither can I, damned slack welcoming commitee I must say, what does a noobie have to do round here to get slated? The stickies held such a promise.

*pulls out podium and screams "I'm a bloody noobie you slackers! Where the hell are my grubs?!"*

Surprised that no-one has mentioned the Fermi paradox - if they are out there, why aren't they here?

The obvious answers are:

1. Earth is the only planet with life
2. Earth is the only planet with life that has the intelligence, dexterity and desire to explore
3. Spacefaring civilizations don't last very long, and leave little trace.

The third is the most worrying....

4. No one has been able to harness the energy required to go faster than light...yet.

4. No one has been able to harness the energy required to go faster than light...yet.

They wouldn't need to! They could build sub-light-speed colony ships or unalienned probes.

Plus, we'd be able to detect the E-M emissions.