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More info?)
Remember Slamming?
You had AT&T for long distance, then you start getting LD bills from JoeBlow
Telecom. You were slammed.
The same safeguards that prevent that from happening today, and also placed
on LNP.
You have to keep in mind that the L in LNP means local. You can have your
number (and virtual numbers) anywhere you want IS NOT true. Try moving POTS
from one LATA to another, and you will be denied. New York number in
California without VoIP, I do not think so.
But what it really looks like there are two factors involved. Just one or
both will make it tough on Vonage.
1. Vonage does not have their act together. Moving numbers (LNP) can be
automated. Sounds like they are doing it manually and hitting all the red
tape that the RBOCs have in place.
2. Vonage does not have a physical network in the SBC footprint. Makes
routing numbers to the right location tricky.
Brian LaVallee
"pleonard" <pleonard@pobox.moc> wrote in message
news:6l3as0dchnoitpio3u2s97j7qkiv4tukr2@4ax.com...
> In article ID <MPG.1c2ecccfa799612b9896a8@news.giganews.com>, Al Puzzuoli
> <alpuzz@comcast.net> writes:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am considering signing up with a voip service but if I do so, I would
>>like to port my current land line number. I have a friend who attempted
>>to do this through Vonage. When He signed up, he was given a temp
>>number"just until his original number was transfered." Well to make a
>>long story short after two months, and numerous calls both to SBC and
>>Vonage, he got tired of waiting. He bit the bullet, disconnected his
>>land line and just gave out his "temp" vonage number as his primary
>>phone. I don't know if this sort of thing is common. Does it have
>>anything to do with SBC dragging their feet and not wanting to
>>relinquish numbers, or should I stop being so cynical?
>
> I'm in the process. I don't think you can really blame the newcomers when
> the
> RBOCs are fighting them every inch of the way. If my LNP gets rejected
> from
> Comcast, I will probably select a number near one of my relatives. You can
> have your number (and virtual numbers) anywhere you want.
>
> If you do join Vonage, by your own device at a local store and retail
> activate
> it. There is a $50 rebate, no shipping, and no activation fees. Plus,
> google
> for coupons when you join to get a referral credit of a free month. If you
> don't like it, return it to the store. If you do, there are no fees unless
> you
> cancel, then you still have to return the device to Vonage or you are
> charged
> $39.99. My first bill is:
>
> Phone Number 1 $0.00 $0.00
> Activation Fee 1 $0.00 $0.00
> Residential Basic 500 Plan 1 $14.99 $14.99
> -------------------------------------
> FET Tax: $0.45
> Regulatory Recovery Fee:$1.50
> Shipping: $0.00
> Total: $16.94
>
>
>>I called BroadVoice the other day. Their unlimited world plan sounded
>>like a great deal. I was already to fill out the number porting form
>>which is prominently displayed on their page but was confused because at
>>the same time, the page stated that the ability to port numbers was not
>>yet available. I called BroadVoice. The guy I spoke with confirmed
>>that they are not yet able to port numbers. He said that they are
>>hoping to be able to start doing so some time in the first quarter of
>>next year (Translation, they are hoping to start but they have no idea
>>when it will happen).
>
> Google Broadvoice. Same story for at least six months now. That is the
> only
> reason I left them after 6 weeks. Otherwise, if LNP is not important to
> you,
> they are a great deal. I was signed up on their BYOD plan (Sipura 1000)
> for
> $5.95/mo+. Once I saw they weren't porting my number, which is why I
> initially
> joined them, I figured I might as well just by prepaid minutes with my ATA
> for
> LD calls. I found a place that sells them for $3.00 paypal at .012/min, no
> other fees, perfect quality. www.mutualphone.com
>
>>So all indications I have had so far is that this whole process is one
>>big hassle. What's the deal?
>
> Here is my confirmation email. What IS good about Vonage is that you are
> kept
> informed of the LNP progress in your control panel.
>
> Updated Date: Number Transfer Progress History:
>
> December 15, 2004 Awaiting Letter of Authorization
> December 15, 2004 Letter of Authorization (LOA) Received
> December 15, 2004 Transfer Sent to Carrier
> December 15, 2004 Transfer Sent to Carrier
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Thank you for placing your order with Vonage.
>
> **PLEASE NOTE**: You have directed Vonage to assign your
> existing phone number to Vonage service. Before we can
> assign your number, your former telephone carrier must first process
> your request. Once your former carrier releases this number,
> Vonage assigns it to you immediately.
>
> **IMPORTANT**: In order to begin the Number Transfer Process,
> Vonage must receive your Letter of Authorization (LOA)
> form as well as a recent copy of your local phone bill.
>
> In the interim, Vonage provides you with a courtesy
> temporary virtual number. This number is labeled (VIRTUAL) in the
> paragraph below. Please feel free to use this number until your
> carrier releases your existing number. Please note that transferring
> your number can take at least 15 - 20 business days upon receipt of
> complete and correct paperwork. Vonage will keep you informed of the
> transfer process via email along the way.
>
> Your new Vonage Telephone Numbers,
> Voicemail Access Numbers and temporary Voicemail PINs are:
> Phone Number Voicemail Access Number PIN
> 1-xxx-xxxx
> 1-(VIRTUAL)
>
> You can set up your voicemail at any time by calling your Voicemail Access
> Number and following the instructions.
>
> Your 11-Digit Vonage phone number is your mailbox number.
>
> For your protection, please change your Voicemail PIN as
> soon as possible.
>
> Please take a few minutes to review the details of your order.
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