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May 17, 2006 6:24:41 PM

hey guys i was just debating between getting a 360, or upgrading my pc... here are my current specs

amd athlon xp 1800+
256mb RAM
geforce 2 mx video card (yea yea...laugh)

heres what im planning to upgrade

processor- athlon xp 2800+
ram- 512 mb pc3200 ram
graphics card- geforce 6600 gt or non-gt

so which option would you go for?

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May 17, 2006 6:39:47 PM

Considering how a good old XP 2800+ is almost as expensive as a 3200+ A64 (on newegg) and that price drops on Socket 939 CPUs & mobos are expected after the release of AM2, it would be wise to spend a little more money and do a major upgrade instead.
May 17, 2006 7:14:41 PM

With that amount of money, an Xbox360 would be the better choice.
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May 17, 2006 7:14:47 PM

Buying a socket A CPU and AGP graphics is really setting yourself up for being way out of pocket a few months down the line.

Xbox 360 will make a great platform to game on (guaranteed good running, too) for a good while.
May 17, 2006 7:24:50 PM

I would say it's better to upgrade your PC, than buying and Xbox. You know what i mean- you can't compare a PC with an Xbox, only if you use that PC for gaming and nothing else (ok, let's say watchig movies and listening to music). In your case, 512 RAM is too little, but that oldie Athlon is pretty good (used to have one) and so the graphic card, but as SidVicious said, there's no a good ideea to invest in SK A . You do what you want, but a PC is always better than a Xbox (that's my opinion)
May 17, 2006 7:49:58 PM

it depends on what games you want to play
if you like those exclusive titles released just for 360, then buy a....360.. if you like titles that are release for 360 and pc, i would go for both a budget upgrade and a 360.
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May 17, 2006 8:17:37 PM

If it all comes down to spending the minimal amount of money then get the Xbox 360. You'll be able to play any Xbox 360 game now, and 3 years from now. The same can't be said of the PC. A high end rig now will play any game, three years from now it may barely qualify as a low end mainstream PC because PC tech always advances.

So basically spending $400 (or whatever the price is) for an Xbox will guarantee that any game you buy will be playable between now and the release of the next Xbox version.

Your proposed system may only last you a year and you won't have great graphics with a 6600GT. If you want to build a PC for games then you'll need to at least $1,000 for a new rig which includes a S939 Athlon 64, and a PCI-e video card, but no monitor (that's extra). That's no joke especially if you want to play Oblivion. As for the minimum video card requirements for Oblivion, burn that list. The minimum GPU should really be the Geforce 6800.

I prefer playing games on a PC, but if $1,000+ is a bit steep then get the Xbox.
May 17, 2006 8:28:51 PM

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hey guys i was just debating between getting a 360, or upgrading my pc... here are my current specs

amd athlon xp 1800+
256mb RAM
geforce 2 mx video card (yea yea...laugh)

heres what im planning to upgrade

processor- athlon xp 2800+
ram- 512 mb pc3200 ram
graphics card- geforce 6600 gt or non-gt

so which option would you go for?


YO TIPPO check out my SPECS i got the exact same thing as you have.
Just overclock and add 2-3 more fans and you can get 2200+ levels
i got 1.8GHZ thats about 2200+
May 17, 2006 8:37:49 PM

id say buy the xb360, if u want to get a pc, u should hav around 1k to get a pcie comp that will last around 3-4 years then upgrade again, but if u jus dont hav the money for it get an xb360, even consider a ps3, jus look at the list of games and not the hardware, if gaming is ur priority
May 17, 2006 9:34:27 PM

Decisions, decisions ...
Argument Number 1:
Seems that the best games are released for both a console and PC ... BUT, often, for only one brand of console.
Say you do buy an Xbox now, with accessories, for about $300. And this December, a really cool game comes out ... but it's only on the Playstation 3 (and also PC).
Will you then go out and buy a $600 Playstation so you can play that game? Considering the amount of money spent to buy two consoles, would you be wishing you had built a new computer instead?
I have friends who never had a PC, but simultaneously had a Playstation 2, Xbox and Nintendo. That seems like a big waste of money to me.
Argument Number 2:
There are some games never released for PC that are great fun on a console. And other games allow you have friends over and plug in extra controllers, which you can't do with PC.
So you have to decide what kinds of games you want to play, and is PC or console better for that?
Argument Number 3:
You can rent console games are your local video store, but you can't rent PC games. As a PC gamer, this doesn't bother me because I typically play one high-quality game with depth for several months at a time (Oblivion is my current obsession). But if you just want a quick game of shoot'em up, you might as well save money and go with the Xbox.
May 17, 2006 9:59:38 PM

lookie what i found:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

that looks like a decent barebone kit, huh?
and even without the rebate, its 460$ ish CAD... and comes with a bunch of rebates. add a 100-200 dollar graphics card to it, and its a pretty good gaming rig (good enough anyways...).
the xbox 360 costs about 500 CAD right now... so now which is th better deal?

oh and bty,
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YO TIPPO check out my SPECS i got the exact same thing as you have.
Just overclock and add 2-3 more fans and you can get 2200+ levels
i got 1.8GHZ thats about 2200+

i got 1.8GHZ off stock cooling! ha!
May 17, 2006 10:27:16 PM

Those are my consideration about PC or X-BOX.

:arrow: PC: More expensive and require upgrades almost every years. Games are less expensive. If you like shooters and you like to play it with mouse and keyboard to have max control. Also you can use the PC for everything else you want. If you have passion for overclocking and build your own system this is the right choice (but you need to accept the idea that PCs give you lot of craps compared to a console)

:arrow: X-BOX360: Less expensive, but more expensive games. Onlu joystics. Good choice if you want to play and play. You can customize the X-BOX with mods, but is not the same as the PC. I think when you start to buy games and games... at the end the price will be more than have a powerfull PC. This is the good choice if you want a system that is ready for games (no much hardware and software knowlegde required).
May 17, 2006 10:46:05 PM

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hey guys i was just debating between getting a 360, or upgrading my pc... here are my current specs

amd athlon xp 1800+
256mb RAM
geforce 2 mx video card (yea yea...laugh)

heres what im planning to upgrade

processor- athlon xp 2800+
ram- 512 mb pc3200 ramgraphics card- geforce 6600 gt or non-gt


so which option would you go for?


no that's rubbish. if i couldn't upgrade any better than that i wouldn't get either. xbox 360 you're limited to buying expensive games, accessories, and HDTVs for.
May 17, 2006 11:16:28 PM

i probly should have mentioned that i already have a 50' HDTV...
May 17, 2006 11:26:29 PM

buy an xbox 360 and upgrade your pc latter in 2007..
May 17, 2006 11:39:18 PM

I say Again !! check out my SPECS TIPOOz i got the exact same thing as you have.
Just overclock and add 2-3 more fans and you can get 2200+ levels
i got 1.8GHZ thats about 2200+ it'll run hott but thats why you get about 40$ worth of fans a new Heatsink and better fa and 2to4- 5-10$ fans for the case.
May 17, 2006 11:44:08 PM

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I say Again !! check out my SPECS TIPOOz i got the exact same thing as you have.
Just overclock and add 2-3 more fans and you can get 2200+ levels
i got 1.8GHZ thats about 2200+ it'll run hott but thats why you get about 40$ worth of fans a new Heatsink and better fa and 2to4- 5-10$ fans for the case.


and again, i say i got 1.8ghz off stock cooling!
May 17, 2006 11:45:03 PM

thie thing about socket A is the retention mechanism for attaching heatsinks is limited to the useless standard one which isn't very good, unless you cut holes in the mobo and mod it to 939 heatsink retention clip or something... also there aren't really any good available heatsinks available for socket a. so just spend as little money as possible on what you have at the moment, just get a couple of decent fans
May 17, 2006 11:57:19 PM

Lols. did you just EDIT and put that in? did'nt see it. Lols nice :D  U overclocked ya Geforce and your RAM timing and Latencys? because i did some messing around in the BIOS and i'm getting benchmarks of a Semptron 3000+ Nice :D  and Harddrive is going to die. but oh well get a Cheap 200GB 8mb one. And on 1.8Ghz it goes a Semptron in Benchmarks(almost) and beats the shytt out of most all NON-HT pentium 4! and only cost me getting a few case fans and messing around with the aluminum heatsink
May 18, 2006 12:32:00 AM

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hey guys i was just debating between getting a 360, or upgrading my pc... here are my current specs

amd athlon xp 1800+
256mb RAM
geforce 2 mx video card (yea yea...laugh)

heres what im planning to upgrade

processor- athlon xp 2800+
ram- 512 mb pc3200 ram
graphics card- geforce 6600 gt or non-gt

so which option would you go for?


You need at least 1GB ram and a better gfx card like 7600gt. If you can't afford that, you better buy a xbox instead. Perhaps you could buy a used computer, if you're not planing on buying the latest and greatest.
May 18, 2006 12:39:14 AM

If those are your choices DEFINATELY go for the 360...your current PC can hold you over in everything except gaming for a while longer until you want to get VISTA...then you can get a nextgen processor and all that jazz for the same prices.

You wont be happy gaming with that rig...at least not as much as a 360.
May 18, 2006 12:52:07 AM

Get the upgrade now, then buy the xbox 360 when halo 3 comes out, as that is the only reason to get an xbox 360.
May 18, 2006 12:54:30 AM

Who Me? I'm not getting an upgrade yet. I'm going to be Given the CNR-E6700 When it Comes out. ANd i;m gongi to buy a Opteron 175@ O/c it to 2.8Ghz and run those 2. Screw Microsoft XBOX360. Long live the SONY!
May 18, 2006 1:06:51 AM

Quote:
hey guys i was just debating between getting a 360, or upgrading my pc... here are my current specs

amd athlon xp 1800+
256mb RAM
geforce 2 mx video card (yea yea...laugh)

heres what im planning to upgrade

processor- athlon xp 2800+
ram- 512 mb pc3200 ram
graphics card- geforce 6600 gt or non-gt

so which option would you go for?


If all you want is a toy get the game machine.

If you want something that will play everything that toy will (and alot more) and pay about 1/2 the price for the same software....build a computer.

As far as grf detail vrs computer....game boxs are a joke.
May 18, 2006 1:09:31 AM

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and pay about 1/2 the price for the same software


WTF are you talking about?
May 18, 2006 1:50:50 AM

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hey guys i was just debating between getting a 360, or upgrading my pc... here are my current specs

amd athlon xp 1800+
256mb RAM
geforce 2 mx video card (yea yea...laugh)

heres what im planning to upgrade

processor- athlon xp 2800+
ram- 512 mb pc3200 ram
graphics card- geforce 6600 gt or non-gt

so which option would you go for?


X360 all the way man. Your current POS system surfs the web and checks e-mail right? Then get the 360 for you gamng fix. especially if you have a 50'+ hi def tv.
May 18, 2006 2:09:41 AM

If you already have the 50" HDTV, then go with the X360. You'll have lots of fun playing the games on the big wide screen.

Funny you should have that system. I have the exact same thing. I have a 1800+ and a Geforce 2 GTS. I've been really itching to play some new games, but I don't really have the money to rebuild my system. I'm going to be doing a complete rebuild. AM2/Conroe, 2GB DDR2, DirectX 10 card, Windows Vista, New case PS and sound. Complete build.... $1800. I don't have $1800 right now and so the $400 X360 route is looking good to me.

And don't give me that whiney "consol games just cost more", sure $10 more. How many games can you play at the same time? How many games do you buy per year? Whiney bitches. The X360 has alot more games than computer games. And you can rent consol games, you can't rent computer games. Sure, Oblivion looks amazing on the PC, but you can get a really awesome experience on the X360 too. And with a 50" HDTV that would be killer.

Wait and do a complete rebuild on your computer here in another year. You're not playing current computer games on your rig anyways. And if you were a hardcore computer gamer you would've upgraded a year ago. The X360 is a really good option for you (and for me for that matter). Spend $400 now and then save and build a computer in a year.

That's what I'd do.
May 18, 2006 2:20:35 AM

Well I am selling a computer:

CPU: Intel Inside 200MHz MMX Technology!
RAM: 128MB 100MHz
HD: 6GB + 2GB

It run Windows 2000 Pro and Office 2000 Pro.

absolutely you can watch 50cent music's videos if you do not move too much the mouse.

Big deal! The CPU does not need the FAN, the CPU run COLD without heat problems. It is really quiet computer.

:arrow: I might sell it to you half price of the X-BOX 360. Now the choice is up to you!

OK I'll give you the game PacMan for free!
May 18, 2006 2:57:22 AM

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If all you want is a toy get the game machine.

If you want something that will play everything that toy will (and alot more) and pay about 1/2 the price for the same software....build a computer.

As far as grf detail vrs computer....game boxs are a joke.


Hmm so he should upgrade to a PC that will only last him another 6months of gaming?

In his case, and what he has told us, he should definately get the 360, especially with a 50" TV!!!!!
May 18, 2006 3:15:18 AM

It's really a no brainer. Are you a PC Gamer or a Console Gamer? It's a big difference and you should know which one you are by now. Upgrading your PC could make it faster then a 360 anyway. But you need to decide what kind of gamer you are.

Plus if you want to stick to the PC you will need to upgrade the video card to the best you can afford. and get at least a gig of ram. 512 is a joke nowadays for games.
May 18, 2006 3:17:37 AM

Why limit yourself to just one? A real gamer would get the best of both worlds.
May 18, 2006 3:24:23 AM

By the way if you own a 50" HDTV then you should also know that you can attach a PC to that via DVI or DVI to HDMI if it is somewhat newer.

That is your true gaming experience... Sitting back gaming or surfing on your 50"....

Seems pretty easy to me, if you want to play the current volley of PC games you can not afford it, if you like COD, UT2k4, HL2 you can game away on a newer/lower PC.
May 18, 2006 3:30:55 AM

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That is your true gaming experience... Sitting back gaming or surfing on your 50"....


Ugh, that's awful unless you use a pad.
May 18, 2006 3:33:02 AM

I just set a board in my lap while in the recliner with the keyboard and mouse... I am throwing a 720P image at 117" while gaming and love every minute of it..
May 18, 2006 3:35:18 AM

That's sucky at best.
May 18, 2006 3:38:06 AM

1280x720p is sucky at best?

Where are you from.... Every Lan party I have thrown, people want to play on the big screen not on their own LCD/CRT.

Alot of people come back to the parties again and again because they enjoy the big screen experience.

Please explain?
May 18, 2006 3:39:28 AM

Is it the board that sucks?

Or the fact that I am gaming on a wireless keyboard/mouse setup?
May 18, 2006 3:40:29 AM

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I just set a board in my lap while in the recliner with the keyboard and mouse


Is sucky at best.

The big screen is cool but for pc gaming I'll take higher rez and smaller screen. Looks much better.
May 18, 2006 3:44:58 AM

The big screen is VERY immersive. And the rez is not that bad, although you do have to set up your gaming with widescreen settings. Alot of gamers turn down rez and graphics so they get better visuals on what counts (the guy you are shooting) :-).

Actually the recliner with the board is not a bad option. It works well and is much better than sitting in a cold hard foldable chair while Lan gaming :-)
May 18, 2006 3:46:51 AM

If the thread starter is giving us his options, I dont see how you could reccomend his PC option if he is a gamer (that likes nice graphics) He would be UPGRADING to another AMD XP and a 6600??? Personally i think that setup is more similar to a regular xbox than a 360.

If i were in your shoes, with those choices, I would buy the 360 now, then if you like to game on PC as well buy a NEW computer in a year or so...with conroe and next gen gfx cards.
May 18, 2006 3:51:07 AM

I have a pretty sweet setup,

I built a room above my garage that is 32X14 with a couple of dormers where I can place tables. I also have six 30amp circuits dedicated in the walls (2 for my equipment audio/video/computer and 4 for guests). I also prewired for 18 ports along the walls all out of the way of where I am throwing my pic.

People just come over and jack into the wall for both power and connectivity. No wires all over the place, no tripping, and enough room comfortably for 16 - 20 people. I have easily hosted 16 folks and it is a blast!
May 18, 2006 3:53:08 AM

The best thing about the big screen (apart from the size) is that (depending on the game) you can generally ramp up the AA and AF which is nice but I'd prefer rez and effects. Widescreen is nice as well but its not supported enough, grrr.
May 18, 2006 3:59:20 AM

You may be suprised! Widescreen gaming is actually well supported. If you go to widescreengaimingforum.com they have console commands for just about everything out right now. And on some games like UT2K4 the FOV is actually greater (not just stretched) in the widescreen mode.

I am aUT2k4 fan. Love the game play of it.
May 18, 2006 4:01:12 AM

Interesting, few of my favourite games worked. With the xbox 360 and PS3 being native widescreen it should be much less of an issue.
May 18, 2006 5:04:18 AM

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Who Me? I'm not getting an upgrade yet. I'm going to be Given the CNR-E6700 When it Comes out. ANd i;m gongi to buy a Opteron 175@ O/c it to 2.8Ghz and run those 2. Screw Microsoft XBOX360. Long live the SONY!

Have fun paying 600 US plus tax + $70/game for the hype machine.
May 18, 2006 5:51:51 AM

Buy a 360. Upgrades are punitive even now. And if that doesn't quite convince you then heed, Halo 3.
May 18, 2006 7:25:09 AM

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Have fun paying 600 US plus tax + $70/game for the hype machine.


PlayStation rules.

The £300 I spent on my PS2 is honestly the best £300 I've ever spent. I know the PS3 is going to cost £400, but I really do think it's going to be worth it.

I was happy with the graphics and playability of my PlayStation for about 5-6 years, and as soon as I wanted something more, the PS2 came out. I'm not even slightly bored of my PS2 and PS3 is already coming out - it's going to be great.

As for people who say it's overpriced and the games are too expensive - how many times do you rebuild your system in 5 years? I'd say a conservative guess is 3 times, at least major upgrades rather than rebuilds. If you cost it up over time, the PlayStation is far cheaper than any PC, and because of the nature of games designed for a specific platform, you'll be hard pushed to find a game that runs at anything less than a great framerate.
May 18, 2006 6:26:02 PM

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Well I am selling a computer:

CPU: Intel Inside 200MHz MMX Technology!
RAM: 128MB 100MHz
HD: 6GB + 2GB

It run Windows 2000 Pro and Office 2000 Pro.

absolutely you can watch 50cent music's videos if you do not move too much the mouse.

Big deal! The CPU does not need the FAN, the CPU run COLD without heat problems. It is really quiet computer.

:arrow: I might sell it to you half price of the X-BOX 360. Now the choice is up to you!

OK I'll give you the game PacMan for free!

Why get an xbox 360 when this guy is practically giving his system away?
May 18, 2006 6:33:53 PM

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Have fun paying 600 US plus tax + $70/game for the hype machine.


PlayStation rules.

The £300 I spent on my PS2 is honestly the best £300 I've ever spent. I know the PS3 is going to cost £400, but I really do think it's going to be worth it.

I was happy with the graphics and playability of my PlayStation for about 5-6 years, and as soon as I wanted something more, the PS2 came out. I'm not even slightly bored of my PS2 and PS3 is already coming out - it's going to be great.

As for people who say it's overpriced and the games are too expensive - how many times do you rebuild your system in 5 years? I'd say a conservative guess is 3 times, at least major upgrades rather than rebuilds. If you cost it up over time, the PlayStation is far cheaper than any PC, and because of the nature of games designed for a specific platform, you'll be hard pushed to find a game that runs at anything less than a great framerate.

I totally agree with you...my xbox was a great investment...no telling how much fun ive had on xbox live etc.

However i really dont see the benefits of console gaming this generation versus PC (other than Wii of course) Maybe if someone couldnt afford a PC and are on a VERY tight budget...
May 18, 2006 8:50:26 PM

i love how all of you completely ignored this post...

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lookie what i found:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

that looks like a decent barebone kit, huh?
and even without the rebate, its 460$ ish CAD... and comes with a bunch of rebates. add a 100-200 dollar graphics card to it, and its a pretty good gaming rig (good enough anyways...).
the xbox 360 costs about 500 CAD right now... so now which is th better deal?
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