VoIP plans prices

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I browsed online for VoIP services and came up with the following:

- Lingo: unlimited $19.95
- iConnect: 800 minutes $15.99 unlimited $29.99
- BroadVoice: unlimited $19.95 in-state $9.95
- BroadVox: couldn't find any details
- Vonage: unlimited $24.99 500 minutes $14.99
- SpeakEasy: couldn't find any details
- Packet8: unlimited $19.95
- Belkin: 500 minutes $14.95 unlimited $24.95

By unlimited I mean the US and Canada.

How come there is such a difference?
AT&T and Verizon offer is more expensive.
Have you heard of any of these brands quality of service?

For me, if quality is pretty much the same, I'd go for the "in state"
package for
$9.95 from BroadVoice. I do mostly local calls.
Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?

 

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<jonathanztaub@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?
>

If you want to use your PC for calls, Voiceglo has good sound quality and
easy setup. Peer-to-peer is also free.
http://www.glophone.com/plans

 

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jonathanztaub@yahoo.com writes:
>I browsed online for VoIP services and came up with the following:

>- Lingo: unlimited $19.95
>- iConnect: 800 minutes $15.99 unlimited $29.99
>- BroadVoice: unlimited $19.95 in-state $9.95
>- BroadVox: couldn't find any details
>- Vonage: unlimited $24.99 500 minutes $14.99
>- SpeakEasy: couldn't find any details
>- Packet8: unlimited $19.95
>- Belkin: 500 minutes $14.95 unlimited $24.95


Lots of others, but these are probably the bigger names out there.

>By unlimited I mean the US and Canada.

>How come there is such a difference?


Because its a relatively new service, and the market hasn't converged down
to be a commodity service level and price yet.


>AT&T and Verizon offer is more expensive.


Yes, the bigger brand names tend to be.


>Have you heard of any of these brands quality of service?


Yes. They all come out about the same, and it usually depends on your
connectivity. Most of the VOIP providers generally buy wholesale ports
in each market, and your computer/IAX/ATA/Phone talks directly with
the port after the initial routing and registration are done with the
providers gear. So really, its more an issue about what kind of
hardware they promote, how their enhanced services work for you, and
their customer service is if you need to use it.

>For me, if quality is pretty much the same, I'd go for the "in state"
>package for
>$9.95 from BroadVoice. I do mostly local calls.
>Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?

Some of those that you quote above do offer a pay-as-you-go, but they
all generally like the fixed rates above because people usually don't
use all the minutes they sign up for anyway, and the block rate gives
them a better deal.

 

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jonathanztaub@yahoo.com writes:


>By unlimited I mean the US and Canada.

The "unlimited" plans aren't unlimited. The providers pay for the usage
and you will too if you go over the unspoken limit.

>Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?

LiveVoIP: $0.018/minute, $1/month DID

I much prefer to simply pay for what I get - especially when I don't use
much. I doubt there are many people who really get a better deal with
the "unlimited" plans over the long term. (If they did, the company
would not do well...which *is* happening to some already.)

--kyler

 

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Kyler Laird <Kyler@news.Lairds.org> writes:

> The "unlimited" plans aren't unlimited. The providers pay for the usage
> and you will too if you go over the unspoken limit.

Yeah, I keep wondering about this. I'm on the "unlimited" world plus plan
on Broadvoice, I wonder how long they will keep this plan up. At $24/mo,
I can't see how they make any money.

> I much prefer to simply pay for what I get - especially when I don't use
> much. I doubt there are many people who really get a better deal with
> the "unlimited" plans over the long term. (If they did, the company
> would not do well...which *is* happening to some already.)

Well, it all depends on calling patterns. I make calls to Argentina
frequently, the world plus plan at Broadvoice is a perfect fit for me,
my international bill went from $90+ to a flat fee of $24/mo.

-jav

 

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Javier Henderson <javier@KJSL.COM> writes:

>Kyler Laird <Kyler@news.Lairds.org> writes:

>> The "unlimited" plans aren't unlimited. The providers pay for the usage
>> and you will too if you go over the unspoken limit.

>Yeah, I keep wondering about this. I'm on the "unlimited" world plus plan
>on Broadvoice, I wonder how long they will keep this plan up. At $24/mo,
>I can't see how they make any money.

Individuals can get US and Canada VoIP service for well under $0.02/minute.
Surely BroadVoice pays less. That means any user who doesn't use well over
1000 minutes per month is leaving some money for other operating costs (and
profit). Having a few users who go over is o.k. as long as enough users go
under.

>> I much prefer to simply pay for what I get - especially when I don't use
>> much. I doubt there are many people who really get a better deal with
>> the "unlimited" plans over the long term. (If they did, the company
>> would not do well...which *is* happening to some already.)

>Well, it all depends on calling patterns. I make calls to Argentina
>frequently, the world plus plan at Broadvoice is a perfect fit for me,
>my international bill went from $90+ to a flat fee of $24/mo.

Argentina is $0.018 (Buenos Aires) to $0.1102 (Mobile) per minute at LiveVoIP.
The rate for regular "Argentina" is $0.0319/minute so I assume you use
something on the order of 2500 minutes per month (an hour and a half every
day) to make "$90+". I will be surprised if you keep up this usage without
being contacted by BroadVoice. I hope you'll report back on it. I'm sure
there are lots of people who would appreciate the info.

--kyler

 

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In article <3sr2a2-vb9.ln1@lairds.us> Kyler Laird <Kyler@news.Lairds.org>
writes:

>Javier Henderson <javier@KJSL.COM> writes:

>>Kyler Laird <Kyler@news.Lairds.org> writes:

>>> The "unlimited" plans aren't unlimited. The providers pay for the usage
>>> and you will too if you go over the unspoken limit.

>>Yeah, I keep wondering about this. I'm on the "unlimited" world plus plan
>>on Broadvoice, I wonder how long they will keep this plan up. At $24/mo,
>>I can't see how they make any money.

[snip]

Most any 1st-year law student can probably explain that "unlimited" means
exactly that, without limits, and any good attorney can write a letter to
the service provider sternly warning them that any attempt to place -any-
restrictions on your "unlimited" usage can result in legal action charging
the service provider with Deceptive Trade Practices. It's a very serious
charge and one which is very expensive to lose in court (treble damages).
Several of the early internet service providers who naively used the word
"unlimited" in their original advertised offerings got severely stung by
it (at least here in Texas) and now fervently avoid the use that word for
that reason.

 

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"Kyler Laird" <Kyler@news.Lairds.org> wrote in message
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> Javier Henderson <javier@KJSL.COM> writes:
>
snip

> Individuals can get US and Canada VoIP service for well under
$0.02/minute.
> Surely BroadVoice pays less. That means any user who doesn't use
well over
> 1000 minutes per month is leaving some money for other operating
costs (and
> profit). Having a few users who go over is o.k. as long as enough
users go
> under.
snip
> --kyler


Can you name a Canadian VoIP provider that charges "well" under 2
cents a minute. What does "well under" mean anyway? Less then 0.015? I
haven't run across any Canadian provider charging a per minute price
that low. I would be very interested in finding out who you would be
referring to.

 

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In article ID <Z8Hzd.10423$Tn1.178728@news20.bellglobal.com>, "B Nelson"
<telecommunication@sympatico.ca> writes:

>Can you name a Canadian VoIP provider that charges "well" under 2
>cents a minute. What does "well under" mean anyway? Less then 0.015? I
>haven't run across any Canadian provider charging a per minute price
>that low. I would be very interested in finding out who you would be
>referring to.

Toronto Ontario Canada. www.mutualphone.com .012/min US

And you can buy blocks of $3 via paypal, no fees, pay as you go.

 

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"B Nelson" <telecommunication@sympatico.ca> writes:

>Can you name a Canadian VoIP provider that charges "well" under 2
>cents a minute.

LiveVoIP has/had offices in Canada. Montreal, I think. Regardless,
they provide services in Canada.

>What does "well under" mean anyway? Less then 0.015?

Yes, it starts at $0.0130 and goes down to $0.0085.
http://www.livevoip.com/index.php?subject=1&content=usaCanadaRates
Contrast that to Nufone (who I emphatically recommend avoiding) who
claims "2c/m" but actually charges $0.029.

--kyler

 

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Thanks, I will investigate.

Has anyone tried OnlineTel? According to their yearly subscription it
they would be $0.0041


"Kyler Laird" <Kyler@news.Lairds.org> wrote in message
news:6ld4a2-535.ln1@lairds.us...
> "B Nelson" <telecommunication@sympatico.ca> writes:
>
> >Can you name a Canadian VoIP provider that charges "well" under 2
> >cents a minute.
>
> LiveVoIP has/had offices in Canada. Montreal, I think. Regardless,
> they provide services in Canada.
>
> >What does "well under" mean anyway? Less then 0.015?
>
> Yes, it starts at $0.0130 and goes down to $0.0085.
> http://www.livevoip.com/index.php?subject=1&content=usaCanadaRates
> Contrast that to Nufone (who I emphatically recommend avoiding) who
> claims "2c/m" but actually charges $0.029.
>
> --kyler

 

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On 2004-12-24 18:07:13 -0500, "Pepperoni" <wastebasketbot@hotmail.com> said:

>
> <jonathanztaub@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1103913708.593739.20230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?
>>
>
> If you want to use your PC for calls, Voiceglo has good sound quality and
> easy setup. Peer-to-peer is also free.
> http://www.glophone.com/plans

Net2Phone has Pay As You Go, Limited and Unlimited plans.

 

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www.hyperfone.net/fone offers a pay as you go plan on broadband and dialup
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Kyler Laird wrote:

> jonathanztaub@yahoo.com writes:


>>By unlimited I mean the US and Canada.

> The "unlimited" plans aren't unlimited. The providers pay
> for the usage
> and you will too if you go over the unspoken limit.

>>Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?

> LiveVoIP: $0.018/minute, $1/month DID

> I much prefer to simply pay for what I get - especially when I don't
> use
> much. I doubt there are many people who really get a better deal with
> the "unlimited" plans over the long term. (If they did, the
> company
> would not do well...which *is* happening to some already.)

> --kyler









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Can I buy any of these services and use it abroad?

jonathanztaub@yahoo.com wrote:
> I browsed online for VoIP services and came up with the following:
>
> - Lingo: unlimited $19.95
> - iConnect: 800 minutes $15.99 unlimited $29.99
> - BroadVoice: unlimited $19.95 in-state $9.95
> - BroadVox: couldn't find any details
> - Vonage: unlimited $24.99 500 minutes $14.99
> - SpeakEasy: couldn't find any details
> - Packet8: unlimited $19.95
> - Belkin: 500 minutes $14.95 unlimited $24.95
>
> By unlimited I mean the US and Canada.
>
> How come there is such a difference?
> AT&T and Verizon offer is more expensive.
> Have you heard of any of these brands quality of service?
>
> For me, if quality is pretty much the same, I'd go for the "in state"
> package for
> $9.95 from BroadVoice. I do mostly local calls.
> Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?
>

 

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Ken Endeley <kenendeley@lycos.com> wrote:
> jonathanztaub@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I browsed online for VoIP services and came up with the following:
>>
>> - Lingo: unlimited $19.95
>> - iConnect: 800 minutes $15.99 unlimited $29.99
>> - BroadVoice: unlimited $19.95 in-state $9.95
>> - BroadVox: couldn't find any details
>> - Vonage: unlimited $24.99 500 minutes $14.99
>> - SpeakEasy: couldn't find any details
>> - Packet8: unlimited $19.95
>> - Belkin: 500 minutes $14.95 unlimited $24.95
>
> Can I buy any of these services and use it abroad?

Sure, as long as you can get a decent internet connection. I use USA-based
VoIP across a DSL connection here in Malaysia without much issue (the ISP
blocks port 5060 so I have to run around that, but once that's taken care of
things work fine, despite my 300ms ping times to the USA).

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 35 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu

 

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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:24:54 -0500, Ken Endeley <kenendeley@lycos.com>
wrote:

>Can I buy any of these services and use it abroad?
>
My friend was going to send a Packet8 box to his sister in Singapore.
When I talked to Packet8 they had different rates, but the calls to
USA were about 2 cents per minute and free to other Packet8 customers.

Carl Navarro



>jonathanztaub@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I browsed online for VoIP services and came up with the following:
>>
>> - Lingo: unlimited $19.95
>> - iConnect: 800 minutes $15.99 unlimited $29.99
>> - BroadVoice: unlimited $19.95 in-state $9.95
>> - BroadVox: couldn't find any details
>> - Vonage: unlimited $24.99 500 minutes $14.99
>> - SpeakEasy: couldn't find any details
>> - Packet8: unlimited $19.95
>> - Belkin: 500 minutes $14.95 unlimited $24.95
>>
>> By unlimited I mean the US and Canada.
>>
>> How come there is such a difference?
>> AT&T and Verizon offer is more expensive.
>> Have you heard of any of these brands quality of service?
>>
>> For me, if quality is pretty much the same, I'd go for the "in state"
>> package for
>> $9.95 from BroadVoice. I do mostly local calls.
>> Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?
>>

 

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Ken Endeley wrote:
> Can I buy any of these services and use it abroad?
>
> jonathanztaub@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I browsed online for VoIP services and came up with the following:
>>
>> - Lingo: unlimited $19.95
>> - iConnect: 800 minutes $15.99 unlimited $29.99
>> - BroadVoice: unlimited $19.95 in-state $9.95
>> - BroadVox: couldn't find any details
>> - Vonage: unlimited $24.99 500 minutes $14.99
>> - SpeakEasy: couldn't find any details
>> - Packet8: unlimited $19.95
>> - Belkin: 500 minutes $14.95 unlimited $24.95
>>
>> By unlimited I mean the US and Canada.
>>
>> How come there is such a difference?
>> AT&T and Verizon offer is more expensive.
>> Have you heard of any of these brands quality of service?
>>
>> For me, if quality is pretty much the same, I'd go for the "in state"
>> package for
>> $9.95 from BroadVoice. I do mostly local calls.
>> Is anyone aware of pay as you go kinda plans?
>>
>

What about

VoiceWind
CallVantage

?