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A How-To Guide On Posting New Topics In The Forumz (Poll)

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Should this be a Sticky?

Total: 52 votes

  • Yes
  • 85 %
  • No
  • 16 %
May 18, 2006 10:36:23 PM

This is a note to new members on these forumz looking to post a thread seeking advice for a new build or upgrade. When you post a new topic seeking recommendations, please include all the information you can.

DO A LITTLE RESEARCH

A lot of threads on this forum are simply repeats of previous posts. If you have a question about the PhysX processor and are unsure of whether or not it has been asked before, please do a search in the forum. It will take about 5 seconds for every post with “PhysX” in the title to show up. Check out the titles, click on any that may correlate to your question and you may save yourself a great deal of time. This doesn’t mean that you have to do extensive exploration of every website on earth before you ask a question, but if you ask one that has been answered on the Forumz fifty times already you should prepare yourself for an Olympic-Class flame fest. Also, please be aware that Tom’s is not defined solely by the Forumz. There are a great deal of worthwhile articles at THG. Many members here have read through most of these already and that’s one of the places where we have gained much of our knowledge.

For instance, suppose someone asks which would be a better graphics card to play Quake 4 at Ultra quality at 1600 x 1200 and the choices are a 7800GT and 2 6800 Ultras in SLI. I know that in this example the best performance would be from the single 7800GT. Do I know this because I have a superior knowledge of all things GPU? No, it’s because I looked here. Most productive responses to this question will also come from people who look at this article or others like it. No member of the forum has access to a laboratory filled with every imaginable computer component. We get our information from using the tools that this site provides.

WHAT’S IN A NAME?

Quite a bit, actually.

Good Title: Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego System Will Not Boot
Bad Title:p LLeZZZ HEPL ME!!!1!1!

This is not just for "netiquette" purposes. There are hundreds of new threads on the message boards every day and I, and others, do not read every one of them. However, if I see a topic about someone needing help with an Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego core processor I'll at least read the thread because I have experience with that kind of hardware.

WHAT IS YOUR BUDGET?

If you post a thread asking what graphics card is best for you and you don't let us know how much you are willing to spend, there is little we can do to help you. You will get responses ranging from a $40 Radeon 9550 on ebay to two $590 GeForce 7900gtx cards in SLI. Be as specific in your money range as you can. Saying that you are willing to spend "$200 to $500" is not going to help you as much as saying "$300 to $350" would.

In addition, please convert any currency you use in your posts into GBP or USD. If you post a budget of 123,456 MNUCs (My Nation's Unit of Currency) then anyone who wishes to respond has to go to a currency conversion website and whip out a calculator. That's a little too much effort for some of us. :D 

LET US KNOW WHAT PLATFORM YOU ARE RUNNING!

Do you need new RAM? DDR or DDR2? What capacity are you looking for? Is latency important to you? Will you run it in dual channel or a single stick? These are all questions someone is going to ask you if you don't provide it in your initial post. To expand on the example above, if you ask what GPU you should invest in without informing as to which interface you have available (PCI, AGP, PCIE) you will invariably be sent a post asking about it. This is not an efficient use of your time or ours. Save yourself the hassle of posting twice on the same subject just to clarify your original question!

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU WANT YOUR RIG TO DO!

"Build me a computer" is not enough information for us to work with. There are so many variables and personal preferences involved in a new build and so many different tasks a computer can perform that such a simple question can become very complicated very quickly. If you want to build a gaming rig, you need to let us know that so we can get our game-build gears turning. If video encoding is important to you, we'd like to know that, too. Do you just want a simple machine for web-browsing or word processing? Well, that's going to have an entirely different set of components than somebody else's ultimate home theater computer.

HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM

Saying, "My computer died and I have a doctoral thesis due tomorrow, what should I do?" won't get you very much immediate help. We need to know the symptoms there, Doc! Has it been acting up recently? Any weird noises from the case, error messages or flickering on the screen? Give us as much information as you have available. This includes specific hardware models, driver versions, recent changes and host of other potential problem areas we need to know about before we can give you a hand. YOU CAN NEVER GIVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION! God is in the details, after all...

MAKE YOUR POST EASY TO READ

Use paragraphs. A huge block of text is off-putting to a reader. Likewise you should make every possible effort to use the proper punctuation in your sentences if you finish a thought let us see a period so we know when to begin processing what you have just told us if you are asking a question please use a question mark and also you are allowed to use the occasional comma if you’re feeling adventurous all in all it is just not helpful to your cause if the people you’re asking the question to have to reread several parts of your post just to try and figure out what you’re saying like you probably just had to do right now


LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION...

If you ask where you can buy a cheap PSU online then I can personally guarantee that you will receive a great deal of links to Newegg (as an example). This is not going to help you at all if you live Australia because Newegg is unavailable there. Remember, if you need to know "where" then so do we!
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I click on threads all the time where a question has been asked and a productive response has not been given for about 7 or 8 posts because the first posts are requests for more information. I just thought I'd help everyone out with a little guide on how to receive the quickest help they can get.

Thanks go out to TechnologyCoordinator, Llama Man and Shadowduck for their help with this post.
May 18, 2006 10:52:11 PM

:)  I'm just an eager little beaver, ain't I?
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May 19, 2006 12:39:54 AM

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Nicely done, I like it!

Obviously you like it, you helped out. :p 

The only part I contributed was "2.) WHAT’S IN A NAME?". He cleaned it up and integrated it into his existing document. And yes, my part rocks.
May 19, 2006 11:25:32 AM

Nice post. Especially my bit. :wink:
May 19, 2006 11:51:52 AM

Hello,

Another thing to add for forum issues:

--fanboyism
--arguements and fights breaking out
--cursing
--porn
May 19, 2006 11:57:11 AM

Quote:
Hello,

Another thing to add for forum issues:

--fanboyism
--arguements and fights breaking out
--cursing
--porn


I think the OP is trying to create a guide to help people posting asking for advice, so your suggestions aren't particularly relevant for this thread. For example, I've never seen someone posting a "Hlp me plz!!!111!!!" thread display any fanboyism. Total n00bs won't even have heard of ATI or NVidia! :lol: 

However, your suggestions most certainly ARE relevant to a general guide to forum rules / etiquette. Maybe you could start one?
May 19, 2006 12:06:18 PM

I would also add that users should include their full system spec as their signature......
May 19, 2006 12:32:12 PM

Quote:
--porn

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
May 19, 2006 1:10:37 PM

You got my vote again.
May 19, 2006 1:17:44 PM

Nicely done with just the right mix of advice and sarcasm. You've got my vote especially in the wake of all the "what's the best to OC the 805" threads that have flooded the forumz lately.
May 19, 2006 2:15:10 PM

Yep, as I stated before.. totally good idea and well worth being a sticky. It should save a lot of time and hassle for people that need help and those giving it.
May 19, 2006 3:08:22 PM

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lol you do realise the type of people who need to read this never read any other posts in the first place. if they did then they wouldn't need to read it in the first place. a bit of a paradox all in all.



lol, brilliant!

While I agree w/ the heart and purpose of the thread, you are right man. If the offenders actually read any other posts then this would not be an issues at all.

...still, make it sticky as it cant do any harm... it just may not do much good ;) 
May 19, 2006 7:41:02 PM

Quote:
lol you do realise the type of people who need to read this never read any other posts in the first place. if they did then they wouldn't need to read it in the first place. a bit of a paradox all in all.



lol, brilliant!

While I agree w/ the heart and purpose of the thread, you are right man. If the offenders actually read any other posts then this would not be an issues at all.

...still, make it sticky as it cant do any harm... it just may not do much good ;) 


Here here! :-D

Mods: Sticky please!

Thank you!

To the authors: May I republish your post in other forums?

:trophy: :trophy: :trophy: :trophy: :trophy: :trophy: :trophy: :trophy: :trophy:

Thanks in advance! :-D
May 19, 2006 8:17:56 PM

YES YES AND YES! Whoever the heck voted no should be severely severely beaten with a stick dont you think so too?
May 19, 2006 10:03:55 PM

You (and anyone else that wants to) have my permission to publish this post on any forum you choose. You don't have to credit me or anything. I feel that it is something that can help out a lot of people on a lot of different sites and it is more important to get the message out that it is to have my name attached to it.
May 19, 2006 10:10:04 PM

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YES YES AND YES! Whoever the heck voted no should be severely severely beaten with a stick dont you think so too?


A stick? No, I don't think it calls for a stick. Maybe a sledgehammer, but definitely not a stick! :D 
May 19, 2006 10:34:32 PM

Yeah your right but i would take a crowbar they rip your skin off nice and even. :twisted:
May 19, 2006 10:46:32 PM

Nah chainsaw's are loud and messy get a crowbar it hurts in a whole nother way. :twisted:
May 20, 2006 1:18:50 AM

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We can use a "silenced" chainsaw.
I never seen one i saw a silent leaf blower but never a silent chainsaw.
May 20, 2006 7:05:05 AM

Is that all there is to it? I tried to click the link provided in that post and it says that it no longer exists. Has something like this already been made a sticky somewhere? If so, please provide me a link directly to the sticky.

I looked thoughout the Forumz for a sticky like this post and I couldn't find one. Maybe I was just looking in the wrong place.

Please let me know if you find one!

Thanx
May 24, 2006 5:46:18 AM

Bump.

Forget this "sticky" stuff. I say people should be required to pass a test on this material before they are given an account.
May 24, 2006 11:21:00 AM

Quote:
Bump.

Forget this "sticky" stuff. I say people should be required to pass a test on this material before they are given an account.


I agree!

Anyone breaking the rules will be advised to buy a Cyrix "Winchip" (remember those?) and that Banshee I still having lying around somewhere. That'd learn them.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
May 24, 2006 11:51:09 AM

I like it; but I fear that those people who do not follow these basic guidelines won't bother to read this thread; sticky or not. :( 
May 24, 2006 11:58:10 AM

Quote:
I like it; but I fear that those people who do not follow these basic guidelines won't bother to read this thread; sticky or not. :( 


Hence the suggestion by The_Rev. :wink:

As an alternative, if anyone posts a n00b thread then the next poster should just post a link to the sticky - nothing else. The OP will naturally click on it, thinking it's an answer to their query... maybe they'll read a couple of lines :wink:
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
May 24, 2006 12:10:05 PM

Quote:
I like it; but I fear that those people who do not follow these basic guidelines won't bother to read this thread; sticky or not. :( 


Hence the suggestion by The_Rev. :wink:

As an alternative, if anyone posts a n00b thread then the next poster should just post a link to the sticky - nothing else. The OP will naturally click on it, thinking it's an answer to their query... maybe they'll read a couple of lines :wink:

Agreed; thats very diplomatic; are you swiss? :) 
May 24, 2006 12:12:45 PM

No, there aren't many llamas in Switzerland. It has more of a goat vibe about the place. That, and purple cows really freak me out.
May 24, 2006 1:25:41 PM

Quote:
I like it; but I fear that those people who do not follow these basic guidelines won't bother to read this thread; sticky or not. :( 


Hence the suggestion by The_Rev. :wink:

As an alternative, if anyone posts a n00b thread then the next poster should just post a link to the sticky - nothing else. The OP will naturally click on it, thinking it's an answer to their query... maybe they'll read a couple of lines :wink:

I was just about to say that myself. Maybe if I put a link in my sig...
June 12, 2006 8:15:59 PM

Thanks for the Advice :p 
!