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Processor - AMD - Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core (3800+) 2.0 GHz $377

Motherboard - Asus A8N5X NF4 (Can this motherboard OC??) $103

Video Card - XFX 7900GTX EXTREME 675MHz $747

Ram - OCZ DDR2 2GB Kit PC-5400 667MHz $239

Hard Drive - WD Caviar SE SATA-II 200GB, 7200RPM $104

DVD Drives - Two LG BLACK DVD±RW (16X+/-) $104

Network Card - D-LINK 100/1000 PCI GIGABIT $35

Case - Thermaltake (Silver) VB1000SWS Soprano Case $106

Power Supply - Nikao Best Power 500Watt ATX $36

Floppy Drive - MITSUMI 3.5" Floppy / CARD READER 7-IN-1 $30

Speakers - Logitech X-230 2.1 3pcs Speaker System $58

Monitor - ACER AL1916B LCD (Black) 19" $314

Keyboard - Saitek Eclipse Gamers' Keyboard $59

Extras - ZALMAN CNPS9500LED (775/478/754/939/940) (HEATSINK) $65


I think it adds up to somewhere around $2300-$2400. Is this stuff worth the $$ and will the 7900 GTX be able to use directx 10 whe it comes out??
 
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Processor - AMD - Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core (3800+) 2.0 GHz $377

Motherboard - Asus A8N5X NF4 (Can this motherboard OC??) $103

Video Card - XFX 7900GTX EXTREME 675MHz $747

Ram - OCZ DDR2 2GB Kit PC-5400 667MHz $239

Hard Drive - WD Caviar SE SATA-II 200GB, 7200RPM $104

DVD Drives - Two LG BLACK DVD±RW (16X+/-) $104

Network Card - D-LINK 100/1000 PCI GIGABIT $35

Case - Thermaltake (Silver) VB1000SWS Soprano Case $106

Power Supply - Nikao Best Power 500Watt ATX $36

Floppy Drive - MITSUMI 3.5" Floppy / CARD READER 7-IN-1 $30

Speakers - Logitech X-230 2.1 3pcs Speaker System $58

Monitor - ACER AL1916B LCD (Black) 19" $314

Keyboard - Saitek Eclipse Gamers' Keyboard $59

Extras - ZALMAN CNPS9500LED (775/478/754/939/940) (HEATSINK) $65


I think it adds up to somewhere around $2300-$2400. Is this stuff worth the $$ and will the 7900 GTX be able to use directx 10 whe it comes out??
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Couple things:

1) If you want to overclock, get the Opteron 165 instead of the 3800+. You gain double the L2 cache right out of the gate, and it overclocks far better.

2) Meh Asus boards do not overclock that great, but some.. consider at least going to the A8N-E to gain SATAII and the Ultra chipset. Or if you want to overclock get the DFI Lanparty Ultra D. You picked an SATA II hard drive and a motherboard that does not support it. Another reason to change. :)

3) YIKES on the PSU. 500W for $36 CAD = CRAP. Get an Antec, its too important to spend $2500 and then flush it with a cheap crap PSU.

4) You don't need a network card, all current boards have them onboard. Some even have two.

5) Why do you need 2 DVD burners? Are you running a video production studio to rip off Netflix here? (j/k) Consider 1 DVD burner, 1 DVD-ROM.

6) No current card supports DX 10. They does not mean the 7900GTX will not be able to run it however.


Links:
Asus A8N-E

DFI Lanparty Ultra D

Right now- NCIX is offering overnight shipping for $8. Hard to beat that.

And while you are at it herei s your video card:
XFX 7900GTX Extreme for $679 instead of $747.
 
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lol, your post is a funny one:

1) are these prices in US$ or CAN$?

2) why are you getting DDR2 RAM for an AMD CPU processor even though it doesnt support it?

3) Getting 2 DVD Burners are better than 1 Burner/1Rom, its cause burners tend to last a lot longer than roms... *from experience

4) Get a better mobo that helps you overclock better, considering this comp is bout $2.5k and you might want to get SLI board

5) Is that PSU a generic one? Get something better, and also consider a higher Wattage one, maybe... 600W if you want to sli 7900 gtx

6) Get Logitech X-530 5.1 Speaker Systems - they are only a bit more expensive and you get more speakers and better quality

7) 7900 gtx cant use Dx10

8) Drop the network card, mobos should carry them, if they dont, they are really crappy mobos.

9) Just wondering where you are getting these stuff... cause i think they are kinda overpriced.
 
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If your in Canada, please do yourself a favor and go here: NCIX. Thats where I get all my stuff. They have weekly sales, good shipping deals, and even price matching :eek: Wow! :p and if your spending $2300 go get an x1900 at least and fix that psu
 
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thats a huuuuuuuuuuuge waist when conroe is coming out soon and socket am2 is out on tuesday. the 7900gtx is good, drop the mobo and get a msi k8nd diamond plus, then upgrade the cpu to a 4400+ or opty 175. if u have $2300 to spend, use it wisely.
 
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Processor - AMD - Opteron 165 Dual Core 1.8 GHz $327 / $367 CAD
- This processor can be easily overclocked to 2.4 on stock cooling and has twice the L2 cache

Motherboard - DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D $112 / $125 CAD
- Much better board for overclocking

Video Card - XFX 7900GTX Extreme 675MHz $496 / $557 CAD

Ram - Corsair XMS 2GB TXINX2048-3500LLPRO PC-3500 DDR 433 $235 / $264 CAD
- First off you cant use DDR2 with the board you are speaking of and secondly Corsair is the best memory available. The price specified includes a $25 manufacturer rebate available through May 24

Hard Drive - WD Caviar SE16 SATA-II 250GB, 7200RPM $89 / $100 CAD
- bigger and has twice the cache (16mb)

DVD Drives - 2 x NEC 16X DVD±R Black ND-3550A - OEM $74 / $83 CAD
- Has been the best drive on the market for the price for at least 2 years

Network Card - Not required unless you want to go wireless. The Motherboard I specified has not 1 but 2 internal LAN connections

Case - Thermaltake makes quality cases and ur choice is not bad. For silver look at the Tsunami VA3000SWA $105 / $118 CAD. Similar price but more front connections. If u are buying black drives and a black monitor why not go with a black case. My personal fav is the Armor VA8000BWS. It offers better cooling and is very sexy. $150 / $168 CAD

Power Supply - Silerstone SST-ST56F 560W $130 / $146 CAD
- The power supply is critical to your components lasting for a long time do not skimp on a cheap PSU. Tom's did a review on some PSU's recently and this was given their nod. ARTICLE

Floppy Drive - same drive cheaper price $20 / $22 CAD

Monitor - ViewSonic VX922 Black/Silver 19" 2ms LCD $270 / $303 CAD
- The only monitor if u enjoy gaming

Dont really feel like looking up speakers or keyboards so will just use ur choices. Total price comes in at $2040 USD / $2290 CAD before shipping. All u have to worry about is getting the product from US to Canada.

Also, think about buying at least two hard drives and running a raid 0 setup. A poor mans version of WD raptor's. That coupled with the above selection should make u a happy camper

The one last thing I will say is to think about waiting a couple more months before doing anything yet. AMD is in the process of releasing their AM2 motherboards/chipsets which will start supporting DDR2 memory and Intel is about to release their Conroe chipset which many are praising despite any actual proven benchmarks. Regardless, it should effect the currently available products pricing.

Hope this has been helpful

*edited to adjust for Canadien currencies
 
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That is waaaaay too much money for a 7900 GTX, what with 1900XT cards available for $450-ish....; good performance can be had at the $310 level from an 1800XT or 7900GT.....

As for Direct x10.0, no, the 7900 series is not capable of it....

I'd stand pat another month or so, and wait for a Conroe/Core Duo2 based rig, or, if Directx 10/Windows Vista is important to you, you can wait until Nvidia/ATI release their next gen (July/Aug?) which should be capable of Direct x10.0
 
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That is waaaaay too much money for a 7900 GTX, what with 1900XT cards available for $450-ish....; good performance can be had at the $310 level from an 1800XT or 7900GT.....

As for Direct x10.0, no, the 7900 series is not capable of it....

I'd stand pat another month or so, and wait for a Conroe/Core Duo2 based rig, or, if Directx 10/Windows Vista is important to you, you can wait until Nvidia/ATI release their next gen (July/Aug?) which should be capable of Direct x10.0
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I dobut it. It makes no sense to release DX 10 cards before Vista, when Vista will be required to even install DX 10.
 
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a 7900gtx wont cost that much
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190779&Category_Code=nvidia-PCI-E

first of all ddr2 memory dosnt work with any AMD motherboards yet, unless u buy am2

second any dx9 card will work with dx10, as long as ur card is dx9 capable
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/vistahardware.mspx#ENB

third, if ur not buying an sli mobo, a x1900xt or xtx cards are way better since they support HDR+AA and are much better in running shader heavy games

last, if u want to OC get an opty 165, even at stock speeds it out performs the x2 3800 in a bunch of games
 
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Yeah, the 1900xt's are very good cards, but whether all of this stuff is worth the $$, I wouldn't want to pay $500 more than I had to just to improve on performance that would already rock.
 
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The only thing I would recommend you to consider is bying two SATA drives for RAID0. Two of the ones that have 16MB of cache. Much better loading times, better response of the system. Better even than a single Raptor. And if you don't have any plans for SLI or Crossfire get an X1900XTX. Fastest single card.
 
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If you look under his avatar, it says he's from Dartmouth, Nova Scotia.

NCIX.com, memoryexpress and canadacomputers.com are sites you should be looking at. I live in Halifax during the school year, and I've looked around. No stores in NS can compare with these.

Everyone has good suggestions here. Listen to them. Do yourself a favour and wait a little bit. Prices will drop very shortly...it will be a great time to buy.
 
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You should wait for 6 more weeks, you will soon aquired the best cpu, the Conroe, cheaper and way faster then AMD with 64bit. Why build yesterday technology. Be patient and wait. $500 is a lot just for a CPU. Conroe is starting at $200 and benchies has beaten the FX-60 flat out by 20-40% in performance and uses less power. The Real Cool and quite.
 
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You should wait for 6 more weeks, you will soon aquired the best cpu, the Conroe, cheaper and way faster then AMD with 64bit. Why build yesterday technology. Be patient and wait. $500 is a lot just for a CPU. Conroe is starting at $200 and benchies has beaten the FX-60 flat out by 20-40% in performance and uses less power. The Real Cool and quite.
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going with this line of thinking why not just wait 6months and get a quad core....................or a year and get a quintuplecore.

Conroe is starting at $200 and benchies has beaten the FX-60 flat out by 20-40% in performance and uses less power
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LOL somebody else take this one, and if we are pulling out numbers from the magic hat i would say more like 50-100%
 
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come on man how can you compare a cpu that has been released to and tested by the public and truly benchmarked to one the just pre-production. Sure you can estimate performance but dont tell me about benchmarks till i can go out and buy one to repeat siad numbers.

If anyone has ever bought a sports car you know its the same thing with claims of performance.



NOTE: in that link there is no $200 conroe beating a fx60 not that i can see..............................If you want to maybe,just maybe i can see a oc'd $500 conroe doing it, but i looked high i looked low and even looked on google and i cant buy a $525 conroe anywhere.

2ND show me a stock (non oc'd)conroe benchmark. i really dont want to look go through 10 pages
 
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