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Anyone with experience using BCI-6 cartidges from INKGRABBER for the
Canon i960?
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  1. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 17:15:28 GMT, herbzee <her.ky@verizon.net> wrote:

    > Anyone with experience using BCI-6 cartidges from INKGRABBER for the
    >Canon i960?

    Use alotofthings because they use Formulabs ink in both their bulk and
    carts.

    They are rebuilding their web store right now and you can't do an
    online order so call them at 951-694-6300 and ask for Joe. I just got
    a double set of carts from Joe for the i960 last week (12 carts) and
    the cost was $38.95 +Shipping.

    You might be able to find the carts cheaper elsewhere, but do they
    contain Formulabs Ink is the question.

    Regards,
    TR
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    On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:36:09 -0800, TR wrote
    (in article <lo9h21p1vkfohi1tluerau7r3tgiibg19i@4ax.com>):

    > You might be able to find the carts cheaper elsewhere, but do they
    > contain Formulabs Ink is the question.

    I'm truly interested in what is so good about Formulabs ink. Has this been
    reviewed and compared to others? Or is this your personal experience?

    OCP is a German ink that is in wide use in Europe. I've been using it in
    Caboodle cartridges at local franchise stores here in the San Francisco bay
    area, USA.

    How do the 2 inks compare?

    Thanks for any info you can provide.
    --
    Please, no "Go Google this" replies. I wouldn't
    ask a question here if I hadn't done that already.

    DaveC
    me@privacy.net
    This is an invalid return address
    Please reply in the news group
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    In article <0001HW.BE4E29610020C5FEF02845B0@news.individual.net>,
    me@privacy.net says...
    > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:36:09 -0800, TR wrote
    > (in article <lo9h21p1vkfohi1tluerau7r3tgiibg19i@4ax.com>):
    >
    > > You might be able to find the carts cheaper elsewhere, but do they
    > > contain Formulabs Ink is the question.
    >
    > I'm truly interested in what is so good about Formulabs ink. Has this been
    > reviewed and compared to others? Or is this your personal experience?
    >
    > OCP is a German ink that is in wide use in Europe. I've been using it in
    > Caboodle cartridges at local franchise stores here in the San Francisco bay
    > area, USA.
    >
    > How do the 2 inks compare?
    >
    > Thanks for any info you can provide.
    >

    Im currently using Formulabs ink in both Canon and Epson printers (NOT THE
    SAME INK THOUGH!)

    I very happy with the result.

    Good color matching
    Snappy prints
    No more "clogs" than with OEM inks.

    So far:

    About a pint of each color through a Canon i960 and a canon ip4000

    About a half pint of each color through an Epson R200.

    LOTS of prints
    Very little trouble.

    I also have had very good results with ink from MIS Assosiates in Canon
    printers.


    --
    Larry Lynch
    Mystic, Ct.
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    Their eBay store is open and the prices are a little better than what was on
    their website.
    http://stores.ebay.com/ALOT-OF-THINGS_W0QQsspagenameZl2QQtZkm
    --
    Ron Cohen

    "TR" <spamtrap@spamhell.com> wrote in message
    news:lo9h21p1vkfohi1tluerau7r3tgiibg19i@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 17:15:28 GMT, herbzee <her.ky@verizon.net> wrote:
    >
    >> Anyone with experience using BCI-6 cartidges from INKGRABBER for the
    >>Canon i960?
    >
    > Use alotofthings because they use Formulabs ink in both their bulk and
    > carts.
    >
    > They are rebuilding their web store right now and you can't do an
    > online order so call them at 951-694-6300 and ask for Joe. I just got
    > a double set of carts from Joe for the i960 last week (12 carts) and
    > the cost was $38.95 +Shipping.
    >
    > You might be able to find the carts cheaper elsewhere, but do they
    > contain Formulabs Ink is the question.
    >
    > Regards,
    > TR
  5. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    Where can you get Formulabs prefilled carts and bulk ink other than
    alotofthings?

    Larry wrote:

    >In article <0001HW.BE4E29610020C5FEF02845B0@news.individual.net>,
    >me@privacy.net says...
    >
    >
    >>On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 10:36:09 -0800, TR wrote
    >>(in article <lo9h21p1vkfohi1tluerau7r3tgiibg19i@4ax.com>):
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>>You might be able to find the carts cheaper elsewhere, but do they
    >>>contain Formulabs Ink is the question.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>I'm truly interested in what is so good about Formulabs ink. Has this been
    >>reviewed and compared to others? Or is this your personal experience?
    >>
    >>OCP is a German ink that is in wide use in Europe. I've been using it in
    >>Caboodle cartridges at local franchise stores here in the San Francisco bay
    >>area, USA.
    >>
    >>How do the 2 inks compare?
    >>
    >>Thanks for any info you can provide.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >Im currently using Formulabs ink in both Canon and Epson printers (NOT THE
    >SAME INK THOUGH!)
    >
    >I very happy with the result.
    >
    >Good color matching
    >Snappy prints
    >No more "clogs" than with OEM inks.
    >
    >So far:
    >
    >About a pint of each color through a Canon i960 and a canon ip4000
    >
    >About a half pint of each color through an Epson R200.
    >
    >LOTS of prints
    >Very little trouble.
    >
    >I also have had very good results with ink from MIS Assosiates in Canon
    >printers.
    >
    >
    >
    >
  6. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:04:01 -0800, DaveC <me@privacy.net> wrote:

    >I'm truly interested in what is so good about Formulabs ink. Has this been
    >reviewed and compared to others? Or is this your personal experience?

    I started off on this same NG last June when I first got my new i960
    asking who, what & where is the best ink formula for this specific
    printer that would render best color-to-original results plus offer
    the least or no more wear and tear to the print heads than OEM ink
    does. Over and over on this NG came the suggestion to get Formulabs
    Bulk inks and make sure any 3rd party carts also contained Formulabs.

    Instead of me searching and bringing forward all those threads from
    the past 10 months, I think you probably have the same resources to do
    the search for all those threads yourself and suggest that you do so
    because you will find them rich with the information you require, just
    like I did when I was making up my mind as to who, what & where to get
    the best ink/carts for my specific printer.

    Also, I think there were a couple of other venders using Formulabs but
    can't remember who they were since I started with alotofthings and
    stuck with them. They just need to get that web site fixed.

    My personal experience is only between the original OEM carts and
    alotofthings carts(Formulabs) and bulk ink(Formulabs) and all I can
    say is that the Formulabs ink has rendered prints who's colors are as
    close to the originals scans as the OEM was and I have had ZERO clogs
    or flow problems and assume my print heads are not being abused.

    Its not my personal experience that is as important as all the
    information that was fed to me by people more in the know than myself
    that led me to using a vender that provides Formulabs Ink in the first
    place. Again, your will get better info, more in depth info, better
    technical data, etc... by doing that NG Thread search than you will
    get from a beginner as myself.

    Hope this helps,
    TR
  7. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    I emailed alotofthings last week to ask if their prefilled carts listed on
    their ebay site were filled with formulabs inks. They replied that the
    Arrow carts are filled with formulab ink and the Rainow carts are not. On
    another forum I read that alotofthings sends formulabs inks to China where
    the Arrow carts are filled with that ink and shipped back to alotofthings.

    "TR" <spamtrap@spamhell.com> wrote in message
    news:lo9h21p1vkfohi1tluerau7r3tgiibg19i@4ax.com...
    > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 17:15:28 GMT, herbzee <her.ky@verizon.net> wrote:
    >
    >> Anyone with experience using BCI-6 cartidges from INKGRABBER for the
    >>Canon i960?
    >
    > Use alotofthings because they use Formulabs ink in both their bulk and
    > carts.
    >
    > They are rebuilding their web store right now and you can't do an
    > online order so call them at 951-694-6300 and ask for Joe. I just got
    > a double set of carts from Joe for the i960 last week (12 carts) and
    > the cost was $38.95 +Shipping.
    >
    > You might be able to find the carts cheaper elsewhere, but do they
    > contain Formulabs Ink is the question.
    >
    > Regards,
    > TR
  8. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    Alotofthings.com is an excellent vendor to buy from. Great prices and
    customer service, but as TR noted the web site makes them look otherwise.
    Joe has left it up as an information resource and he's said that it should
    soon be back up to full function. As I noted in an earlier reply in this
    same thread, alotofthings has an eBay store that's alive and well. I put the
    link in that reply. I've seen the same post you refer to about them shipping
    ink to China. However, I have doubts about the accuracy of that. They are a
    U.S. vendor of Sensient-Formulabs ink. Unlike too many online vendors they
    actually list their real business address which is in Temecula, CA.
    Sensient-Formulabs is in San Diego so the two are located within a few miles
    of each other. Formulabs has a very interesting web site which will give a
    much better picture of the company than anything one of us may write in a
    newsgroup. Check out www.formulabs.com. This company has been around a very
    long time (way before inkjet printers) and is no Mom & Pop operation. They
    would be the ones shipping to China. I've also found www.arrowinkjet.com
    which appears to be the manufacturer of the Arrow cartridges (the Arrow logo
    on the cartridge box and the web site is identical).

    FWIW, I've used a variety of refill inks over the years and have had nothing
    to complain about (MIS, Atlascopy & Computer Friends). I just like dealing
    with alotofthings and the quality of the Formulabs ink has been first rate.
    When I got my latest iP4000 I printed several sets of reference photos and
    color charts using the OEM Canon ink tanks that came with the printer and
    then printed them again with refilled cartridges that I removed from the
    i950 I was giving to my daughter. The ink in those cartridges was bulk
    Formulabs ink purchased in late 2002. I also printed the same items using
    new Arrow cartridges I'd just received from alotofthings. That was three
    different sets of prints using ink from three different sources which were
    obviously manufactured at different times. All three sets were identical
    making it impossible to tell which ink was used to print them. The only way
    I can identify the source of the inks for each print is the notations I
    wrote on the reverse side of the paper. I've also used Rainbow carts that I
    got from www.tylermartin.com. Once again, no problem. Color was fine. Once
    empty, they were refilled with Formulabs ink and are still in my sets of
    refilled tanks that I keep in rotation.
    --
    Ron Cohen

    "Burt" <burtnle@pacbell.net> wrote in message
    news:FS9Wd.3570$C47.3347@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
    >I emailed alotofthings last week to ask if their prefilled carts listed on
    >their ebay site were filled with formulabs inks. They replied that the
    >Arrow carts are filled with formulab ink and the Rainow carts are not. On
    >another forum I read that alotofthings sends formulabs inks to China where
    >the Arrow carts are filled with that ink and shipped back to alotofthings.
    >
  9. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    Since you have had experience with several brands of aftermarket carts I
    would like to know your exprerience with refilling various carts. I have
    used the Computer Friends plugs on OEM carts with MIS inks but have not yet
    tried the Computer Friends inks as I had MIS inks that I have used
    successfully. I had purchased MIS empty carts and would echo Neil Slade's
    comment that the plugs are a pain! Do the Arrow carts have a fill hole
    similar to the OEM carts? I also recently purchased a starter refill kit
    from Hobi-colors, primarily to try their empty carts with the plastic screws
    to seal the fill hole. The Computer friends plugs with OEM carts are very
    easy to manage.

    Thank you for the very informative response regarding the several inks you
    have used.


    "Ron Cohen" <drc023@N^O+S~P^A^M.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    news:WgbWd.386$yp.137@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
    > Alotofthings.com is an excellent vendor to buy from. Great prices and
    > customer service, but as TR noted the web site makes them look otherwise.
    > Joe has left it up as an information resource and he's said that it should
    > soon be back up to full function. As I noted in an earlier reply in this
    > same thread, alotofthings has an eBay store that's alive and well. I put
    > the link in that reply. I've seen the same post you refer to about them
    > shipping ink to China. However, I have doubts about the accuracy of that.
    > They are a U.S. vendor of Sensient-Formulabs ink. Unlike too many online
    > vendors they actually list their real business address which is in
    > Temecula, CA. Sensient-Formulabs is in San Diego so the two are located
    > within a few miles of each other. Formulabs has a very interesting web
    > site which will give a much better picture of the company than anything
    > one of us may write in a newsgroup. Check out www.formulabs.com. This
    > company has been around a very long time (way before inkjet printers) and
    > is no Mom & Pop operation. They would be the ones shipping to China. I've
    > also found www.arrowinkjet.com which appears to be the manufacturer of the
    > Arrow cartridges (the Arrow logo on the cartridge box and the web site is
    > identical).
    >
    > FWIW, I've used a variety of refill inks over the years and have had
    > nothing to complain about (MIS, Atlascopy & Computer Friends). I just like
    > dealing with alotofthings and the quality of the Formulabs ink has been
    > first rate. When I got my latest iP4000 I printed several sets of
    > reference photos and color charts using the OEM Canon ink tanks that came
    > with the printer and then printed them again with refilled cartridges that
    > I removed from the i950 I was giving to my daughter. The ink in those
    > cartridges was bulk Formulabs ink purchased in late 2002. I also printed
    > the same items using new Arrow cartridges I'd just received from
    > alotofthings. That was three different sets of prints using ink from three
    > different sources which were obviously manufactured at different times.
    > All three sets were identical making it impossible to tell which ink was
    > used to print them. The only way I can identify the source of the inks for
    > each print is the notations I wrote on the reverse side of the paper. I've
    > also used Rainbow carts that I got from www.tylermartin.com. Once again,
    > no problem. Color was fine. Once empty, they were refilled with Formulabs
    > ink and are still in my sets of refilled tanks that I keep in rotation.
    > --
    > Ron Cohen
    >
    > "Burt" <burtnle@pacbell.net> wrote in message
    > news:FS9Wd.3570$C47.3347@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
    >>I emailed alotofthings last week to ask if their prefilled carts listed on
    >>their ebay site were filled with formulabs inks. They replied that the
    >>Arrow carts are filled with formulab ink and the Rainow carts are not. On
    >>another forum I read that alotofthings sends formulabs inks to China where
    >>the Arrow carts are filled with that ink and shipped back to alotofthings.
    >>
    >
    >
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    I approach refilling a little differently than most other users. Instead
    messing around with plugs and seals on the top of the cartridge, I make a
    small hole on the side of the reservoir about 3/16" from the top. I've used
    push pins (two holes needed this way - one for the syringe and the other for
    as an air vent), but drilling a hole with a 1/8" bit is better. On the last
    set I worked on I didn't have any bits handy so I used a #4 finishing nail.
    From now on I'll be using the nail to drill in the plastic tanks. No mess or
    chips to fall into the reservoir, which even if it did happen wouldn't be a
    problem anyway. If a ridge develops from making the opening it can be shaved
    off with a razor blade or X-Acto knife. There are various ways of sealing
    the opening. My preferred method is to use a small spot of duct tape. I
    prefer duct tape due to the heavy adhesive bond and thickness of the
    material. It doesn't leak and won't come off unless you remove it. The whole
    point to doing it this way (drill & fill) is that the cartridge remains
    essentially unchanged. The tape or seals on top are never disturbed and if
    the cartridge was performing ok prior to the refill then there isn't any
    reason that it wouldn't afterwards. It isn't a visually attractive method
    compared to using little screws or plugs, but I couldn't care less about
    appearances. I just want something that works and is easy to do. This method
    will work with any BCI-3 or 6 cartridge. OTOH, if I was using cartridges
    such as the Hobi-Colors or Computer Friends there wouldn't be a need to use
    the procedure I described since these are already refill friendly. I've seen
    the Hobi-Colors and like the idea of how they use a nylon screw. I'm going
    to send you a short PDF file I created describing (with pictures) my refill
    technique. In case you don't receive it, send me a private email so I can
    attach the file to the response.
    --
    Ron Cohen

    "Burt" <burtnle@pacbell.net> wrote in message
    news:LSnWd.11701$Pz7.6506@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
    > Since you have had experience with several brands of aftermarket carts I
    > would like to know your exprerience with refilling various carts. I have
    > used the Computer Friends plugs on OEM carts with MIS inks but have not
    > yet tried the Computer Friends inks as I had MIS inks that I have used
    > successfully. I had purchased MIS empty carts and would echo Neil Slade's
    > comment that the plugs are a pain! Do the Arrow carts have a fill hole
    > similar to the OEM carts? I also recently purchased a starter refill kit
    > from Hobi-colors, primarily to try their empty carts with the plastic
    > screws to seal the fill hole. The Computer friends plugs with OEM carts
    > are very easy to manage.
    >
    > Thank you for the very informative response regarding the several inks you
    > have used.
    >
    >
  11. Archived from groups: comp.periphs.printers (More info?)

    I did some tests. Personally, I prefer Image Specialists to either,
    but use OCP at the moment...except for the black, their BCI-6 black
    bronzes on Ilford Smooth and Epson glossy paper.

    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=12198835
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