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May 25, 2006 12:02:35 AM

My friend of mine wants to build a Sli computer soon. We have gone over a lot of products and came up with these two systems. In the end he cannot decide on which system to order because he is unsure of which is the best for gaming. I plan on building an AMD system next summer and being a current long time Intel user, I am stuck on the matter myself.


Below are the two systems we have put together. Feel free to give any suggestions on what to replace. Price is also a factor; he would like to spend at least $750. $800 may be pushing it though if needed.


NOTE: He only wants to use one video card at this time, then Sli it later. Is that a good idea?
NOTE2: He is also worried about the AMD venice processor. He is unsure if such a low priced processor is as good as the Intel 630's.



*Intel*


Intel Pentium® 4 630 Processor Prescott 3.0GHz, 800MHz FSB, Socket 775, 2MB Cache Retail $170.80

Asus P5ND2-SLI nForce4 SLI Intel Edition P4/Pentium D/Celeron 1066FSB LGA775 DDR2 ATX Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN, RAID/Serial ATA Retail $92.99

eVGA e-GeForce 7600 GT CO PCI Express 256MB GDDR3 Video Card w/DVI-I Retail $175.00

Corsair VS1GBKIT533D2 1GB Kit DDR2-533 PC2-4200 Value Select Memory Retail $84.80

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB Serial ATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer and Serial ATA Signal Cable Bundle $76.00

Coolermaster CAC-T05-UB Centurion 5 Mid Tower Case (Blue) Retail $60.00

NEC ND-3550A 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive (Black) OEM $40.99

Thermaltake W0070RUC TR2 Series 430W Power Supply Retail $39.99
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Subtotal $740.57 (ZipZoom)










*AMD*


AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Processor (Venice) Socket 939 Retail $105.90

Asus A8N-SLI nForce4 SLI Athlon 64(FX) Skt939 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN, RAID/Serial ATA Retail $113.95

eVGA e-GeForce 7600 GT CO PCI Express 256MB GDDR3 Video Card w/DVI-I Retail $175.00

Corsair VS1GBKIT400 1GB Kit DDR400 PC3200 CAS2.5 Value Select Memory Retail $81.90

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB Serial ATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer and Serial ATA Signal Cable Bundle $76.00

Coolermaster CAC-T05-UB Centurion 5 Mid Tower Case (Blue) Retail $60.00

NEC ND-3550A 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive (Black) OEM $40.99

Thermaltake W0070RUC TR2 Series 430W Power Supply Retail $39.99

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Subtotal $693.73
May 25, 2006 12:11:41 AM

Note1: NO thats a HORRIBLE idea especially with 7600s. Forget SLI unless you want to spend around $2000 on a system. Also ditch that motherboard (A8N-SLI), its horrible.

Note2: If you want a gaming system AMD is the king of the hill and makes Intel look rather silly at all levels. Go with a 3200+ or 3500+ and the Asus A8N-E motherboard. This will be a nice gaming system for now. The 7600 will find the end of its life much quicker than a 7900GT though.
May 25, 2006 1:15:24 AM

Can i please get another opinion plz. Ive checked the reviews for all the parts listed on newegg and the all have a excellent rating so some one with alot of gaming/pc knowledge plz give me some thorough feedback thx!!! Also in a Sli system can you just use 1 vid card untill you can get the other one??
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May 25, 2006 2:08:52 AM

newegg is awesome, but the whole rating thing is horrible, and reviews are the same, and yes you can run one gfx card on an sli board, and then add another later
May 25, 2006 2:35:32 AM

DO NOT go SLI unless you can get both video cards within 90 days of each other. If you're going to build a gaming rig now (now being within the next 1 or 2 months), go AMD. If you can wait, get one of Intel's Core 2 Duo (Conroe) chips when they come out around the end of the summer. Early benchmarks show Conroe beating everything AMD currently has out (note: these haven't been compared to AM2 chips yet AFAIK) into the ground. Don't even think about putting a 630 into a gaming system. If you insist on Intel... get at least a 930. The video is a problem too.... if you're serious about gaming, a 7600 just isn't going to cut it... not even in SLI.
May 25, 2006 3:24:00 AM

Any more opinions?? :D 
May 25, 2006 5:21:49 AM

Don't get SLI unless you are spending more than $1,500 USD. I'm building a PC soon and will probably spend $1,500 - $2,200 USD, in which case I will be getting two 7900GTs in SLI. Like everyone else said, get a 7900GT, much better than the 7600 and will last longer. I think an eVga GeForce 7900GT KO would do you well. Plus, eVga has it's step up program so you can upgrade to a DX10 card later. Don't look at the Newegg reviews either, the guys with bad reviews probably got the defective batch (15% of the KO cards. It's a problem with the RAM I think).

Go with AMD, they're way better. With your budget, don't go anywhere near the X2s.
May 25, 2006 5:33:10 AM

I just think the 7900 is just a bit to much to spend thats all. I would love to get the 7900 GT its a bit steep but i want to spend around 800 for everything. I'm a bit frustrated because ive been looking around forever!! To build this pc and i cant seem to make a decision.. I dont want to get my pc and make a mistake and regret it... can some one help me make a few decsions i want the best gaming pc possible for my 800 usd.. i would really like to get over the strain of looking its been a month or so on the decision :cry: 
May 25, 2006 2:06:11 PM

Thanks for the tips guys, I will go over this with him after work today.


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Why the Geforece 7900GT KO 256-P2-N564 model? The 256-P2-N563-AX model seems to have addition features than the newer one.




EDIT: Ok, here is the new list. What about the memory, good?






AMD




AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor (Venice) Socket 939 Retail ***Free Shipping*** 1 $185.00

Asus A8N-E nForce4 Ultra Athlon 64(FX) Skt939 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN, RAID/Serial ATA Retail ***Free Shipping*** 1 $96.99

eVGA e-GeForce 7900 GT KO PCI Express 256MB GDDR3 Video Card w/DVI-I & HDTV Retail ***Free Shipping*** 1 $279.99

Corsair VS1GBKIT400 1GB Kit DDR400 PC3200 CAS2.5 Value Select Memory Retail ***Free Shipping*** 1 $81.90

Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600JS 160GB Serial ATA II 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer and Serial ATA Signal Cable Bundle ***Free Shipping*** 1 $76.00

Coolermaster CAC-T05-UB Centurion 5 Mid Tower Case (Blue) Retail ***Free Shipping*** 1 $60.00

NEC ND-3550A 16X Double Layer DVD±RW Drive (Black) OEM ***Free Shipping*** 1 $40.99

Thermaltake W0070RUC TR2 Series 430W Power Supply Retail ***Free Shipping*** 1 $39.99
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Subtotal $860.86
May 25, 2006 5:23:12 PM

Overall nice system, but you can make a few changes:

1) You cna easily get away with a 3200+ which will save you some cash

2) Buy RAM in pairs so you can use dual channel memory. Either get 2 x 512 or 2 x 1GB. Buy matched pairs for the best performance. Corsair is a great brand tho.
May 25, 2006 8:04:05 PM

You all are so helpful, so egar to share information and advice. Thats why I love these boards, a true community helping each other :D 

My friend was talking about this all day. Hopefully these revisions will rest his soul lol.

@shadowduck

Ahh I didnt catch the memory part. Good eye, swore it was duel channel





The total of the semi final system for him comes out to the same price near. Ill show him the new list.
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