Look at the die shot. "Higher performance,power efficient 65nm AMD64 processor" and what it is covering. This mixed with anand's quote at the end of his article claiming AMD has 1 more trick up it's sleeve in the high-end.
I would also like to openly state that this is not a fanboy post from either side. Could it be Z-Ram based L3? Please openly discuss.
Look at the die shot. "Higher performance,power efficient 65nm AMD64 processor" and what it is covering. This mixed with anand's quote at the end of his article claiming AMD has 1 more trick up it's sleeve in the high-end.
I would also like to openly state that this is not a fanboy post from either side. Please openly discuss.
They are implying their .65u process is high performance.
And covering up a good section as well. This die shot is interesting though nonetheless because of the asymetrical design.
Copy paste.
I read the reply's below and saw that mention and thought i'd add it as well. It is not a copy and paste as you claim. Typed it from my computer in front of me just now.
AMD doesn't have an Emergency Edition. Their roadmap has not changed. They waited purposely for highe speed DDR2 (Corsair EPP 2-3-2-9). They don't need to be faster when Conroe comes out.
Intel lasted for 3 years with the crappiest platform ever (not a knock). With improvements based on K8L they will win back the desktop ---- as if that matters --- but if anyone saw the last Apache benchmarks they know 40% is not going to help. Everyone (analysts, insiders) knew that AMD could release 65nm this year.
They won't. I remember saying they realize that server share will get them business desktop share since servers are held to a higher standard. I myself don't think they should wait to update the core to K8L but hey one 8xx is up to twice the price of an FX and are sold in at least pairs, so they can make +4x the amount of an FX on each sale.
If you look closely at real world usage in games only FarCry was a clean sweep for Core2. I like X2 because i do a lot of programming on my machine and they are better at compiling.
Anyway, nowadays the video card is more important because Vista is pushing HD gaming so even if AMD releases core updates to FX/X2 it will be sceondary to a DX10 card. Plus AMD is responsible for MS moving ALL ITS APPS to X64 by next year.
EVen Apple used HyperTransport --- emphasis on "USED." AMD will be fine even if they don't overtake Conroe in a few months. Especially since people (Taiwan insiders) are saying they may get "bulldozed" by AMDs new Turion code-named Bulldozer.
Who cares anyway, all of this just keeps Johnny5 with input.
AMD can't release 65nm parts this year because AMD can't make 65nm parts in any sort of reliable quantity. Not because they just decided "we don't need to". that would be kinda stupid meow, wouldn't it?
If you look closely at real world usage in games only FarCry was a clean sweep for Core2.
Divx anyone? Not to mention that the other games were GPU limited.
I'm trying to think of the last time I needed to encode to DivX. I also don't think I want to turn down my resolution from 1280 to see how fast my proc is at 640 HQ in Quake 4. Let's just agree that everything now is bragging rights except for servers.
AMD can't release 65nm parts this year because AMD can't make 65nm parts in any sort of reliable quantity. Not because they just decided "we don't need to". that would be kinda stupid meow, wouldn't it?
I'm just telling you what has been in the wind. I would think they would wait so that Fab 30 and Chartered coould handle 90nm and Fab 36 would ramp up to do 65nm. Fab 36 has a 30,000 wafer per month capacity, so why rush it. They have until JULY before Core 2 release on the desktop and even then Intel can't stop selling P4s unles they want to throw away Dell's 3rd quarter ( they do have stock). I don't know what their yields are, but I also don't know what Conroe's yields are and Rahul Sood voodoopc.blogspot.com seems to think they may not be great.
The point is that both of these companies will be fine no matter what the consensus on Tom's is.
Again, there is no emergency chip. Dell has already paid for LOTS of 8xx chips at 1400-$2400. If these same chips were rebranded as FX62 they would lose 400-$1400 per chip.
AMDs bread is buttered on the 4Way side. They will keep the push up to get more server share. That will get more business deals than a chip that gets 4 seconds on SuperPi at 1M.
And covering up a good section as well. This die shot is interesting though nonetheless because of the asymetrical design.
Copy paste.
I read the reply's below and saw that mention and thought i'd add it as well. It is not a copy and paste as you claim. Typed it from my computer in front of me just now.
I'm trying to think of the last time I needed to encode to DivX. I also don't think I want to turn down my resolution from 1280 to see how fast my proc is at 640 HQ in Quake 4. Let's just agree that everything now is bragging rights except for servers.
The difference between 140 fps and 170 fps a game may be just bragging rights, but the difference between a 3 hr encode and a 2 hr encode is not only bragging rights, it's productivity.
And covering up a good section as well. This die shot is interesting though nonetheless because of the asymetrical design.
It's "asymetrical" because that's just a single-core.
Are you sure, I am not so sure.... it could be a real device or it could be a test chip -- if it is a test chip then it would make sense as many companies will put different circuits, packing densities in different quadrants in order to test all aspect of different products as they develop a process.
Hmmmmmmm.....
It's very similar to previous single-core die images. For example:
Any thought on what AMD's supposed secret weapon is? The inq reported 3.4ghz by the end of the year which would make sense after they ramp 65nm but i just cant see it happening. Its has to be either more cache somewhere or a suprise QC chip that'll fit into AM2.