Collection of AM2 and K8L Data!

[Action_Man]

Ok I've decided I'll do a AM2 and K8L thread. Its pretty much going to be the same as iterations conroe thread (but obviously about AMD cpus)

In this thread we'll cover AM2, K8L and whatever else AMD decides to release.

I've got things to do today but I'll start work on it tonight or tomorrow. So I'll make the various sections and if people want to PM me some links for the various sections I'd appreciate it and I'll give them credit.

AM2 Details

Benchmarks:

Xbit Labs.
Anandtech.
Extremetech.
Firingsquad.
Hexus.

Pricing:

Regular:

AMD Athlon 64 FX 62 - 2.8GHz - 64+64K L1 - 1MBx2 L2 - 125W - $1031
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ - 2.6GHz - 64+64K L1 - 512KBx2 L2 - 89W - $696
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ - 2.4GHz - 64+64K L1 - 1MBx2 L2 - 89W - $645
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ - 2.4GHz - 64+64K L1 - 512KBx2 L2 - 89W - $558
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ - 2.2GHz - 64+64K L1 - 1MBx2 L2 - 89W - $470
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ - 2.2GHz - 64+64K L1 - 512KBx2 L2 - 89W - $365
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ - 2.0GHz - 64+64K L1 - 1MBx2 L2 - 89W - $328
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ - 2.0GHz - 64+64K L1 - 512KBx2 L2 - 89W - $303
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ - 2.4GHz - 64+64K L1 - 512KB L2 - 62W - $290
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - 2.2GHz - 64+64K L1 - 512KB L2 - 62W - $189
AMD Sempron 3600+ - 2.0GHz - 64+64K L1 - 256KB L2 - 62W - $123
AMD Sempron 3500+ - 2.0GHz - 64+64K L1 - 128KB L2 - 62W - $109
AMD Sempron 3400+ - 1.8GHz - 64+64K L1 - 256KB L2 - 62W - $97
AMD Sempron 3200+ - 1.8GHz - 64+64K L1 - 128KB L2 - 62W - $87
AMD Sempron 3000+ - 1.6GHz - 64+64K L1 - 256KB L2 - 62W - $77

Energy Efficient:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Energy Efficient - 65W - $671 - ($26 price premium)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Energy Efficient - 65W - $601 - ($43 price premium)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Energy Efficient - 65W - $514 - ($44 price premium)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Energy Efficient - 65W - $417 - ($52 price premium)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Energy Efficient - 65W - $353 - ($25 price premium)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Energy Efficient - 65W - $323 - ($20 price premium)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Energy Efficient Small Form Factor - 35W - $364 - ($61 price premium)
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Energy Efficient Small Form Factor - 35W - $231 - ($42 price premium)
AMD Sempron 3400+ Energy Efficient Small Form Factor - 35W - $145 - ($48 price premium)
AMD Sempron 3200+ Energy Efficient Small Form Factor - 35W - $119 - ($32 price premium)
AMD Sempron 3000+ Energy Efficient Small Form Factor - 35W - $101 - ($24 price premium)

July 24th Price Cuts!

Thats right big price cuts are on after conroes release.

AMD Athlon 64 Dual-Core Processor Pricing

Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (socket AM2 only)
PIB: $696
24/7 Price: Price $403

Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (socket AM2 and 939)
PIB: $558
24/7 Price: $301

Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (socket AM2 and 939)
PIB Price: $365
24/7 Price: $240

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (socket AM2 and 939)
PIB Price: $303
24/7 Price: $169

AMD Athlon 64 Single-Core Processor Pricing

Athlon 64 3800+ (socket AM2 and 939)
PIB Price: $290
24/7 Price: $142

Athlon 64 3500+ (socket AM2 and 939)
PIB Price: $189
24/7 Price: $109

Athlon 64 3200+ (socket AM2 and 939)
PIB Price: $138
24/7 Price: $99

Athlon 64 3000+ (socket AM2 and 939)
PIB Price: $108
24/7 Price: $89

AMD Sempron Processor Pricing

Sempron 3400+ (socket AM2 and 754)
PIB Price: $97
24/7 Price: $87

Sempron 3200+ (socket AM2 only)
PIB Price: $87
24/7 Price: $77

Sempron 3000+ (socket AM2 and 754)
PIB Price: $77
24/7 Price: $67

Sempron 2800+ (socket 754 only)
PIB Price: $67
24/7 Price: $53

PIB = Processor In a Box. The usual package.

Power Consumption:

Regular:

FX = Max 125W
X2 = Max 89W
Athlon 64 = Max 62W
Sempron = Max 62W

EE:

X2 = Max 62W
X2 3800 EE SFF = Max 35W
A64 = Max 35W
Sempron = Max 35W

Articles about the architecture:

Arstechnica Article.

What's new?:

DDR2 support and virtualisation.

Performance Comparisons:

Release Date:

Already released!

Other details:

AMD to ditch 1MB AM2 cpus: Link.

K8L Details

So Far:

0. Native quad core
1. Hypertransport up to 5.2GT/s
2. Better coherency
3. Private L2, shared L3 cache that scales up.
4. Separate power planes and pstates for north bridge and CPU
5. 128b FPUs - see 14,15
6. 48b virtual/physical addressing and 1GB pages
7. Support for DDR2, eventually DDR3
8. Support for FBD1 and 2 eventually
9. I/O virtualization and nested page tables
10. Memory mirroring, data poisoning, HT retry protocol support
11. 32B instead of 16B ifetch
12. Indirect branch predictors
13. OOO load execution - similar to memory disambiguation
14. 2x 128b SSE units
15. 2x 128b SSE LDs/cycle
16. Several new instructions
17. Independently changeable core voltages

Coprocessors:
media processing
JVM/CLR acceleration
TOE, XML or SSL processing

Roadmap:

AMD Roadmap

Socket 939 and 754 End-of-Life Dates

AMD's 4x4 Enthusiast Platform

The new 4x4 platform will feature two dual-core chips coupled with a dual-socket capable motherboard. AMD will also be releasing a new enthusiast focused chipset for the market, which is designed to take non-ECC unbuffered DDR memory. The new motherboards will be AM2 based, and take new AM2 FX-62 and higher(whatever that means)

Suggestions are welcomed unless they're from fanboys, doing so will result in death. So will negative feedback of any kind.

Thanks to zarooch for several bits of info.

 

[denominator]

-25%-->25% Performance compared to socket939.

Heavily reliant on DDR2 Ram frequency.

Uses different socket 940 then previous 940 Opteron.

More power efficient then 939.

No drastic changes to base K8 architecture.

What else is there to moan about..

 

[shabodah]

Didn't you already start this thread? Does that mean you are having posts deleted now? PS - I've gone out of my way to reinforce many of your points and also side with you on the whole keyboard issue. You didn't have to be so rude to me. Even if you're an Intel Fanboy j/k

 

[K8MAN]

I'm hoping this thread doesnt turn into an icky sticky before june 1st when we are supposed to get the info.

 

[Cha0s]

Im going to be upgrading soon from Socket 754 Should I go with Am2?

 

[Heyyou27]

Thanks for the laugh, Action_Man.

 

[Action_Man]

What's so funny about it?

I'll update it this afternoon or tonight, depending on how well my football team plays.

 

[k2000k]

Atol your logic is scewed. I don't think an Intel fanboy would attempt to do a scholarly jumpingjackesque post about the AMD processor development. Honestly, I am surprised that Action man is doing this, but, I welcome it. Good hunting Action man

 

[gOJDO]

Yo man,

I like the way you shoot with words and your word hit rate. You might be an excelent professor. So professor, is this thread opened just to see how the fanboyistic regular crews will respond

Suggestions are welcomed unless they're from fanboys, doing so will result in death. So will negative feedback of any kind.

or it is becouse of the everything else written before?
I would like to learn something about the K8L and I will help you as much as I can to make this thread educational.

 

[Action_Man]

Damn people have low expectations in me. I'm doing this because we need it, just like we needed the conroe one. No-one wants to do it except for the AMD fanboys and they're (as we all know) idiots.

 

[Action_Man]

I've divided it into AM2 and K8L, the K8L section is done since theres little info ( nice and easy ) and the AM2 section is mostly done. I'll preview it later on today.

 

[gOJDO]

Lets ask for some stories from the HORDE. Maybe we can find something with clue and point

 

[noko]

PCstats has a review of AMD FX-62 (AM2). Which I done't see listed here.

Compaired to socket 939 same clock speed the performance is virtually the same. Interesting article all the same.

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1959

 

[Action_Man]

Bump, still not finished but its coming along.

 

[K8MAN]

I'll post this as a Rumour only. AMD seems to be gearing up for a stepping-stone revision with RevG and it will apparently have SSE opt's as well as a few other suprises right around conroe's release.

 

[Action_Man]

Ah good idea, a rumour section!

 

[Action_Man]

Thanks, other feedback and ideas would appreciated. More updates will happen today, either during my lunchbreak or when I get home.

 

[iterations]

Well done, this is very useful.

I would strongly recommend that you make a separate thread for K8L as I think it will be the useful thread in the long term. I know there isn't much info available now, but in a few months we should start to see some real data for it.

Since AM2 is just a socket update and DDR2 support in the IMC, and it is already released, I don't think we're going to see too many surprises about AM2.

Cheers!

 

[Heyyou27]

 

[gOJDO]

Why this thread is dead?
This thread should be revived and sticky.
Action_Man, move your a$$ and update this thread.
mods&admins make this thread sticky, pls.

10x

 

[Action_Man]

I've been busy, I'll be starting work on it once again next week.

 

[joset]

At last!
(must have been blind for a whole month...); well, never mind.
I think a symmetry-breaking-thread like this was really missing (so AMD's data...).


Cheers!

 

[Action_Man]

(world of warcraft)

 

[joset]

(world of warcraft)

Literally, I suppose?!

Here's an interesting link: "BIOS Settings for the Athlon 64 Platform
including AM2" (http://www.lostcircuits.com/advice/bios3/), The Complete Guide, sort of!


Cheers!

 

[Caboose-1]

I'd only suggest a sticky if this thread matures with it's info.