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May 30, 2006 3:28:00 AM

Ok, i've a bet with my dad, and he says dell is paying some other company to make their monitors for them (ideally Samsung). I disagree, so does dell make their own lcds or are they just rebranded???

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May 30, 2006 3:43:44 AM

from what i've heard, they seem to be rebranded
May 30, 2006 3:58:30 AM

I used to own a Dell CRT a few years back and it was made by another company, I think Mitsubishi but it has been a while. As far as I know, they do not make their own monitors.

Final Fantasy 7 fan? Loved that game, I think it ties for 1st place as my favorite in the series (9 being the other).
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a b U Graphics card
May 30, 2006 4:01:33 AM

Dell surely doesn't make the tubes and panels. There are only so many different ones that all the monitors share. Can't say for sure they don't have them assembled directly for them, but I feel they are probably made by other well known company's; basically rebadged.

For instance I don't know who made their Analog 18" that a buddy of mine has, but their digital 19's with the thin bezel at one time sure looked like my Samsung 191T at work with a different base.

But really these things are so tied together. Benq, Aopen, and a couple others are all basically the same parent company. SOmebody makes Rosewill for them, And again I would guess somebody(not Dell, and not the same somebody even depending on model) makes Dells too, and for a dirt cheap price. :roll:
May 30, 2006 4:07:33 AM

Here I got on the dell site and found this:

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FCC Declaration of Conformity


According to 47 CFR, Part 15 of the FCC Rules

* For the following named product :

COLOR MONITOR


(Category Name)


E171FPb / DELL


FP767


(Model No / Brand Name)


(Basic Model)


* Manufactured at :

1. BENQ Corporation

157 Shanying Road, Gueishan, Taoyuan 333, Taiwan, R.O.C.

2. BENQ Co., Ltd.

New District 169 Zhujiang Rd Suzhou Jiangsu, China


That is from the Dell site for the E171FPb Flat Panel monitor. Looks like that one was made by BENQ.

Dell E171FPb FCC Info
a b U Graphics card
May 30, 2006 4:19:10 AM

Good find! Makes it easy to check other models.

Seems BenQ makes their 24" widescreen also:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2405fpw/...

Samsung makes this 19"
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/1900fp/e...

Samsung also makes my 19" Flat CRT M992:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/M992/En/...

Edit: Ah, this is fun. My buddies 18" was made by LG electronics. Now thanks to you I know it all. And so can anyone else by going here: http://support.dell.com/support/systemsinfo/documentati...
May 30, 2006 4:51:01 AM

I used to work in B2B sales for Global Computer and that's how I found this out. There are only a few LCD monitor manufacturers out there. They make the LCD panels that the other companies that put them in their own enclorures. I remember late '03-early '04, the market that sold the LCD monitors to the end consumers (Dell, electronics stores, CDW, etc) depleted the world's supply by offering 17" LCDs at about $200 for the first time. It was because the demand was so high for the first time because of that price, everybody sold out. The price went back up. It was hard for us to get them in because the monitor manufacturers were backordered because they couldn't get the panels. The companies that make the LCD panels themselves are all in Aisa and do not sell to the consumer and we would not recognize their names.

Another thing, laptops are like this too. There are only a few laptop manufacturers out there too once again in Aisa. They will make a custom style for Dell or HP or whomever but they are all built for those companies by other non direct to customer companies. There was a time in about 2000-2002 where the only difference between a Systemax laptop and a Dell laptop was the sticker on it, they looked that similar. If I remember right there are only three companies that still make their own laptops and they are Lenovo (IBM), Toshiba and Sony.
May 30, 2006 5:40:11 AM

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Ok, i've a bet with my dad, and he says dell is paying some other company to make their monitors for them (ideally Samsung). I disagree, so does dell make their own lcds or are they just rebranded???


I guess the saying's true...Father knows best. :wink:
May 30, 2006 5:41:46 AM

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Ok, i've a bet with my dad, and he says dell is paying some other company to make their monitors for them (ideally Samsung). I disagree, so does dell make their own lcds or are they just rebranded???



Dell has used several vendors.

One of my dells ( an older 15 inch) is manufactured using an AU Optonics LCD element (made in china...suprise suprise) with BenQ electronics. I dont know who makes my newer Dell though, as Im not about to disassemble and void the warrenty


May 30, 2006 7:06:25 AM

dell in fact doesn't make a lot of their products. their printers are mostly made by lexmark last time i checked (hence why they rape ink and look like crap) and theres a bunch more, but a lot of it is rebranded and then they throw a big margin on it.
May 30, 2006 7:34:47 AM

A bit of a different spin, but what exactly DOES Dell make?... cases?... those are probably outsourced too.

-mcg
May 30, 2006 8:25:53 PM

I think dell makes the boards, like gpu and stuff and mobo but not much else.
May 30, 2006 8:40:39 PM

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Dell has used several vendors.

One of my dells ( an older 15 inch) is manufactured using an AU Optonics LCD element (made in china...suprise suprise) with BenQ electronics. I dont know who makes my newer Dell though, as Im not about to disassemble and void the warrenty


AU Optronics is a division of BenQ. They make the lcd panels.

Im surprised to see BenQ makes the much appraised Dell monitors. I just bought a BenQ FP93G 19" 6ms and couldnt be happier with it, especially at just over $200.

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I think dell makes the boards, like gpu and stuff and mobo but not much else.


I dont think so. I dont think dell makes anything. They just assemble the pc's, and configure them.
May 30, 2006 8:56:27 PM

What about the speakers??
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May 30, 2006 9:11:51 PM

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If I remember right there are only three companies that still make their own laptops and they are Lenovo (IBM), Toshiba and Sony.


Well HP/Compaq make their own, EuroCoom, and so do many others and I would think even Dell considering their sheer volumes alone which wold lose money if it was a non-owned source (consolidate building, outsource parts), probably the same for gateway. I doubt if cutting edge boutiques like Voodoo are rebranded either since along with Eurocomm they usually lead the marke in features. and people like Acer and ASUS would simply provide their own shell for you to build yourself. 3 Mfrs? I doubt it anymore.

It may have been the case that alot are re-branded, but many are ground up different. It's not like an LCD panel which is complicated to assemble, laptops are a combinaton of other people's MoBos, HDs, Ram, etc.
May 30, 2006 9:12:11 PM

A lot of Dell crt monitors were made by sony, any of them that say Trinitron :) 

Acer makes their own laptops I believe as well as for other companies.
May 30, 2006 9:15:12 PM

Altec Lansing, Klipsch, DTL, etc.

Dell doesn't "make" anything, not even their catalogues.
May 30, 2006 9:16:45 PM

I think Dell makes very little, if anything, in their own manufacturing processes. They take finished components and assemble them, just like your local computer store but with better badging. Because of their buying power they can often get special "made for dell" only products. I know from working at Sport Check (canadian sporting goods store) they used to get special branded Soloman skis with model names that only they carried (helped when they guaranteed the lowest price on IDENTICAL products, since there were none).
a b U Graphics card
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May 30, 2006 10:32:14 PM

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A lot of Dell crt monitors were made by sony, any of them that say Trinitron :) 


LOL!

Sony doesn't even make Trinitron anymore (or even CRTs at all for that matter) the Trinitron technology is carried on in the DiamondTron brand from Mitsubishi.
a b U Graphics card
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May 30, 2006 10:36:24 PM

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Dell doesn't "make" anything, not even their catalogues.


It all depends on how granular you want to get. What does 'making' mean. In a laptop's example assmebly of the parts from other companies would be making the laptop. Having someone else assemble the laptop and then put your sticker on it would be rebranding.

Getting to the granular level of the component makers never really ends, because then who makes the platter in the HD or who makes the resin for the plastic, or who mined the copper/gold for the wires etc.

Taken far enough everything is made by GOD and rebranded, since GOD made the BigBang and everything comes from that. :lol: 
May 30, 2006 10:55:17 PM

Not really, I had a Dell with an Asus M/B in it. As far as the GPU goes, they don't make them either, they are either built into the M/B or it is made by Nvidia or ATI or some other manufacturer.
May 30, 2006 11:06:58 PM

which companies make the projectors? They were at great prices before...
May 30, 2006 11:35:30 PM

Well, after reading this article, I grabed the dell 2001fpw

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2400&p=6

they said PhillipsLG makes the panel for Dell & Apple 20" wide screen.

And yeah, dell will sleep with anybody who's got the goods.

They've even stopped giving AMD the cold shoulder now... (yey)
May 30, 2006 11:44:11 PM

Ok, guess I meant "they don't manufacturer individual components, they just combine them"

When Dell stopped selling Trinitron displays they were still made by Sony, I have two of them. A Dell P1130 and D1025TM. Nobody can sell a display with Trinitron displayed on it that wasn't made by Sony, that's why it was named Diamondtron by Mitsubishi, check the wiki on this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitron

Sony still has Trinitron as a trademark even though the patent has expired.

I don't know if Dell ever sold Diamondtron's but if they did they would have been made by Mitsubishi.
May 31, 2006 12:30:11 AM

Its funny, I know most gamers dislike the concept of Dell (...and having a "cookie-cutter" rig). We'd purchased Dell for a long time at the US Agency I work for and they were quite a step above the other options in terms of model stability, performance, reliability, and service.

I've known for quite some time they they rebrand most, if not all, of their products, ...that doesn't pester me in the least.

My XPS 600 is a descent general purpose rig and it was built well, and its fast. Maybe its not as fast as your high-end gaming rigs, but its fast enough for me, especially since I'm not a gamer. I just edit and re-mix music and video, surf ...the usual stuff. I really like the MetroPlex case that my rig was built in...and for $1,499 back in December of '05 I think I got a good deal considering the 3-year anything-goes warranty.

I worry too much about whether or not my rig is going to get a scratch on it, or get dusty, etc. etc. If I spill coffee in it or it sneezes that cookie-cutter maker is going to fix it or replace it...for 2.5 more years.

They can re-brand all they want.
a b U Graphics card
May 31, 2006 1:12:39 AM

http://consumer.hardocp.com/article.html?art=OTI0LDEsLG...

Read that review and you will see a few of the many reasons we gamers/enthusiasts don't like Dell. Anyway, if you don't feel like reading it, at least skip to the conclusion and check out the ratings in categories like stability and support.

As a small time system builder who takes pride what the customer gets out of each build, I have some other reasons for disliking Dell. Not that they are all bad by any means.
May 31, 2006 1:17:05 AM

I had a 21" Dell monitor that was made by Sony. I figure they just put stuff like this out to bid and award contracts to whoever bid cheapest. Point is, whatever Dell had, you can probably buy elsewhere for less money. Doesn't mean that the Dell is bad, only that it isn't anything special.
May 31, 2006 1:32:06 AM

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I had a 21" Dell monitor that was made by Sony. I figure they just put stuff like this out to bid and award contracts to whoever bid cheapest. Point is, whatever Dell had, you can probably buy elsewhere for less money. Doesn't mean that the Dell is bad, only that it isn't anything special.


I dont know about the less money part, at least not 100% of the time. I replaced my old NEC 1830 18" LCD with a dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24" LCD Monitor. I couldnt find another 24" within $200 of what I paid (except an acer) and yes, it was new, not a refurb. Regardless of the specs, compared to say the Hyundai Q90, it still beat my old NEC in all areas by a significant margin and had excellent reviews at every site I checked, though I suspect many of the reviewers were on the dell payroll
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May 31, 2006 1:38:07 AM

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Nobody can sell a display with Trinitron displayed on it that wasn't made by Sony, that's why it was named Diamondtron by Mitsubishi, check the wiki on this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitron

Sony still has Trinitron as a trademark even though the patent has expired.


I know, but it's the tube professionals want not the name. And that's why the DiamondTrons are still the gold standard for photo/video. I work with an IBM P260 at work and love trinitrons. If my phillips at home ever goes I'll probably buy a Mitsubishi.

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I don't know if Dell ever sold Diamondtron's but if they did they would have been made by Mitsubishi.


I know, the point wasn't A vs B , but just that even Sony doesn't make CRTs anymore (remember it's about manufacturing), much to many people's disappointment, and the only thing left that's close is the Mitsubishi(s). So whle the technology isn't Mitsubishis invention, and it's a 'copy', it's nice they still make them.
May 31, 2006 1:40:22 AM

I can't argue with you. You know how your mind blocks out bad experiences. As I read that review it took me back to when my father got his XPS 200 and asked me to set it up. ...and the first thing I did was cripple and remove the bloatware.

On my primary rig, I didn't even fully boot into the OS with the bloatware. Once I was sure the power was good and the machine was okay I blew the partition away and re-installed the OS with little further thought...habbit.

I stick by the service we've had from Dell where I work and infer with the warranty I have that I'll be satisfied should I need it. With this said and with deeper thought its clearer why enthusiasts might stay clear of the likes of Dell and construct their own rigs or go to smaller botiques.

I do really like my current Dell rig, I don't think I could have got the level of hardware I have and the warranty support I did for what I paid had I built the system myself or botiqued it. We'll see how she continues to run.

...sorry to be so waaaay off topic, but thanks for the reminder/eye-opener.
May 31, 2006 1:42:48 AM

I totally agree, wasn't trying to start a vs match :) 

My primary monitor is a NEC MyltiSync FE1250 so I know what ya mean (apature grill of the same varity) :) 
May 31, 2006 2:32:11 AM

Everything Dell sells is rebranded. Many companys including sony makes there montiors. Printers are mostly made Lexmark. They make nothing. They rebrand better then anyone. But most companys rebrand. Sony doesnt even makes there own dvd-rw players, the rebrand them from Lite-on.
May 31, 2006 3:17:56 AM

I don't really think it is rebranding so much as Dell contracting Sony, et all to make the monitors and slap the Dell name on them for Dell.
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