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bombasschicken   05-30-2006 at 06:24:08 PM

couldnt you just get one of those mini freezers, and stuff your resivoir in there? get some quality antifreeze in there and watch your temps drop.. if your like me you have a fridge in your room with "drinks" in it anyways.. and its not too loud.. just more ambiant noise..

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turbo_mcgillicutty   05-30-2006 at 06:44:59 PM
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that is one approach to get a more effective water cooling solution but it brings up the problem of condensation. The water coming in will be about 35-40 deg F. That will chill the tubing and thus condensation will occur on the tubing and waterblock. That in turn will drip and fry your computer. If you insulate the tubing and waterblock, then yea, that is a good way to go. But you have to do a really good job insulating or poof....she is toast.

TM

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bombasschicken   05-30-2006 at 06:50:44 PM
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i guess i only figured the condinsation would stay on the inside of the fridge.. it would form on all the tubes too?

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bombasschicken   05-30-2006 at 06:53:24 PM
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i guess i only figured the condinsation would stay on the inside of the fridge.. it would form on all the tubes too?

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Pain   05-30-2006 at 07:37:20 PM
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There would be no condensation inside the fridge. Warm[er] water + cold air = no condensation...fog maybe, but no condensation. :wink:

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turbo_mcgillicutty   05-30-2006 at 07:44:20 PM
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i guess i only figured the condinsation would stay on the inside of the fridge.. it would form on all the tubes too?



yea, it would form on the tubes and waterblock. Kinda like a glass of cold water, softdrink, or beer on a warm day. Condensation forms on the outside of the glass, same concept.

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shawnlizzle =]   05-31-2006 at 06:27:27 AM
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you can do it if you want to kiss your computer and your fridge good bye. its been tried MANY times, i DOESN'T work.

if you want sub-ambient temps, get real phase change

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qwertycopter   05-31-2006 at 06:01:25 PM
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What if you instead installed your components inside a minifridge. :lol: :lol:

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shawnlizzle =]   06-01-2006 at 02:49:32 AM
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... its basically the same thing if not worse than putting your radiator in the mini fridge, since all your components will be starved of air flow

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wun911   06-01-2006 at 03:49:11 PM
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condensation only occurs when there is a temperature difference and there is moisture in the air.

turn the fridge to low.... ie make the fridge 10 degrees, room temp is maybe 22 degrees the difference in temperature is not that great so no condensation......

The little condensation that does occur can be evaporated with case fans.

the fridge idea is a great idea btw

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turbo_mcgillicutty   06-01-2006 at 04:36:07 PM
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The only problem with that is the room temp will vary as will humidity. Case temps will also be higher than room temp (mine are at least, usually about 30-32C in a 20-25C room). 10 Deg C is still below the dew point (right now in my area it is about 17deg C) so condensation will occur. Maybe not on all days condenstaion will occur but some it will. There also may not be much condensation, but all is takes is one drop of water and your machine is toast.

I agree with the fridge being a good idea if there was a way to guarantee that condensation will not be an issue.

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frostys   06-01-2006 at 05:04:20 PM
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Topic subject of the day!!! :trophy:

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jap0nes   06-01-2006 at 05:57:13 PM
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What if you instead installed your components inside a minifridge.


i think it would work.
put all the components inside the fridge, pull the cables out and seal the door. turn on the fridge and let it for a couple of hours so the components equalize their temperature inside the fridge. Then, you're ready to use your system. The problem is that you wont be able to open the fridge with the system running (to get beer, for example). You must shut it down first, take it off the fridge (condensation will form). Then you can blow the parts with a hair drier or something to remove condensation.

Theoretically it could work :P

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shawnlizzle =]   06-02-2006 at 04:52:32 AM
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it won't work with a fridge as the compressor is not powerful enough, if you can mod an air conditioner and use a water chiller, it is some what effective (though straight phase change is MUCH more efficient)

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wun911   06-02-2006 at 05:05:41 AM
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mmmmmm cold drinks and cold CPU what a combination!

when you do try this please tell us the results....

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RichPLS   06-04-2006 at 03:34:30 AM
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You could definitely rig up a solution using a refrigerator to cool the water from the radiator or reservoir. If you put it in the freezer part, then yes, you would have to insulate the lines inside your PC including the water block.
The fridge might not cause condensation, especially if you raise temp first.
You could also just run a water loop through the fridge, and have a simple heat exchanger as to just cool the water a controlled amount, even by insulating the exchanger if water is too chilled, until you get the right temp. And permanently, you could bore two holes in the wall, and not interfere with fridge operation.

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darkstar782   06-04-2006 at 04:27:26 AM
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Seal the CPU with silicon, use a powerful watercooling system and a Peltier.

In my experience most water cooling systems are limited more by the ambient air temp than anything else. Mine sits 5 degrees above whatever the ambient room temp is all the time.

The addition of a high powered peltier means that if the waterblock keeps the 'hot' side 5 degrees above room temp, the 'cold' side is 10 degrees below freezing :D

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