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Any recommendations re: economy internet phone service- Vonage / Skype
?

I have heard of Vonage, Skype etc ?
Which is most economical ?

We make between 6 and 12 hours of long distance calls per month.(mostly
US)

What service/plan is best for us ?

Any companies to avoid ?
Are all calls equally clear ? in terms of static ?

Also what headsets do to get. Would like to get a headset/phone that
gives clear reception. Prefer to avoid the static on the line.

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks
Anna

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anna <annabaum100@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Any recommendations re: economy internet phone service- Vonage / Skype?
>
> I have heard of Vonage, Skype etc?
> Which is most economical?

They have very different pricing models. Vonage is based on a higher monthly
fee that includes a base number of minutes (or, depending on the plan,
"unlimited" minutes), whereas Skype is pay-as-you-go.

Also, Vonage uses normal telephones, while Skype uses your computer.

And you cannot receive calls from normal phones with Skype - you need to
keep a regular phone line as well.

Another one to look at is Broadvoice, which has a wider range of plans than
Vonage but still lets you use a normal phone.

> We make between 6 and 12 hours of long distance calls per month.(mostly US)

At 3 cents a minute, 6 hours would cost you about $11 a la carte. 12 hours
would cost you $22. So a plan that cost much more than the average (say,
$16) would of course not be economical in your case.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 35 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu

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anna wrote:
> Any recommendations re: economy internet phone service- Vonage /
> Skype ?
>
> I have heard of Vonage, Skype etc ?
> Which is most economical ?
>
> We make between 6 and 12 hours of long distance calls per
> month.(mostly US)
>
> What service/plan is best for us ?
>
> Any companies to avoid ?
> Are all calls equally clear ? in terms of static ?
>
> Also what headsets do to get. Would like to get a headset/phone that
> gives clear reception. Prefer to avoid the static on the line.
>
> Any help would be highly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Anna

It would help to know in which country you are located. Also are the
people you call also on VoIP or do you need to call ordinary phone
lines..? Do you receive calls from them as well..?

I use www.sipgate.co.uk and it has for the most part been excellent. Call
quality is no different to a normal phone and with the hardware adaptor
(rather than using a PC with a headset) I can plug in a normal telephone
and unless you follow the cable when it comes out of the back of the phone
you can't tell it from a normal landline. It even has a normal phone
number in the same area code as my normal line.

Calls between users of the service are free, there are also agreements
with several other VoIP providers to give free calls also. Calls to the
public phone network do cost money of course but the rates are for the
most part very cheap, although this does vary country by country.

Hope this helps,

Ivor

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Miguel Cruz wrote:

> anna <annabaum100@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Any recommendations re: economy internet phone service- Vonage / Skype?
>>
>>I have heard of Vonage, Skype etc?
>>Which is most economical?
>
>
> They have very different pricing models. Vonage is based on a higher monthly
> fee that includes a base number of minutes (or, depending on the plan,
> "unlimited" minutes), whereas Skype is pay-as-you-go.
>
> Also, Vonage uses normal telephones, while Skype uses your computer.
>
> And you cannot receive calls from normal phones with Skype - you need to
> keep a regular phone line as well.
>
> Another one to look at is Broadvoice, which has a wider range of plans than
> Vonage but still lets you use a normal phone.
>
>
>>We make between 6 and 12 hours of long distance calls per month.(mostly US)
>
>
> At 3 cents a minute, 6 hours would cost you about $11 a la carte. 12 hours
> would cost you $22. So a plan that cost much more than the average (say,
> $16) would of course not be economical in your case.
>
> miguel

There's also VoiceWing and CallVantage, which is a flat fee with
unlimited long distance!

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mnc@admin.u.nu (Miguel Cruz) writes:
> At 3 cents a minute, 6 hours would cost you about $11 a la carte. 12 hours
> would cost you $22. So a plan that cost much more than the average (say,
> $16) would of course not be economical in your case.

And 3 cents/minute is already kind of high. Heck, you can get POTS
long distance for 2.75 cents/min from ECG.

There are quite a few places offering 2 cents/minute, and one or two
offering 1-cent-and-change. (off the top of my head gafachi and
nufone are 2cents, simple telecom is 1.7 is cents.) The important
thing to look for is folks that don't want you to buy a locked-up ATA
or phone that you can only use with them.

In my opinion, the best low cost, true voip, phone is the Grandstream
Bugetone 101 for ~$70. (While the sipura-841 for ~$85 has a much
nicer LCD, the sound quality just isn't there.)

-wolfgang
--
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Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

> mnc@admin.u.nu (Miguel Cruz) writes:
>
>>At 3 cents a minute, 6 hours would cost you about $11 a la carte. 12 hours
>>would cost you $22. So a plan that cost much more than the average (say,
>>$16) would of course not be economical in your case.
>
>
> And 3 cents/minute is already kind of high. Heck, you can get POTS
> long distance for 2.75 cents/min from ECG.
>
> There are quite a few places offering 2 cents/minute, and one or two
> offering 1-cent-and-change. (off the top of my head gafachi and
> nufone are 2cents, simple telecom is 1.7 is cents.) The important
> thing to look for is folks that don't want you to buy a locked-up ATA
> or phone that you can only use with them.
>
> In my opinion, the best low cost, true voip, phone is the Grandstream
> Bugetone 101 for ~$70. (While the sipura-841 for ~$85 has a much
> nicer LCD, the sound quality just isn't there.)
>
> -wolfgang

Does the "VoIP Phone" you speak of include the TA (telephone adapter or
the ATA , analog telephone adapter) ? - RM

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Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comcastTHROW.net> wrote:
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>> In my opinion, the best low cost, true voip, phone is the Grandstream
>> Bugetone 101 for ~$70. (While the sipura-841 for ~$85 has a much
>> nicer LCD, the sound quality just isn't there.)
>
> Does the "VoIP Phone" you speak of include the TA (telephone adapter or
> the ATA , analog telephone adapter) ? - RM

They are complete devices - basically, physical telephones with ethernet
ports.

www.grandstream.com

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 35 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu

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Miguel Cruz wrote:
> Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comcastTHROW.net> wrote:
>
>>Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>>
>>>In my opinion, the best low cost, true voip, phone is the Grandstream
>>>Bugetone 101 for ~$70. (While the sipura-841 for ~$85 has a much
>>>nicer LCD, the sound quality just isn't there.)
>>
>>Does the "VoIP Phone" you speak of include the TA (telephone adapter or
>>the ATA , analog telephone adapter) ? - RM
>
>
> They are complete devices - basically, physical telephones with ethernet
> ports.
>
> www.grandstream.com
>
> miguel

So can you plug them into your LAN and make calls to one another? What
happens if one user is transfering large files from one computer to
another? (i.e. how is QoS (quality of service) maintained?) -- RM

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Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comcastTHROW.net> wrote:
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>> They are complete devices - basically, physical telephones with ethernet
>> ports.
>>
>> www.grandstream.com
>
> So can you plug them into your LAN and make calls to one another?

Yes.

> What happens if one user is transfering large files from one computer to
> another? (i.e. how is QoS (quality of service) maintained?

It's maintained by your network infrastructure configuration. If you do
local routing you can prioritize any traffic you like. I would think that in
most small local networks this will not be an issue.

miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 35 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu

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If you'd prefer a non-voip, toll-grade LD provider at a mere 2½¢ per
minute total (US-Domestic), with no fees, no connect charges, no
membership, no lost/unused minutes and NO TAXES, you might want to look
into One Suite <http://www.onesuite.com>


In article <1107710135.771870.217940@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "anna"
<annabaum100@yahoo.com> writes:

>Any recommendations re: economy internet phone service- Vonage / Skype
>?
>
>I have heard of Vonage, Skype etc ?
>Which is most economical ?
>
>We make between 6 and 12 hours of long distance calls per month.(mostly
>US)
>
>What service/plan is best for us ?
>
>Any companies to avoid ?
>Are all calls equally clear ? in terms of static ?
>
>Also what headsets do to get. Would like to get a headset/phone that
>gives clear reception. Prefer to avoid the static on the line.
>
>Any help would be highly appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>Anna

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Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comcastTHROW.net> writes:
> Does the "VoIP Phone" you speak of include the TA (telephone adapter
> or the ATA , analog telephone adapter) ? - RM

It is like a normal phone but instead of an rj11 for your 2-wire
analog phone signal it has an rj-45 that you plug into an ethernet
jack.

http://www.grandstream.com/y-bt100.htm

The advantage over one of those ATA's is you can get better sound
quality. Talking between a pair of true IP phones quiet and clean
with no far-side echo.

-wolfgang
--
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Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comcastTHROW.net> writes:
>> Does the "VoIP Phone" you speak of include the TA (telephone
>> adapter or the ATA , analog telephone adapter) ? - RM
>
> It is like a normal phone but instead of an rj11 for your 2-wire
> analog phone signal it has an rj-45 that you plug into an ethernet
> jack.
>
> http://www.grandstream.com/y-bt100.htm
>
> The advantage over one of those ATA's is you can get better sound
> quality. Talking between a pair of true IP phones quiet and clean
> with no far-side echo.
>
> -wolfgang

I use an ATA-486 from the same company and so far the call quality has
been excellent. I have had 15+ minute conversations with friends in the US
that are indistinguishable from normal landlines in terms of quality.

The advantage over the phone you mention is I can plug any analogue phone
into it, such as a cordless handset. I can also plug a normal answering
machine or a fax machine in and use it as normal.

Ivor

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Miguel Cruz wrote:
> Rick Merrill <RickMerrill@comcastTHROW.net> wrote:
>
>>Miguel Cruz wrote:
>>
>>>They are complete devices - basically, physical telephones with ethernet
>>>ports.
>>>
>>>www.grandstream.com
>>
>>So can you plug them into your LAN and make calls to one another?
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>>What happens if one user is transfering large files from one computer to
>>another? (i.e. how is QoS (quality of service) maintained?
>
>
> It's maintained by your network infrastructure configuration. If you do
> local routing you can prioritize any traffic you like. I would think that in
> most small local networks this will not be an issue.
>
> miguel

Pretty cool. And you can move phones with people and not have to make
changes in the local exchange. When you call outside, how does your
provider 'provision' each phone?

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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> writes:
> The advantage over the phone you mention is I can plug any analogue phone
> into it, such as a cordless handset. I can also plug a normal answering
> machine or a fax machine in and use it as normal.

The down side is that you end of having two ratty-old telephone hybrid
transformers in series with hour audio path (one in the phone and one
in the ata). Each of them introduces a bit of echo and distortion.
With a voip phone you can eliminated all that.

-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/
Hate software patents? Sign here: http://thankpoland.info/

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Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> writes:
>> The advantage over the phone you mention is I can plug any
>> analogue phone into it, such as a cordless handset. I can also
>> plug a normal answering machine or a fax machine in and use it as
>> normal.
>
> The down side is that you end of having two ratty-old telephone
> hybrid transformers in series with hour audio path (one in the
> phone and one in the ata). Each of them introduces a bit of echo
> and distortion. With a voip phone you can eliminated all that.

I've not noticed anything like that here. Works fine, quality as good as
an ordinary landline, at least to my ears.

Ivor

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