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June 3, 2006 11:15:50 AM

Hi,

Since I have a limited budget, i would like to build a 500$ system. I'd be using in mainly for Counter-Strike 1.6, Surfing on the internet, chatting and basic applications. I would like to hit 100 constant fps in cs 1.6 too.

Here's what i came up with

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Core / Processor with Fan 146$

Asus GeForce 6600 128MB DDR PCI Express SLI VGA DVI TV Out 120$

ABIT UL8 ULi Socket 939 ATX Motherboard 70$

Maxtor DiamondMax 10 80GB 7200 8MB ATA133 OEM RoHS Compliant 70$


Corsair XMS Extreme Memory 512MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz 74$

Raidmax Ninja Black ATX Mid-Tower Case w/450 PSU 95$


Total: 575$

I'm sure this build need some changes, tell me what you think please.
By the way, this rig is listed in CAD dollars, but a good PC for 500$ USD is what i'm looking for.

Thank you :D 

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June 3, 2006 11:53:33 AM

Heres another computer i came up with:

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 146$
Asus A8N-E nForce4 Socket 939 ATX Motherboard 139$
MSI GeForce 6600 256MB DDR PCI Express 133$
Corsair Value Select Dual Channel 512MB PC3200 DDR Memory(2 x 256MB) 68$
Maxtor 80GB 7200 8MB ATA-133 OEM Hard Drive 70$
Just 4 PC 899 GAzelle Black & Silver ATX Mid-Tower Case with 450 Watt Power Supply 88$

It totals up to 644$ which is a little too much. What should i downgrade? I'd think mobo.
June 3, 2006 12:20:48 PM

yeah the mobo is rather expensive. Maybe you can get a gig of ram, it really is worth the money.

And in stead of a SATA disk you can get a IDE drive, they are less expensive and perform just as good. And maybe a cheaper case (unless the case is really important to you). And if you do change you case, then get one without a power supply and buy a decent power supply, like 350W-400W would be enough for that system.

If you want to OC your 6600 look for one with a good stock cooler, mine overclocked like hell :lol: 
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June 3, 2006 12:32:31 PM

Keep the Abit board. I'd go with the MSI video card. I'd also go with a SATA drive, and you can probably get a larger one for very little extra. How about a SAMSUNG SpinPoint P Series HD160JJ 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive. It's an excellent drive if you can get it. I'd do 1 GB of RAM. Patriot Signature Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory is a good value option.
June 3, 2006 12:39:58 PM

Go with a gig of RAM (at the expense of motherboard, I reccommend) and go with a SATA disk. They're no more expensive, and are faster. And the way forward.
June 3, 2006 12:47:38 PM

Go AM2 not 939. 939 is nearly obsolete. AM2 is no more expensive.
Those prices are way high, where from? Wouldnt recommend a ULI chipset either when you can have a nforce550 for less.
MoboMSIK9n-neonforce550http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130050
CpuA643000=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103639
Ram DDR2-800OCZ512X2http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227027
VideocardX1600pro256http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127201
HDWD80http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822135106
AntecCase350ATXhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129150
Total=$511.57
This is a much better system. Totally upgradeable when the new 65nm X2's come out and drop in price, you can drop one right in here. Although you may need to upgrade your power supply at that time.
June 3, 2006 1:24:09 PM

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Go AM2 not 939. 939 is nearly obsolete. AM2 is no more expensive.
That processor price is very high, where from? Dont use a uli chipset either.
MoboMSIK9n-neonforce550http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130050
CpuA643000=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103639
Ram DDR2-800OCZ512X2http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227027
VideocardX1600pro256http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127201
HDWD80http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822135106
AntecCase350ATXhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129150
Total=$511.57
This is a much better system. Totally upgradeable when the new 65nm X2's come out and drop in price, you can drop one right in here.


Have to agree with this set up. I have 2 Antec cases with the 350W PSU and have never had a problem with either although I don't do any heavy gaming. Plus it's easy enough to upgrade the PSU in the futrue if you eventually want/need to.
June 3, 2006 2:04:18 PM

Quote:
Keep the Abit board. I'd go with the MSI video card. I'd also go with a SATA drive, and you can probably get a larger one for very little extra. How about a SAMSUNG SpinPoint P Series HD160JJ 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive. It's an excellent drive if you can get it. I'd do 1 GB of RAM. Patriot Signature Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory is a good value option.


You can get a 250Gb HD for under 80 bucks.
June 3, 2006 2:10:13 PM

So your recommending he go with a Uli chipset, socket 939 and DDR400 for more money than nforce550, socket AM2 and DDR2-800??? 8O
June 3, 2006 3:44:15 PM

Damn, i can't find these pieces on tigerdirect.ca

help please
June 3, 2006 4:09:45 PM

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So your recommending he go with a Uli chipset, socket 939 and DDR400 for more money than nforce550, socket AM2 and DDR2-800??? 8O


Actually, all I mentioned was that he could get a 250GB HD for under 80 bucks.
June 3, 2006 4:14:48 PM

Why are you recommanding SDRAM? I thought it was obsolete.

should i really get ddr800 sdram??

another question, is 350watt enough for this kind of computer?
June 3, 2006 4:18:18 PM

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I found this processor to be quite cheap...

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Should i go with a P4? if yes, any good cheap mobo suggestions?


Stay away from P4 systems for gaming. I've had 2 (by suggestion of my dad) and they haven't performed like I wanted them too. My "HT" processor's HT won't even enable on my system. Stick with AMD.
June 3, 2006 4:52:14 PM

or just wait a couple of weeks for some CPU's prices to go down about 50 bucks or so.
June 3, 2006 4:52:29 PM

Quote:
I found this processor to be quite cheap...

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item...

Should i go with a P4? if yes, any good cheap mobo suggestions?


Thats a ripoff.

Should you get DDR2-800? Of course, its what all the next gen processors will utilize. That A643000+ will destroy that 2.8pentium and it's cheaper and it's on an upgradeable platform (AM2). 350w powersupply is sufficent for that system. However when you upgrade the processor or video card down the road you will need to upgrade the ps.
June 3, 2006 4:54:32 PM

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or just wait a couple of weeks for some CPU's prices to go down about 50 bucks or so.


What good is $50, when your platform is not upgradeable?
Go AM2 now with a cheap processor and DDR2-800 and your all set for the next gen thats being released such as 65nm X2.
June 3, 2006 5:00:38 PM

MSI K9N Neo-F Skt AM2 nForce 550 109$
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket AM2 150.00$
EVGA e-GeForce 6600 256MB DDR3 PCI-E 105.95$
OCZ 1GB DDR2 PC2-4200 Value Series Dual Channel OCZ25331024VDC-K 103.98$
Maxtor 80GB IDE Hard Drive 7200rpm 2MB Cache 54.98$
Antec SLK1650B 17" Tower Black 350W Power Supply 79.98$

Total: 600$ CAD

After reading your recommandations, i built this pc. I'll see what i can do to incorporate the ddr2-800

Question: CanComputer's prices are rediculously low compared to NCIX's. Why this price difference?
June 3, 2006 5:15:05 PM

I didnt see the part where you said you were in Canada. Those prices are steep. Do not get that ram you have listed. You need DDR2-667 or DDR2-800. Better to go with DDR2-800 now for future processor upgrade.
June 3, 2006 5:23:14 PM

Yeah, sorry i'm in canada.

So should i get what i listed, and change the ram for ddr2-800?
June 3, 2006 6:44:51 PM

Remember DDR2 need two sticks of RAM of the same type to work.
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