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June 3, 2006 5:47:55 PM

hey,


so i want to build a descent system around a silverstone case

[urlhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...]this one[/url]

and i have a couple questions,

im really looking at the d 805 which is dirt cheap and a dual core and maybe overcloack it a little bit (around 3.0 ghz maybe some more) also if u could suggest a decsent coller that will fit in the case i would like to build around

should i get this or go with a amd 64 3200 or 300 for socket am2,

then if u suggest an 805 is there any micro atx mb that can overcloack like i want, or for the am2 can i get a reliable board despite beign new technology

the for the gpu i was looking at this 7600gt

then i need suggestions on the cheapiest some what reliable psu that could support this

i already have the hd(80gb enough for me) memory(1gb) and cd/dvd drive

i would like to get between 400-500 dollars (dads paying for mb) i don't need a serious gaming machine (thats what a 360 is for) but i do want to play wow, bf2, and halo with out to much trouble, i do download a good amout of stuff like emulators, and do rip/encode dvds for psp use

thanks for any help i need it alot, about two weeks ago the most i new was how to transferparts form one case to another[/code]
June 3, 2006 7:18:59 PM

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im really looking at the d 805 which is dirt cheap and a dual core and maybe overcloack it a little bit

Why does everyone want to use that 805?
Look at the article, it runs very hot. Too hot. 130 idle -> 200 oc'ed or how was it?
It overclocks well, but functions even better as a room heater.
For a SFF pc, it's a very bad idea.

IMO:
If you already have DDR2 memory, then get an AM2 3200+ or a higher Sempron. With a TDP of 65Ws, they are much better suited to SFF pc, where low heat dissipation is critical.
June 3, 2006 8:09:24 PM

thxs for the advice,

again like i said i'm new to alot of this,

is there a big performance difference between the sempron 3600, and 64 3200 both am2,

and do i have to have ddr2 ram?
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June 3, 2006 8:47:22 PM

Before I begin, you forgot a "=" on your HTML code there, that is why it's garbled.

Here is what I think you should get:

Case

Your choice, yet rather pricey. Price = 147.99

Motherboard

A budget, yet good motherboard. Price = 66.99

CPU

This is a good CPU, good enough for encoding a few things. Going to go with Stock Cooling, unless budget permits in which we should upgrade. The regular stock coolers on AMD-CPU's are pretty good, you can get an all right OC, but I'm not sure the motherboard can.Price: 109.

GPU

Your choice, good choice. It isn't available, as of yet. Just wait a while. Price = 149.99

PSU

Cheap, Quiet. Price = 76.00

For the memory: Sell the 1GB you have now, for some extra cash. Then buy two of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

~Ibrahim~
June 3, 2006 9:14:58 PM

thank you for the advise i think im going to go with a little cheaper psu and get a non stock cooler for cpu,

and i had a good laugh over ur sig
June 3, 2006 9:25:03 PM

Quote:
Before I begin, you forgot a "=" on your HTML code there, that is why it's garbled.

Here is what I think you should get:

Case

Your choice, yet rather pricey. Price = 147.99

Motherboard

A budget, yet good motherboard. Price = 66.99

CPU

This is a good CPU, good enough for encoding a few things. Going to go with Stock Cooling, unless budget permits in which we should upgrade. The regular stock coolers on AMD-CPU's are pretty good, you can get an all right OC, but I'm not sure the motherboard can.Price: 109.

GPU

Your choice, good choice. It isn't available, as of yet. Just wait a while. Price = 149.99

PSU

Cheap, Quiet. Price = 76.00

For the memory: Sell the 1GB you have now, for some extra cash. Then buy two of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

~Ibrahim~


Bad advice on the RAM...PC3200? In an AM2 system, you need either

PC5400, or PC6400 to get any benefit of AM2, otherwise stick with a

s939 setup. Yes i think the 805D would be too hot for an SFF machine.

GL :) 
June 3, 2006 11:00:03 PM

am2 all the way baby. the tforce4 from biostar is good. the asus is decent m2npv or something like that.
June 3, 2006 11:54:17 PM

the helps been good,

(without it i would have a small $600 heater)

yea i think i am going to go am2 just so then i can upgrade in the future and downgrade to a 7600gs

one more question do they make am2 boards for the sempron?
June 4, 2006 12:22:34 AM

I'd go with this board for a budget AM2 mATX build: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Don't let anyone tell you Biostar boards aren't good. I've had plenty of experience with their boards over the last 8-10 years and they are a great value. We work on lots of older machines that are still humming along with Biostar boards.
June 4, 2006 1:21:15 AM

You mean do they make Sempron AM2 CPU's for AM2 motherboards, and yes. Good idea with the GS!

~Ibrahim~
June 4, 2006 3:07:12 AM

so this sempron would work with thismb ?
June 4, 2006 2:20:33 PM

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so this sempron would work with thismb ?


No, thats an AM2 processor and a socket 754 motherboard. AM2 is 940 pins so you might have considerable trouble getting that CPU working o.O.

Use this one: (it works)
Biostrar TForce 6100 AM2
June 4, 2006 6:40:50 PM

my bad must have linked the wrong one,

i don't know alot but i do know am2 and 742 don't work together
June 4, 2006 9:14:47 PM

Quote:

i don't know alot but i do know am2 and 742 don't work together


You have learned well, my young grasshopper. Does the pupil surpass the master?

haha, I'm just kidding! :D 

~Ibrahim~

P.S. Yes, this was a useless and uninformative post.
June 5, 2006 2:22:00 AM

thx for the help everyone,

particularly Ibriham
June 5, 2006 1:19:12 PM

You're welcome! :D 

~Ibrahim~
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