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June 6, 2006 8:33:32 AM

Will the 7600 GS AGP be released soon? And wat will be its price arnd abt?? Will it be muuch better than x1600 pro and 6600GT??

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June 6, 2006 10:41:11 AM

I hear it supposed to come out, but I don't know when. 7600GS is about same as X1600.
June 6, 2006 2:26:35 PM

The X1600 XT is about the same as the 7600 GS, slightly better than the 6600 GT.

The X1600 Pro is notably slower than the 6600 GT.
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June 6, 2006 2:41:06 PM

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The X1600 XT is about the same as the 7600 GS, slightly better than the 6600 GT.

The X1600 Pro is notably slower than the 6600 GT.

u sure the x1600 pro is slower than 6600GT??(except for nvidia favouring games like doom3 and quake4) I thought that they were very closely matched and the x1600 pro beats the 6600GT in newer games.(like oblivion,FEAR)
June 6, 2006 2:56:10 PM

The X1600 PRO is very crippled compared to the X1600 XT.

It is slower than the 6600 GT is almost every bench I've ever seen, in fact, I can't think of one game where it would win.
June 6, 2006 2:59:55 PM

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The X1600 PRO is very crippled compared to the X1600 XT.

It is slower than the 6600 GT is almost every bench I've ever seen, in fact, I can't think of one game where it would win.


well then have a look at this. U cant say the x1600 pro is not beating the 6600GT atleast 60-70% of the time.
benchmarks for x1600 pro and 6600GT
June 6, 2006 3:16:46 PM

I admit my perception of the X1600 PRO was off. It certainly seems alot better in these particular benches than I remember.

AOE3: 6600 GT wins
B&W2: 6600 GT wins
QUAKE: 6600 GT wins

COD2: X1600 PRO wins without AA, 6600 GT wins with AA

FEAR: X1600 PRO wins
Serious Sam: X1600 wins

When the X1600 was released it was a real dog. Maybe Ati has done some good driver work, there... still, I'll dig up some other benches to cross reference.
June 6, 2006 3:29:50 PM

well ofcourse it iwll be better than the 6660GT as for the x1600 i also think that it will be better it will probably be one of the best AGP cards out there
June 6, 2006 8:05:19 PM

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well ofcourse it iwll be better than the 6660GT as for the x1600 i also think that it will be better it will probably be one of the best AGP cards out there


well wat about the 7600 GS?? When released will it kick both x1600pro and 6600GT behind?
June 6, 2006 8:16:02 PM

well lets look at it the 6600GT already mostly beats the x 1600 so the 7600GS
should WOOP there @55
June 6, 2006 10:19:28 PM

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I admit my perception of the X1600 PRO was off. It certainly seems alot better in these particular benches than I remember.


Just another fine example of you shooting your mouth off when you dont know what your talking about. It's funny that the benchmarks that he showed you were from this very site :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
June 6, 2006 10:51:08 PM

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=545

I've posted this HIS X1600 pro AGP review link before; not sure if you saw it. Not a big name site, but at least it's ATI vs. ATI, so we can't cry fanboi. Surprisingly the X1600 pro spanked the X700 pro. And X700 pro is almost up to 6600GT caliber. Digit-life charts are not as kind to the X1600 pro (pci-e).
June 7, 2006 1:23:57 AM

Lol... Another fine example of Randalflagg Nvidioting his way to stupiddom.

Didn't you just accuse me of being an Ati fanboy in another thread?

Now you're criticising my opinion that the 6600 GT was better.

Idiot. Which is it, smart guy? Fanboy trash - so predictable. :lol: 
June 7, 2006 2:08:21 AM

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Lol... Another fine example of Randalflagg Nvidioting his way to stupiddom.

Didn't you just accuse me of being an Ati fanboy in another thread?

Now you're criticising my opinion that the 6600 GT was better.

Idiot. Which is it, smart guy? Fanboy trash - so predictable. :lol: 


Reported to moderator.
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2006 2:45:31 AM

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The X1600 PRO is very crippled compared to the X1600 XT.

It is slower than the 6600 GT is almost every bench I've ever seen, in fact, I can't think of one game where it would win.


Not to ge tinvolved in the side debate, :twisted: , but of course in Oblivion it would win if you consider playability (min fps) @ settings, plus the available options.

All in all alot depends on settings and measure.

IMO the X1600 series is still a big dissapointment, but considering the X1600P AGP is still usually much cheaperthan the GF6600GT AGP and the X1600XT is cheaper than the GF6600GT, it beats that market entrant, however.... there is the GF7600 series which makes it an easy win in PCIe, but it's still not in AGP yet as th title implies.
June 7, 2006 2:54:49 AM

My neighbor(an older guy) got his 7600GS PCI-E from Newegg today, and it performs pretty well. I could only overclock it 445/445(default400/400), but it plays NFS:MW and Fart Cry nicely(his two fav. games)...plus, it was only around $100 U.S.D(it's an eVGA model).

He upgraded from the Abit 9550(actually a 9600XT) that I got him for his birthday.

I think I used the ()'s too much in this post :?
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2006 3:02:32 AM

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My neighbor(an older guy) got his 7600GS PCI-E from Newegg today, and it performs pretty well. I could only overclock it 445/445(default400/400), but it plays NFS:MW and Fart Cry nicely(his two fav. games)...plus, it was only around $100 U.S.D(it's an eVGA model).


Yeah the GF7600 series in PCIe is killer. I think the X1600's in a sad position and that will be challanged once the GF7600 moves to AGP. If ATi isn't already moving to get the X1700 to market, then they will likely lose the summer mid-market to the GF7600 in both agp and PCIe. At least in PCIe they have the X1800GTO for some situations.

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He upgraded from the Abit 9550(actually a 9600XT) that I got him for his birthday.


Good choice for the original and the upgrade.

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I think I used the ()'s too much in this post :?


Not like anyone else does that (well only occasionally [as in whenever the need arises {not that this is one of those situations}]). :mrgreen:
June 7, 2006 3:03:55 AM

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Reported to moderator.


Awwwww.... did I huwt your widdle feewings? :roll:

Bring it on. I'd be more than happy to show a moderator your history of abusive one-sided postings.
June 7, 2006 3:10:09 AM

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Not to ge tinvolved in the side debate, :twisted: , but of course in Oblivion it would win if you consider playability (min fps) @ settings, plus the available options.


Yeah, I know. Check out the thread, I've already recanted that remark... the X1600 PRO is better than I thought based on the benches I've seen linked to in this thread.

Guess I haven't kept myself in the loop with the X1600 PROs performance, like I said on release I saw some really dismal X1600 benches, I guess Ati has improved X1600 performance some on the driver side, or I just simply got the wrong impression. Looking at it now it seems like a decent performer for the cash for sure.

I can't be perfect all the time. But I can learn from my mistakes anyway... :) 
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2006 3:19:22 AM

YEah no problemo, just my chance to say OBLIVION again. :twisted:

And while the X1600 is great for Oblivion, I'd still say that the GF7600 will be an easy winner for the AGP market once the GS and GT arrive, so ATi should be readying those X1700s if they have them. That's an attractive looking/sounding part, but it's not looking like there's much movement on that front. The X1800GTO is ok in PCIe, but still more expensive than the GF7600GT, and also and maybe more importantly, it's more expensive to make than the GF7600.

And selfishly, there's no attraction to an X1800GTO in laptops so I'd wish they hurry with that X1700 so I can enjoy Oblivion a little better on the road with HDR (Boom on MRX700 is 'ok'). :wink:
June 7, 2006 3:42:37 AM

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Not like anyone else does that (well only occasionally [as in whenever the need arises {not that this is one of those situations}]). :mrgreen:


You're always making fun of me :evil: 




:wink:
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2006 3:58:15 AM

OMFG! ROFLMAO! You still have that! :mrgreen:

Funny thing is I though YOU were making fun of my habit (check my posts) of using bracket everywhere so believe me I was thinking, ok ya' got me!

Oh man, that pic just made me laugh really hard (I'm serious TEARS!) :lol: 
June 7, 2006 4:19:22 AM

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OMFG! ROFLMAO! You still have that! :mrgreen:


I'm fanatical about keeping pictures :D 
June 7, 2006 5:25:00 AM

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YEah no problemo, just my chance to say OBLIVION again. :twisted:

And while the X1600 is great for Oblivion, I'd still say that the GF7600 will be an easy winner for the AGP market once the GS and GT arrive, so ATi should be readying those X1700s if they have them. That's an attractive looking/sounding part, but it's not looking like there's much movement on that front. The X1800GTO is ok in PCIe, but still more expensive than the GF7600GT, and also and maybe more importantly, it's more expensive to make than the GF7600.

And selfishly, there's no attraction to an X1800GTO in laptops so I'd wish they hurry with that X1700 so I can enjoy Oblivion a little better on the road with HDR (Boom on MRX700 is 'ok'). :wink:

hey now i am in a fix. Should i now w8 for the 7600GS to b released in july or just go on and buy the x1600 pro now 8O
June 7, 2006 3:14:30 PM

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YEah no problemo, just my chance to say OBLIVION again. :twisted:

And while the X1600 is great for Oblivion, I'd still say that the GF7600 will be an easy winner for the AGP market once the GS and GT arrive, so ATi should be readying those X1700s if they have them. That's an attractive looking/sounding part, but it's not looking like there's much movement on that front. The X1800GTO is ok in PCIe, but still more expensive than the GF7600GT, and also and maybe more importantly, it's more expensive to make than the GF7600.

And selfishly, there's no attraction to an X1800GTO in laptops so I'd wish they hurry with that X1700 so I can enjoy Oblivion a little better on the road with HDR (Boom on MRX700 is 'ok'). :wink:

hey now i am in a fix. Should i now w8 for the 7600GS to b released in july or just go on and buy the x1600 pro now 8O

*bump
June 7, 2006 7:22:42 PM

I have a X1600 Pro 512 and it plays BF2, FEAR, etc. just fine- just not at the max settings. Depends on what you want. However my sons 6800GS is a fair bit faster for only $180 so get that if you can't find a 7600 in AGP. Or just wait a few months for DirectX 10 cards.
a b U Graphics card
June 7, 2006 10:31:23 PM

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hey now i am in a fix. Should i now w8 for the 7600GS to b released in july or just go on and buy the x1600 pro now 8O


I don't like waiting, and no one knows for sure when the GF7600 AGP cards might see the light of day. But if you don't NEED to upgrade right now, then it's worth waiting a few weeks 'til something firms up. But you could be waiting a long time if the rumours turn out to be false.

If you want to play right now, then buy the X1600Pro, game until the GF7600 or something better comes out, then sell the X1600 for probably a small loss, and then upgrade.

Depends on your tolerance for risk and dissapointment.
June 8, 2006 8:58:16 AM

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hey now i am in a fix. Should i now w8 for the 7600GS to b released in july or just go on and buy the x1600 pro now 8O


I don't like waiting, and no one knows for sure when the GF7600 AGP cards might see the light of day. But if you don't NEED to upgrade right now, then it's worth waiting a few weeks 'til something firms up. But you could be waiting a long time if the rumours turn out to be false.

If you want to play right now, then buy the X1600Pro, game until the GF7600 or something better comes out, then sell the X1600 for probably a small loss, and then upgrade.

Depends on your tolerance for risk and dissapointment.
i just figured out that i have just enuff money to lemme buy the x800GTO. Now i need to play now so the 7600GS is outta the contention. So shld i buy the x800GTo and will it play FEAR and other games like Doom3, HL2, Quake4, TOCA3 much better than x1600pro?? (not oblivion or GRAW coz my cpu is a bottleneck)
a b U Graphics card
June 8, 2006 9:24:41 PM

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i just figured out that i have just enuff money to lemme buy the x800GTO. Now i need to play now so the 7600GS is outta the contention. So shld i buy the x800GTo and will it play FEAR and other games like Doom3, HL2, Quake4, TOCA3 much better than x1600pro?? (not oblivion or GRAW coz my cpu is a bottleneck)


Yes the X800GTO will play better than the X1600Pro. Now IMO the resale value of the X1600Pro will remain intact a little better, but for gaming purposes the X800GTO will outplay the X1600P in the vast majority of cases, but you just might forgo some features like OpenEXHDR i games like Oblivion/AOE3/etc.

I'd say for gaming your best choice is the X800GTO. If you're going to upgrade within a year though you may consider the X1600P, just a thought.
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