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First off this thread is not intended to cause any kind of flame war. To all that think AMD has an answer to Intel's Conroe architecture, you are dead wrong. There won't be any answer to Conroe for a very long time. Intel has put forth a very aggressive road map, and AMD has been quiet. True AMD has ruled supreme the last few years but that is only because Intel didn't really care about having the better architecture. Intel still had all the sales their chips were in everything. Finally Intel decides to beat AMD and boom, here we have Conroe. In actuality there is no reason for Intel not have the performance crown. They could have beaten AMD anytime they wanted. It's Intel were are talking about here. Sure AMD makes good chips but they are small time when next to Intel. Intel is now refocused which is bad news for AMD.

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Nitwit your already asking for a flame war. So grow up and smell the coffee.

Reply to AtolSammeek

Please change that thread title to "Official THG Flamewar Thread." I think it would be more suiting.

Reply to Caboose-1
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I'm glad this is the truth, now my life is complete.

Reply to Pain

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Please change that thread title to "Official THG Flamewar Thread." I think it would be more suiting.



Also when launching a flame war it is most appropriate to use the following key words

1. OMG
2. n00b
3. Pwns!!!

Reply to TheMaster
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I just wanted to be able to say I posted in the Official Flame War Thread.
WOW! I feel great now! :lol:

Reply to itguy

I can feel the fires burning already.

Reply to elpresidente2075
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Intels new marketing catch phrase:

Conroe. I know you are, but what am I?

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Also when launching a flame war it is most appropriate to use the following key words

1. OMG
2. n00b
3. Pwns!!!



Actually, any word beggining with a 'K', 'A', 'C' or 'I'...

Reply to joset

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Intels new marketing catch phrase:

Conroe. I know you are, but what am I?

AM2 replies: Sit your ass in Cherry Pie!

Reply to Caboose-1

Could we please stop bumping this thread.

Everyone who posts after me in this thread is officially gay.

Reply to Action_Man

Well it is very very hard to create even a decent thread in Toms forums. If I learned anything here and many other forums, that Tom's forums is a safe Haeven for fanboys of either group. So no, you will not get much an intelligent convo here.

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It's difficult to bump a thread that is already at the top.

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Well it is very very hard to create even a decent thread in Toms forums. If I learned anything here and many other forums, that Tom's forums is a safe Haeven for fanboys of either group. So no, you will not get much an intelligent convo here.



That's not true. But, there is no reason to try to have an intelligent discussion from intentional flamebait, so why not just have fun with it? There are plenty of other threads where a lot of thoughtful discussion occurs.

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I just wanted to be able to say I posted in the Official Flame War Thread.
WOW! I feel great now! :lol:


Hey LMM, this is great challenge for you. It is an excelent to prove how good AMD are. This guy seems as much ignorant as you are. It will be hard to say who will win this FW.

Reply to gOJDO
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Nitwit your already asking for a flame war. So grow up and smell the coffee.



couldnt have said it better...well.....maybe replace nitwit with dumbass, or f*ckin dumbass, or ban him from the forums...i dunno...my opinion

Reply to pengwin

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I just wanted to be able to say I posted in the Official Flame War Thread.
WOW! I feel great now! :lol:


me too, me too!

Reply to djkrypplephite

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Intel rev'ed their core at the usual cadence, it is natural that they would shoot for higher performance.

It can be assumed that AMD is aiming for lofty performance with K8L, and given the talent of their design team they will acheive it, Intel will then need to answer.



I think the bottom line is that it's much more fun to just sit back and enjoy. I'm not educated enough to understand the intrcacies of the design and engineering, but these evolutions are all opportunities to learn. Fan boyz want a winner but what they don't seem to grasp is that it there ever really is a winner, the consumer will lose.

Reply to clue69less
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AMD Vs. Intel is just like Ford Vs. Chevy. Waiting for Conroe is kinda like waiting for Chevy's Camaro. Its always gonna be a feud and its threads like this that bump up the excitement. I am an Intel person even though AMD has been on top for a while. I hope Conroe is what its being hyped up to be.

Reply to scorch

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AMD Vs. Intel is just like Ford Vs. Chevy. Waiting for Conroe is kinda like waiting for Chevy's Camaro. Its always gonna be a feud and its threads like this that bump up the excitement. I am an Intel person even though AMD has been on top for a while. I hope Conroe is what its being hyped up to be.

Ford sux my ballz.

Reply to Caboose-1

It just amazes me that a lot think that AMD is the greatest and that they will get the crown back, they are so small next to Intel. Intel can beat them anyday of the week. They knew for years that Netburst was weaker than AMD's offering at that time. Intel does what it wants, they are going to beat AMD for a long time to come, or until they feel the need to relax.

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i agree ford sux, chevy is ok, Acura pwns, so does infiniti, and lexus, along with massive pwnage from BMW. mercedes and jag's are old ppl cars

Reply to pengwin
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sure...so what's your point faInTELboy? opinionated?

Reply to amdeath
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actually jags remind me of old ppl because of how they "sag" u kno what i mean?

http://www.autobytel.com/images/carpics/TestDrv/wardlaw/03XType/03.XTypeSport.rear34.OEM_400.jpg


well maybe not this one but the bigger ones, they kinda arch and look saggy..

Reply to pengwin
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Greatest? in terms of what? say, can you make a company and steal market share from currently GREAT GIGANTIC player? A Hat to AMD...

Say...if you have a company, will you let your competitor steals your market share??? your reasoning is totally unlogical.

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Intel can beat them anyday of the week

??? WTF? Do you think that they (Intel) can easily play with their shareholder money? Wow, this IS the first time in my life to see that a company based their decision emotionally, instead of rationally.

No wonder you're being amazes...

Reply to amdeath

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First off this thread is not intended to cause any kind of flame war. To all that think AMD has an answer to Intel's Conroe architecture, you are dead wrong. There won't be any answer to Conroe for a very long time. Intel has put forth a very aggressive road map, and AMD has been quiet. True AMD has ruled supreme the last few years but that is only because Intel didn't really care about having the better architecture. Intel still had all the sales their chips were in everything. Finally Intel decides to beat AMD and boom, here we have Conroe. In actuality there is no reason for Intel not have the performance crown. They could have beaten AMD anytime they wanted. It's Intel were are talking about here. Sure AMD makes good chips but they are small time when next to Intel. Intel is now refocused which is bad news for AMD.

Discuss




So you mean Dell was kidding and Opteron 8XX doesn't rule? Wow, I guess they really don't want those crappy Socket Fs, huhn?

Reply to BaronMatrix
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It took Intel two years to change course. Unless AMD has secret plans in the works and hasn't been telling the industry analysts or Wall Street analysts about future plans, it may take them just as long to change course.

Intel while it hasn't been transparent, has announced a aggressive every two year new architecture plan. Intel is spending alot of money to create these new architectures. Can AMD spend dollar for dollar with Intel?

Reply to xcetera

Pengwin you're barely old enough to drive. :?

I'm generally a Ford man myself.

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I just wanted to be able to say I posted in the Official Flame War Thread.
WOW! I feel great now! :lol:


Hey LMM, this is great challenge for you. It is an excelent to prove how good AMD are. This guy seems as much ignorant as you are. It will be hard to say who will win this FW.
gOJDO, you are and will always be a dumbass hack. Stay safe riding on the short bus.

Reply to itguy
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i've driven a BMW. the rest i have sat in, very nice cars.

Reply to pengwin

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Pengwin you're barely old enough to drive. :?

I'm generally a Ford man myself.

ZOMGWTFBBQINGH@XX0R. fORD Is tEh sUXX0rZ!!!!!112111oneneeleventeeseven sHEVROLAY iS tEH pWNZ uR!!!!!! I think we should pollute this thread as much as possible, that way it will get locked faster.

Reply to Caboose-1
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pollute?, with what? car talk?


thats not pollution, BMW is greater than ALL. it turly is THE Ultimate driving machine.

until you have driven one...well just go get a test drive at the BMW dealship.

Reply to pengwin

First off this thread is not intended to cause any kind of flame war. To all that think INTEL has an answer to AMD's AM2 architecture, you are dead wrong. There won't be any answer to AM2 for a very long time. AMD has put forth a very aggressive road map, and INTEL has been quiet. True INTEL has ruled supreme the last few years but that is only because AMD didn't really care about having the better architecture. AMD still had all the sales their chips were in everything. Finally AMD decides to beat INTEL and boom, here we have AM2. In actuality there is no reason for AMD not have the performance crown. They could have beaten INTEL anytime they wanted. It's AMD were are talking about here. Sure INTEL makes good chips but they are small time when next to AMD. AMD is now refocused which is bad news for INTEL.

Discuss

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pollute?, with what? car talk?
thats not pollution, BMW is greater than ALL. it turly is THE Ultimate driving machine.
until you have driven one...well just go get a test drive at the BMW dealship.


No way! BMW's suck! You havn't driven anything until you feel the exquisite road bumbs of the xB and have it slam you back in your seat as it's 102HP powerhouse roars under the hood.

Admins, feel free to lock this thread anytime.

Reply to itguy

Sorry guys, GMC Vans all the way :D

Reply to elpresidente2075

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pollute?, with what? car talk?


thats not pollution, BMW is greater than ALL. it turly is THE Ultimate driving machine.

until you have driven one...well just go get a test drive at the BMW dealship.

I bet if I massively overclocked a Ford Fiesta with phase change it would beat to hell anything BMW has to offer.

Reply to Caboose-1

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First off this thread is not intended to cause any kind of flame war. To all that think INTEL has an answer to AMD's AM2 architecture, you are dead wrong. There won't be any answer to AM2 for a very long time. AMD has put forth a very aggressive road map, and INTEL has been quiet. True INTEL has ruled supreme the last few years but that is only because AMD didn't really care about having the better architecture. AMD still had all the sales their chips were in everything. Finally AMD decides to beat INTEL and boom, here we have AM2. In actuality there is no reason for AMD not have the performance crown. They could have beaten INTEL anytime they wanted. It's AMD were are talking about here. Sure INTEL makes good chips but they are small time when next to AMD. AMD is now refocused which is bad news for INTEL.

Discuss

I agree, Pineapples are good.

Reply to Caboose-1
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OMG!!! so you've drove ALL the CAR ever manufactured in the world??? Gee...then why don't you go outside drive your BM's? Why need to hang around here? Fake said you? oke.

Reply to amdeath

Awww, someone is voting us all down. Wonder who it could be.... Honestly, your were seriously asking for it when you posted this thread. Not only is is flame-bait, you are a newbie.

Reply to Caboose-1
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There you have my cents :)

Reply to amdeath
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It just amazes me that a lot think that AMD is the greatest and that they will get the crown back, they are so small next to Intel. Intel can beat them anyday of the week. They knew for years that Netburst was weaker than AMD's offering at that time. Intel does what it wants, they are going to beat AMD for a long time to come, or until they feel the need to relax.


No, you are wrong Redeemer. AMD is not the greatest, Jesus is!!!

Rejoice

Reply to itguy

This thread started dumb, and got worse really fast. I'm actually surprised that it got almost 2 whole pages, much less in less than 3 hours. Thank goodness for not taking that guy seriously!

Reply to elpresidente2075
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It just amazes me that a lot think that AMD is the greatest and that they will get the crown back, they are so small next to Intel. Intel can beat them anyday of the week. They knew for years that Netburst was weaker than AMD's offering at that time. Intel does what it wants, they are going to beat AMD for a long time to come, or until they feel the need to relax.


No, you are wrong Redeemer. AMD is not the greatest, Jesus is!!!

Rejoice

So...among Intel, AMD, VIA, IBM,..., and Jesus; Jesus is the greatest?

Man, hell must be full these days. Have to ask Jesus to move to 300mm. Unfortunately, they can't do "90nm to 65nm".

Reply to amdeath
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Redeemer is this the gun that i get in UT2004?congratulations, u have just created a flame war.

anyway, just go home and sleep ok. this is not the place for you. you are posing wrong information.

Reply to edwuave

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Redeemer is this the gun that i get in UT2004?congratulations, u have just created a flame war.

anyway, just go home and sleep ok. this is not the place for you. you are posing wrong information.

I agree, strawberry jelly does make good thermal paste.

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