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June 8, 2006 10:20:43 PM

I need a new computer, but I don't have any clue what I'm doing so...

Here is what I need it to do:
-Play games, don't really need high quality
-Photoshop, Flash, and Dreamweaver with ease
-Run maya, but dosen't have to be completly smooth
-I'm not planning on overclocking
-Anywhere from 1000-1600 Including paraphrials (monitor, keyboard, mouse, printer/scanner).

Specs that I want:
-2 gig ram
-video card that has dual screen support, one of which being an S-video or component video output
-Large Main harddrive
-I was thinking of adding a second hard drive that is smaller but higher -quality for scratch disk and virtual memory
-19-21" flat screen monitor
-Audio component output



So any advice? I already looked around at other threads, but none of them where exactly what I wanted, and I wasen't going to steal someone elses thread =P.

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June 9, 2006 12:47:20 AM

would u prefer to use as little of the 1600, or full out best system pushing the budget limit?
June 9, 2006 12:54:51 AM

Quote:
I need a new computer, but I don't have any clue what I'm doing so...

Here is what I need it to do:
-Play games, don't really need high quality
-Photoshop, Flash, and Dreamweaver with ease
-Run maya, but dosen't have to be completly smooth
-I'm not planning on overclocking
-Anywhere from 1000-1600 Including paraphrials (monitor, keyboard, mouse, printer/scanner).

Specs that I want:
-2 gig ram
-video card that has dual screen support, one of which being an S-video or component video output
-Large Main harddrive
-I was thinking of adding a second hard drive that is smaller but higher -quality for scratch disk and virtual memory
-19-21" flat screen monitor
-Audio component output



So any advice? I already looked around at other threads, but none of them where exactly what I wanted, and I wasen't going to steal someone elses thread =P.


Alright... lets see what we have here..

AMD X2-4000+ AM2
2GB DDR2-800 (Corsair or OCZ)
Pretty much any video card lets you run dual screens, and most any has S-Video output. For component output, look at one of the ATI All-in-Wonder cards.
300-500GB SATA II drive with 16MB cache
36 or 74GB Raptor drive for OS, VM, and scratch
Basic sound card

I am guessing thats USD. You can do all of that for 1600 pretty easily.
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June 9, 2006 1:15:57 AM

Thanks duck, will any motherboard do since I'm not overclocking? I don't need component AND S-video, I would like some advice on which graphics card, becuase I don't really see the point of getting a really high quality one, but I don't want to end up with something that won't run photoshop/games well.

And, firepyro555 I don't really want to spend that much, but I can for whatever reason, like if a 1000 is going to crap out in a few years I would rather get a nice 1600 one, also I'll go for quality over price, but I don't want to go overkill with the limited stuff I need to do.


Oh, and for the TV I have a CRT TV. From what I've heard that's not going to allow text to show up well, but I'm willing to go extra on the video card to get the best picturre with my TV.
June 9, 2006 4:10:52 AM

Motherboard:
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard
Procesor:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2000MHz HT 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
Memory
CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) System Memory
Video Card:
XFX PVT42EUDE3 6800 XTreme 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
Hard Drives:
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000KS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFDRTL 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
DVD Player
ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM ATAPI/E-IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A2 BK
DVD Burner:
ASUS Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM DVD-ROM: 16X max. (CAV) DVD-RAM: 5X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2M Cache E-IDE/ATAPI 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Write
Floppy:
NEC Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model FD1231H-302
Case:
KINGWIN SK-523SW Silver Aluminum front bezel, SECC chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Monitor:
Wise Wing W902DB Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor DVI 300 cd/m2 500:1 0.294mm Pixel Pitch
Printer:
EPSON Stylus CX3810 C11C612001 Up to 18 ppm Up to 5760 x 1440 optimized dpi using RPM® on various media InkJet MFC/All-In-One Color Printer
Speakers:
Creative Inspire 290 5 W 2.0 Speaker
Total: $1,750

A bit over the budget I wanted, but it's still fine, the prosecor and hard 500gig drive seem alot more expensive then I thought they would be (both of which I figured would be between $100 and $200). How much does AM2 do for this system? I think I might go ahead and upgrade later if I do get AM2 though, since there will be alot of options in the future. I don't know much about the extra's like printer and monitor so I went ahead and posted those too in case there might be some problem with it.

I'm still missing a sound card, cooling systems, power supply, and a few wires etc. So can someone tell me what I need on those? For sound card I want component output, but I coulden't find what that is listed under on newegg.
June 9, 2006 4:26:13 AM

Intel 940, 7900GT, and 2Gb of ram would be a good start. I know you said that it doesn't need to be high quality but this is very good deal and more bang for the buck. The rest would be up to you.
June 9, 2006 4:39:07 AM

Quote:
Intel 940, 7900GT, and 2Gb of ram would be a good start. I know you said that it doesn't need to be high quality but this is very good deal and more bang for the buck. The rest would be up to you.

I agree; the Intel dual-cores are so cheap now that the AMDs just don't make sense. Unless they drop the prices of the dual-core AM2 chips like they did with the single cores.
June 9, 2006 4:49:59 AM

Quote:
Motherboard:
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard
Procesor:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2000MHz HT 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
Memory
CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) System Memory
Video Card:
XFX PVT42EUDE3 6800 XTreme 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
Hard Drives:
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000KS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFDRTL 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
DVD Player
ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM ATAPI/E-IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A2 BK
DVD Burner:
ASUS Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM DVD-ROM: 16X max. (CAV) DVD-RAM: 5X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2M Cache E-IDE/ATAPI 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Write
Floppy:
NEC Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model FD1231H-302
Case:
KINGWIN SK-523SW Silver Aluminum front bezel, SECC chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Monitor:
Wise Wing W902DB Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor DVI 300 cd/m2 500:1 0.294mm Pixel Pitch
Printer:
EPSON Stylus CX3810 C11C612001 Up to 18 ppm Up to 5760 x 1440 optimized dpi using RPM® on various media InkJet MFC/All-In-One Color Printer
Speakers:
Creative Inspire 290 5 W 2.0 Speaker
Total: $1,750

A bit over the budget I wanted, but it's still fine, the prosecor and hard 500gig drive seem alot more expensive then I thought they would be (both of which I figured would be between $100 and $200). How much does AM2 do for this system? I think I might go ahead and upgrade later if I do get AM2 though, since there will be alot of options in the future. I don't know much about the extra's like printer and monitor so I went ahead and posted those too in case there might be some problem with it.

I'm still missing a sound card, cooling systems, power supply, and a few wires etc. So can someone tell me what I need on those? For sound card I want component output, but I coulden't find what that is listed under on newegg.


Get the 4000+ since it comes with 1MB cache per core, that will help you with your applications. Also make the following changes:

Motherboard to:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=ENE&N=2010200022+1070921489&Subcategory=22&description=&srchInDesc=&minPrice=&maxPrice=
Saves $30

CPU to 4000+ (not on Newegg yet- but its $320ish)
Saves $50

Memory to:
OCZ CLS 4 DDR2-800
Adds $40 after MIR- $70 up front.. AM2 does not perform with a crap on DDR2-667. CLS4/DDR2-800 is vastly better.

Video Card: ok not bad

Hard drives: First one is fine, you can get away with a 74GB raptor and save money here

DVD player/burner: Fine

Case: your call

PSU: Going to have a tough time using your system without one.
Antec Smartpower 500W
$69

Monitor: Holy hell thats cheap

Printer: Going to pay $11 to ship it, you are probably better off picking it up at your local bigbox store. Cheap printers are a bad idea, they kill ink and you rebuy the printer everytime you buy ink. Consider getting a better model.

Speakers: Wont argue wit hyou

Sound Card: the motherboard has good onboard sound, you might can get away with out one.

AM2 basically gives you future expandability to go to 65nm CPU in Dec or 2007 which SHOULD improve performance. IT also lets you use quad core CPU (Q1 07 ETA) which for your uses WILL cause huge performance gains.
June 9, 2006 4:51:06 AM

Quote:
Intel 940, 7900GT, and 2Gb of ram would be a good start. I know you said that it doesn't need to be high quality but this is very good deal and more bang for the buck. The rest would be up to you.

I agree; the Intel dual-cores are so cheap now that the AMDs just don't make sense. Unless they drop the prices of the dual-core AM2 chips like they did with the single cores.

When AMD spanks Intel as badly as they do right now, they have a right to charge a little more! lol
June 9, 2006 5:06:59 AM

Quote:
Motherboard:
ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard
Procesor:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2000MHz HT 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
Memory
CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) System Memory
Video Card:
XFX PVT42EUDE3 6800 XTreme 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
Hard Drives:
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000KS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFDRTL 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
DVD Player
ASUS Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM ATAPI/E-IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DVD-E616A2 BK
DVD Burner:
ASUS Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM DVD-ROM: 16X max. (CAV) DVD-RAM: 5X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 40X CD-ROM 2M Cache E-IDE/ATAPI 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Write
Floppy:
NEC Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model FD1231H-302
Case:
KINGWIN SK-523SW Silver Aluminum front bezel, SECC chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Monitor:
Wise Wing W902DB Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor DVI 300 cd/m2 500:1 0.294mm Pixel Pitch
Printer:
EPSON Stylus CX3810 C11C612001 Up to 18 ppm Up to 5760 x 1440 optimized dpi using RPM® on various media InkJet MFC/All-In-One Color Printer
Speakers:
Creative Inspire 290 5 W 2.0 Speaker
Total: $1,750

A bit over the budget I wanted, but it's still fine, the prosecor and hard 500gig drive seem alot more expensive then I thought they would be (both of which I figured would be between $100 and $200). How much does AM2 do for this system? I think I might go ahead and upgrade later if I do get AM2 though, since there will be alot of options in the future. I don't know much about the extra's like printer and monitor so I went ahead and posted those too in case there might be some problem with it.

I'm still missing a sound card, cooling systems, power supply, and a few wires etc. So can someone tell me what I need on those? For sound card I want component output, but I coulden't find what that is listed under on newegg.


For this setup, if u go with a skt 939, it will save u alot because uu can get a really nice dual core AMD, a good mobo thats not as expensive, and you won't waste your money on DDR800 that performs worse than DDR400 right now because the timings are sooo high. Also, unless your planning on doing major DVD copying, your not gonna need a DVD-RW and a DVD ROM, thats just really not necessary. If you drop some of this stuff, you can get a more decent and more current GPU thats better than this POS..Maybe a 7600GT. Also, for the price on that monitor, you can get one that has more ratings and more reviews from a company that someone knows

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

This one is a nice 19" Widescreen with a 4ms response time and its 202 after rebate.


If DVI input isn't a big thing then
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1682...

i'm using this one and it works really nice, nice color and a great picture
June 9, 2006 5:14:06 AM

What about this for the ram?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231073

The numbers all seem the same, and it's in stock, and I really need to order this within next day or two (right now I have a laptop that I have to return so ><). And look how cool that one looks, with the shiney blue =P.

I got the 74gig HD now, thought I had it the first time guess I just misclicked.

I didn't realize that was a cheap printer ><, I guess I could pick one up at the store, I figured it would be cheaper online, and also I could get it with rest of the stuff. Do you have any suggestions on printers on newegg?

The sound card I want becuase I want to be able to plug the computer into my stereo, I have surround sound and I'd like to be able to play games on that without having to buy a surround sound speaker set just for the computer. If the onboard has component out then that's fine but I don't see anything on it that indicates that it does. And if I can't get component out I'm getting much better speakers then those crappy ones I picked out.

And last thing, What cooling and wires do I need?


Edit...
Pyro, thanks for advice on monitor, wide screen seems kinda...weird to me, when you play a game that has a set resolution what does it just show black on the side? or does part of the screen cut off? (Sorry for newb question ><).

I can't really decide between 939 and AM2, I don't have any real plans to upgrade, mainly because by the time I feel like upgradeing I usualy just get a whole new computer becuase everything is outdated. So I'm thinking 939 will be more of what I want, but I just want to see if anyone else has anything to say about that subject.
June 9, 2006 5:50:15 AM

i'm not much on widescreen, but the Hyundai under it is the one i have and it has a really nice picture on it, no dead pixels or anything. Yeah, if u can, and if other people post, the 939 is probably the way to go, you can get a nice proc, with a cheaper mobo and the ram won't kill ur budget ~120-140
June 9, 2006 8:18:31 AM

Athlon X2 3800+ Skt 939 $297
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

ABIT KN8 SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD $100.39
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

OCZ EL Platinum Revision 2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory $133.35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

THERMALTAKE TR2 500W Power Supply ATX12V V2.0 $88.68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

RAIDMAX Astro ATX-268WSP Silver 0.7mm Japanese SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $32.38
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

NEC Silver 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE 16X DVD±R DVD Burner $36.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

eVGA 256-P2-N553-AX Geforce 7600GT CO 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card $155.45 after 20 mail in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

SAMSUNG Beige 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model SFD321B/LEB $11.45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Tyris T901DB Black 19" 8ms DVI LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 500:1 0.294mm Pixel Pitch $209.79
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Creative Inspire 290 5 W 2.0 Speaker $ 35.69
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1683...

EPSON Stylus CX3810 C11C612001 $60.95 after 30 mail in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

2 Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JS 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb $175.44
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Total with shipping and rebates = 1337.56
June 9, 2006 2:54:19 PM

Off-brand motherboard seems a bit, unorthadox, as far as I understand Asus and DFI are the big motherboard brands, so why this?

Oh, and I was kinda liking the wide screen monitor, but can anyone tell me the details on what widescreen monitors do? on non-widescreen resolutions mainly.

And with that ram where you saying I should go with 4x512, becuase I want 2 meg, I often have photoshop and flash open at the same time, and that can be vary demanding on the ram.



And again, I really want a sound card with component out, where can I get one of these, I can't find the spec anywhere on the sound cards but I've seen them before.
June 9, 2006 3:30:12 PM

Quote:
What about this for the ram?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231073

The numbers all seem the same, and it's in stock, and I really need to order this within next day or two (right now I have a laptop that I have to return so ><). And look how cool that one looks, with the shiney blue =P.

I got the 74gig HD now, thought I had it the first time guess I just misclicked.

I didn't realize that was a cheap printer ><, I guess I could pick one up at the store, I figured it would be cheaper online, and also I could get it with rest of the stuff. Do you have any suggestions on printers on newegg?

The sound card I want becuase I want to be able to plug the computer into my stereo, I have surround sound and I'd like to be able to play games on that without having to buy a surround sound speaker set just for the computer. If the onboard has component out then that's fine but I don't see anything on it that indicates that it does. And if I can't get component out I'm getting much better speakers then those crappy ones I picked out.

And last thing, What cooling and wires do I need?


Edit...
Pyro, thanks for advice on monitor, wide screen seems kinda...weird to me, when you play a game that has a set resolution what does it just show black on the side? or does part of the screen cut off? (Sorry for newb question ><).

I can't really decide between 939 and AM2, I don't have any real plans to upgrade, mainly because by the time I feel like upgradeing I usualy just get a whole new computer becuase everything is outdated. So I'm thinking 939 will be more of what I want, but I just want to see if anyone else has anything to say about that subject.



The memory you picked is just fine. The only reason I would strongly suggest AM2 for you what you want to do with your machine. Photoshop and Maya will benefit dramatically from a quad core CPU when they are available, and AM2 will allow you to drop one of those right in without a new motherboard or new RAM. Thats why for you at least AM2 makes a lot of sense. Sure S939 might be a bit cheaper, but in the long run where time is money, quad core when out early-mid 07 will save you MONEY in the long run.
June 9, 2006 3:38:10 PM

Quote:
What about this for the ram?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231073

The numbers all seem the same, and it's in stock, and I really need to order this within next day or two (right now I have a laptop that I have to return so ><). And look how cool that one looks, with the shiney blue =P.

I got the 74gig HD now, thought I had it the first time guess I just misclicked.

I didn't realize that was a cheap printer ><, I guess I could pick one up at the store, I figured it would be cheaper online, and also I could get it with rest of the stuff. Do you have any suggestions on printers on newegg?

The sound card I want becuase I want to be able to plug the computer into my stereo, I have surround sound and I'd like to be able to play games on that without having to buy a surround sound speaker set just for the computer. If the onboard has component out then that's fine but I don't see anything on it that indicates that it does. And if I can't get component out I'm getting much better speakers then those crappy ones I picked out.

And last thing, What cooling and wires do I need?


Edit...
Pyro, thanks for advice on monitor, wide screen seems kinda...weird to me, when you play a game that has a set resolution what does it just show black on the side? or does part of the screen cut off? (Sorry for newb question ><).

I can't really decide between 939 and AM2, I don't have any real plans to upgrade, mainly because by the time I feel like upgradeing I usualy just get a whole new computer becuase everything is outdated. So I'm thinking 939 will be more of what I want, but I just want to see if anyone else has anything to say about that subject.



The memory you picked is just fine. The only reason I would strongly suggest AM2 for you what you want to do with your machine. Photoshop and Maya will benefit dramatically from a quad core CPU when they are available, and AM2 will allow you to drop one of those right in without a new motherboard or new RAM. Thats why for you at least AM2 makes a lot of sense. Sure S939 might be a bit cheaper, but in the long run where time is money, quad core when out early-mid 07 will save you MONEY in the long run.

Well the only thing is that the computer I used to have was a 1.13 athlon that ran photoshop fine (sure some stuff was a bit slow, but never bang my head on the desk slow), so I figured a 2.0 dual core will be perfectly fine.

Maya on the other hand bearly runs on that computer, but again I don't use maya with any kind of seriousness, and don't plan on using it with any kind of seriousness, so as long as it runs then I'm happy.

Also, I don't usualy upgrade, I usualy just buy a new comp when I run into stuff that just dosen't run on my comp. So I'm very doubtfull I will upgrade when quad core comes out becuase photoshop should be running perfectly fine.
June 9, 2006 3:53:05 PM

Sry bout that, i clicked on the wrong ram link,

Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 131.98

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Patriot is a good brand, i've been using them alot and i haven't had any problems with them.

Also, ABIT isn't an unknown brand, and lots of people i know who do Photoshop and Premiere say that DFI is more of a gamers board. Most of the ones that people know are Gigabyte, Asus, ABIT, MSI, snd some others. ABIT is still a high quality board that performs really well.

http://www.abit-usa.com/
June 9, 2006 4:02:25 PM

Quote:
Sry bout that, i clicked on the wrong ram link,

Patriot 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 131.98

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Patriot is a good brand, i've been using them alot and i haven't had any problems with them.

Also, ABIT isn't an unknown brand, and lots of people i know who do Photoshop and Premiere say that DFI is more of a gamers board. Most of the ones that people know are Gigabyte, Asus, ABIT, MSI, snd some others. ABIT is still a high quality board that performs really well.

http://www.abit-usa.com/



I think I'm going to order your build then soon, AM2 is tempting, but I just doubt I will want to upgrade before I want to just get a whole new system. I think you also got the link to the motherboard wrong just becuase the price dosen't match up, this board is recomended with the case (I doubt that means much but it looked like a good deal).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131540

Also please tell me what sound card, connection wires, and cooling I need, after I get those I think I am going t ogo ahead and order.



edit...
I still can't decide between these two monitors
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824163130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824224008

And does this power supply support this video card, the minimum on the video card is 400 watts, and the power supply only has 500 watts, that dosen't seem like it's leaving much room for my other stuff to run.
June 9, 2006 5:51:33 PM

The link is the right one, i just missed a number, the price for the ABIT is 100.69 with shipping. As for a sound card, you wanna get a creative labs, if you really wanted an XF-i, you could, but i hear they're having driver issues, i would go with a really nice Audigy 2. As for the monitor, go for the Tyris, you'll have better resolution on the regular monitor and a bigger space, the widescreen cuts down on size. The power supply will hold, all the recommended specs aren't always necessary..

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

This is always a good way to estimate.

For the cabling, buy the tie wraps or something because things tend to get out of control, make sure you have good airflow in your case, you might want to buy a couple 80's or 120's (have u picked out a case) and for the proc, you can get a Zalman 7000B if you wanted to, but the stock HS should last if you don't over clock anything
June 9, 2006 8:18:04 PM

This is what I have, and I plan to order in a few hours so I've pretty much decided on most the stuff.

Just making sure I didn't miss anything, is all this stuff compatable? And do I have all the conections I need (Thought I would have to buy some wires)? Do I have the rigth cooling? (I just picked 2 80mm fans and 1 120mm fan at random, I didn't see anything on the case that implied what I need for cooling).

I still never found a sound card, none of the ones I saw had component output so I could plug it up to my stereo, if anyone knows a sound card that does I would still like to add it in.

Price: $1,720 (not including rebates and shipping)
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131540
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103562
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220040
Main Hard Drive: 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822144160
Speedy Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822144417
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814130283
Floppy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16821103203
DVD Burner: http://www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827129001
DVD Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827101134
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811200025
Cooling: 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835189005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835200008
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817153028
Wire Covers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16812999031
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824224008
Keyboard/Mouse:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16823205011
Speakers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16836116011
Printer: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16828103183
June 9, 2006 8:36:20 PM

Cool, i think i might've mentioned this earlier but i'm gonna say it again, unless your planning on copying things from one cd to another, its not worth getting a DVD rom and a DVD rw
June 9, 2006 9:12:00 PM

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Cool, i think i might've mentioned this earlier but i'm gonna say it again, unless your planning on copying things from one cd to another, its not worth getting a DVD rom and a DVD rw


That's my starcraft drive :p 

Thanks for helping, hopefully I got everything cause I'm about to order ^^.


Uhmmm woops, an operating system would be tech. (About to order without one, I'd be so pissed if this whole thing came and I had to wait 3 more days to play it).
June 9, 2006 9:55:13 PM

Wow I see A LOT of bad advice here.
First of all, definately dont go socket 939. You can get a AM2 system for the same price or cheaper and it will run the future processors, socket 939 wont.
Also no matter what amd cpu you get, definately get the DDR2-800, not 667 because the new 65nm X2's will utilize DDR2-800 when they come out. Also a 7600GT is hardly any more than a 6800XT and well worth the extra cache.
The dual cores are expensive still. Maybe think about doing what I did, I bought a cheaper Sempron64 with DDR2-800 and plan to upgrade to a 65nm X2 down the road. My AM2 Sempron64 3600+ in 3dmark05 is scoring a higher cpu score with a 300mhz overclock than a Athlon64 3700+ socket 939. Also the A64 3800+ is down to like $140. You cant beat that.
June 9, 2006 10:34:45 PM

I don't want to get a sempron now and upgrade latter, I have a bunch of flash work I need to do over the summer so ><.

We'll You seem to know what your talking about, but I'm still not sure, again I don't usualy upgrade, but maybe with AM2 I will be able to upgrade without my olderstuff being outdated. So here is what I have for choices, I'm willing to pay the extra 140 for AM2, but I don't really want to if it's not needed, what I care about the most though is right now which of these are going to be faster, or will they be about the same?

AM2 Motherboard - $147
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131013
939 Motherboard - $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131540
AM2 Processor - $369
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103747
939 Processor - $297
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819103562
AM2 Ram - $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231073
939 Ram - $127
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220040
June 9, 2006 11:25:36 PM

Ask anyone out there if its worth it, if you have work to do over the summer stick with the 939, that guy whos telling you this is bad advice doesn't know the difference between good advice and a doghnut. The Sockte 939 X2's are great, top of the line Athlon 64 which will last a long time, and right now the timings on the DDR2 800's make them a lot slower than the DDR 400's. By the time you need to upgrade, you'll still have to shell out enough money to make you angry. The system you put together should last a long time.Also, look at the first review on the DDR2 ram that you picked out
June 10, 2006 12:08:18 AM

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Wow I see A LOT of bad advice here.
First of all, definately dont go socket 939. You can get a AM2 system for the same price or cheaper and it will run the future processors, socket 939 wont.
Also no matter what amd cpu you get, definately get the DDR2-800, not 667 because the new 65nm X2's will utilize DDR2-800 when they come out. Also a 7600GT is hardly any more than a 6800XT and well worth the extra cache.
The dual cores are expensive still. Maybe think about doing what I did, I bought a cheaper Sempron64 with DDR2-800 and plan to upgrade to a 65nm X2 down the road. My AM2 Sempron64 3600+ in 3dmark05 is scoring a higher cpu score with a 300mhz overclock than a Athlon64 3700+ socket 939. Also the A64 3800+ is down to like $140. You cant beat that.


I agree with you on this one MrsD. I think he is going S939 though.
June 10, 2006 12:30:17 AM

Fine, if everyone thinks i'm stupid, how aobut u just do a 939 with an Asrock mobo so u can upgrade later
!