Replacement for 9800Pro

[ddotson9]

Help, my Radeon 9800Pro is on its last leg and I need to replace it. I want to spend as little as possible, but I don't want to go backwards in quality. I am looking for something that is reasonably priced (preferably under $200) that will give me at least a little upgrade.

I'm currently running a AMD 64 3400+ with 2GB of Ram. I don't do a ton of gaming, but I would like decent gaming ability. The card is mostly used for video editing and dvd playback, etc.

If anybody has any advice, I'd greatly appreciate it, I'm going crazy trying to figure this out.

Thanks!

 

[firepyro555]

your limited with price and by the AGP requirement on the mobo. I would say an X1600Pro becuase the 7600GS aren't out for AGP yet, but you could look (if u wanted to) on Ebay, and look for a 6800GT or go for the X800/X850's on Newegg

 

[prozac26]

X800XL might be found for under $200. X800GTO and 6800GS are also good cards.

 

[ddotson9]

Thanks for the advice.

I can't find an X800XL for AGP on newegg, do they exist? Also, I think that both the X800GTO and X850 are in my price range, is there a big difference between them (and is there much of a difference between the X850XL and X850Pro)?

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

[WhatUsername]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102609


I think i have outdone myself this time.

 

[WhatUsername]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102609


I think i have outdone myself this time.

Almost forgot to mention it unlocks to an x800xl, not every card will unlock but u never know you might get lucky and for that price you can't go wrong =]

 

[dmantech]

get a x800XL its one of the best agp cards! That is the card I upgraded coming from the 9800pro.

 

[FatFunkey]

yea X800XL do not get a X1600Pro its basicly a 9800Pro with SM 3.0.....

personaly thought however i suggest saving and doing a whole system upgrade to PCI-E and all that fluff, however if you cant go with the X800XL


...i personally am fine with my 9800Pro so what if HL2-Episode 2 runs 30Fps ....its got HDR on full and 2x/4x Filtering..im not complaining fro a card thats 3 years old ^_^

 

[ddotson9]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102609


I think i have outdone myself this time.

Almost forgot to mention it unlocks to an x800xl, not every card will unlock but u never know you might get lucky and for that price you can't go wrong =]

Great Find, I just ordered it! Thanks...how difficult is it to unlock it in to an X800XL? I know you have to flash the Bios, but I'm a little worried about screwing up all my configurations. Do I gain quite a bit more by making it an XL?

Thanks again!

 

[ddotson9]

...i personally am fine with my 9800Pro so what if HL2-Episode 2 runs 30Fps ....its got HDR on full and 2x/4x Filtering..im not complaining fro a card thats 3 years old ^_^

Yeah, I'm bummed that mine is dying, its been a GREAT card!

 

[ddotson9]

Sorry to keep asking question, but is the x800GTO (possibly x800xl) going to be a pretty decent upgrade to the 9800Pro or is it pretty similar in performance?

Thanks again for all the help guys, I really appreciate it!

 

[angry_ducky]

Sorry to keep asking question, but is the x800GTO (possibly x800xl) going to be a pretty decent upgrade to the 9800Pro or is it pretty similar in performance?

Thanks again for all the help guys, I really appreciate it!

The X800GTO will blow away the 9800Pro in terms of performance, especially if you overclock/unlock it.

 

[raven_87]

I'm assuming we forgot to mention the 6800GS?

Most X800GTO's are R430, and wont unlock without producing checkboards.
So good luck if you plan on it.

But my path would have been with the GS as a solid price/preformance card.

 

[WhatUsername]

I'm assuming we forgot to mention the 6800GS?

Most X800GTO's are R430, and wont unlock without producing checkboards.
So good luck if you plan on it.

But my path would have been with the GS as a solid price/preformance card.

Only a noob would flash without checking witch core he got.......Plus if the card does unlock it will spank the 6800gs in preformance. Lastly newegg doesn't stock the 6800gs anymore. Oh and i almost forgot 80% of 6800gs cards only have opengl 1.5.

 

[raven_87]

Yes, becuase 2.0 on a X800GTO will make a helluva lot of preformance difference... :?: :lol:

Anywhosel, its not like were limited to newegg here. I'm sure you could find a a deal on a 6800GS somewhere.

One more thing. I could almost guarantee that GS would flash 16x1 5vp unless the pipes were previously damaged, in which you could (technically) claimed an RMA.

I"m just looking into his best interests here. I see NV40, which doesnt differ from from the GT to GS to the 6800U. Only the pipes have been bitmasked. So when that GS would unlock, a voltmod and maybe some
cooling + 6800UE BIOS = pretty damn fine I'd say.

If they both unlock, nothing will "crush" b/c preformance would level off about the same. Check some other threads on how far a X800GTO will clock once unlocked. The results were'nt that impressive to say the least.
So sure, once you get your extra pipes you can cheer, but if you can raise your frequencies that much, it IMHO wouldnt be worth it.

I'm not bashing his decision, I'm simply tossing in some diversity, which is exactly what a forum is all about

 

[WhatUsername]

Yes, becuase 2.0 on a X800GTO will make a helluva lot of preformance difference... :?: :lol:

Anywhosel, its not like were limited to newegg here. I'm sure you could find a a deal on a 6800GS somewhere.

One more thing. I could almost guarantee that GS would flash 16x1 5vp unless the pipes were previously damaged, in which you could (technically) claimed an RMA.

I"m just looking into his best interests here. I see NV40, which doesnt differ from from the GT to GS to the 6800U. Only the pipes have been bitmasked. So when that GS would unlock, a voltmod and maybe some
cooling + 6800UE BIOS = pretty damn fine I'd say.

If they both unlock, nothing will "crush" b/c preformance would level off about the same. Check some other threads on how far a X800GTO will clock once unlocked. The results were'nt that impressive to say the least.
So sure, once you get your extra pipes you can cheer, but if you can raise your frequencies that much, it IMHO wouldnt be worth it.

I'm not bashing his decision, I'm simply tossing in some diversity, which is exactly what a forum is all about

lol dude you don't want open gl 2.0 for preformance incrase it's for image quality....and dude don't be an ass nothing is guaranteed, especially 16 pipes on a 6800gs. People were getting 16 pipes only because nvidia had to clear backstock with the nv40 chips....there a little past that stage right now.. i couldn't find a 6800gs for less than $190..Correct me on that if you can. Lastly what do you think an unlockable 6800gs is??? it's a backstock nv40...and by backstock i mean i didn't make the cut and was tossed in a pile...not really prime overclocking material.

I'm not trying to sound like an ass and i agree with you 100% Diversity and choice is good as far as computers and this forum go.

 

[raven_87]

Well, considering these cards are what I would deem midranged, this would
dictact that most of the games are played near and around 1024x768 or 1280x1024 so the difference in IQ between the two cards simply becuase of the OGL extension would be extemely minimum.

As for the backorders...very true. However the only reason NV (and friends) did this is becuase the 7xxx series came pouncing along, and ATI was preparing to ready some (at the time looked promising) mirdanged cards. So the 6800GS was bitmasked to contend in that arena. Not just a toss out.

There's no stage to be passed...NV40 IS NV40. Many of the results I've seen on a 6800GS are nothing to be shoo'd off. --yes they are overclocking material. Its quite impressive what they can do with a little budget. The man said below $200, and $190 is below that line, making it an option.

I also realize your not trying to sound like an ass, neither am I.
Glad we can agree about the diversity part though.

 

[Primitivus]

I'm too late joining the discussion it seems but I saw this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102017
and I think it's better than a X800GTO

 

[Primitivus]

On second thought... I'm not so sure. Perhaps they're quite similar and the price difference isn't worth it. Anyway, the GTO that you ordered is definitely an improvement over the 9800 so it IS a good buy. Enjoy!

 

[cleeve]

The 850 PRO is much better than an X800 GTO stock, and can even keep up with a 16-pipe X800 XL when overclocked because the core is so overclock-friendly.

Still, wouldn't avise paying much over $200 for one tho.

 

[Anoobis]

I'm assuming we forgot to mention the 6800GS?

Most X800GTO's are R430, and wont unlock without producing checkboards.
So good luck if you plan on it.

But my path would have been with the GS as a solid price/preformance card.

Only a noob would flash without checking witch core he got.......Plus if the card does unlock it will spank the 6800gs in preformance. Lastly newegg doesn't stock the 6800gs anymore. Oh and i almost forgot 80% of 6800gs cards only have opengl 1.5.
I would highly recommend that you personally PM ddotson9 and explain all the intricacies of flashing and unlocking his shiny new X800GTO before he turns it into an expensive paperweight.

 

[sweatlaserxp]

I don't know if anyone has seen this, . You can't really beat that for $139, of course, you gotta have PCIe.

 

[Scougs]

Most X800GTO's are R430, and wont unlock without producing checkboards.
So good luck if you plan on it.

I beg to differ with you. I have an R430 Sapphire AGP X800GTO and it unlocked to 16 pipes no problem. I have helped numerous other people unlock this card as well. Not a single attempt that I an aware of has been unsucessful.

If anyone wants help unlocking one I'll can guide you.

 

[falsterbo]

Why buy the old Ati cards like X800 GTO, when you can buy a new one!!! X1800GTO has a great price.

 

[xmokshax]

Why buy the old Ati cards like X800 GTO, when you can buy a new one!!! X1800GTO has a great price.

presumably, if the OP is upgrading from a 9800pro (as i currently am), he's got an AGP MB that he doesn't necessarily want to replace just yet. also, yes the x1800GTOs are priced well, but when you consider the Sapphire x1800XT that was recently on sale for $220 after MIR on newegg, the x1800GTOs hovering just under $200 don't look nearly as appealing.